if anyone has posted this vid, then I apologize for reposting this, but I wanted some input from our Mates from Down Under. This is what I call a WTF moment

Fair play to Phil Jones for sticking his head in there, not many would have had the balls or quick thinking to do it.

 

Almost JT-esque.

if anyone has posted this vid, then I apologize for reposting this, but I wanted some input from our Mates from Down Under. This is what I call a WTF moment

 

This is why you NEVER get onto a podium drunk. Jokes aside, looking at how he landed on his head literally, it's quite fortunate that he was fine.

if anyone has posted this vid, then I apologize for reposting this, but I wanted some input from our Mates from Down Under. This is what I call a WTF moment

If anyone was doubting Stevie G's worldwide influence....

If anyone was doubting Stevie G's worldwide influence....

 

but in this case, this guy didn't slip - he literally fell off the stage

So I'm seeing a lot of people saying Nigel Pearson should be considered a candidate for Manager of the Season because of Leicester's last minute escape from relegation, perhaps the best relegation escape ever. 

 

See this is the sort of thing that annoys me, it's the short term mindset of picking these awards. Leicester got 19 points from a possible 87 in their first 29 games I believe that's awful. 

 

Put it this way, Had Leicester started the season with 20 points from their opening 10 games but then fell away spectacularly you wouldn't be considering Pearson because his side of shown no sense of consistency with their performances. 

 

A manager like Garry Monk I can understand more because he's consistently had Swansea playing well to the point where they've now finished with their highest ever points tally. 

 

But I'll still say Mourinho should win it. He's been the most consistent manager this year, there has been no point in the season where the teams results have declined, to have Chelsea top from August 30th to the end of the season is the definition of consistency, he's done his job better than anyone else in the league this season and not just been a flash in the pan results wise. 

if anyone has posted this vid, then I apologize for reposting this, but I wanted some input from our Mates from Down Under. This is what I call a WTF moment

 

 

Loved  Khalfallah's reaction, trying not to laugh.

So I'm seeing a lot of people saying Nigel Pearson should be considered a candidate for Manager of the Season because of Leicester's last minute escape from relegation, perhaps the best relegation escape ever.

See this is the sort of thing that annoys me, it's the short term mindset of picking these awards. Leicester got 19 points from a possible 87 in their first 29 games I believe that's awful.

Put it this way, Had Leicester started the season with 20 points from their opening 10 games but then fell away spectacularly you wouldn't be considering Pearson because his side of shown no sense of consistency with their performances.

A manager like Garry Monk I can understand more because he's consistently had Swansea playing well to the point where they've now finished with their highest ever points tally.

But I'll still say Mourinho should win it. He's been the most consistent manager this year, there has been no point in the season where the teams results have declined, to have Chelsea top from August 30th to the end of the season is the definition of consistency, he's done his job better than anyone else in the league this season and not just been a flash in the pan results wise.

He's kept a side who should statistically have been relegated in the league. That's ultimately what he's being judged on and there will be many managers who think he's fine remarkably well.

Like the monthly award, it comes down to surpassing expectations and some will go with him and others will go with Jose. I get what you're saying about people looking just at what he's done in the last couple of months, but some will just consider the end result.

Last year Pulis won it for a more spectacular escape from relegation.

He's kept a side who should statistically have been relegated in the league. That's ultimately what he's being judged on and there will be many managers who think he's fine remarkably well.

Like the monthly award, it comes down to surpassing expectations and some will go with him and others will go with Jose. I get what you're saying about people looking just at what he's done in the last couple of months, but some will just consider the end result.

Last year Pulis won it for a more spectacular escape from relegation.

 

Difference being Pulis came in and took over from Warnock and steadied a sinking ship. 

 

Pearson steadied his own sinking ship. 

 

It comes back to what I've said before with this voting mindset, apparently if you're sh*t and stop managing to be sh*t, that's worthy of a pat on the back. 

 

I'm not saying that Pearson hasn't done well to avoid relegation but I certainly don't think it;s a manager of the year achievement. 

Difference being Pulis came in and took over from Warnock and steadied a sinking ship.

Pearson steadied his own sinking ship.

It comes back to what I've said before with this voting mindset, apparently if you're sh*t and stop managing to be sh*t, that's worthy of a pat on the back.

I'm not saying that Pearson hasn't done well to avoid relegation but I certainly don't think it;s a manager of the year achievement.

It's relative success. Is it a greater achievement for Chelsea to win this league, or for Leicester to not finish bottom 3.

It's relative success. Is it a greater achievement for Chelsea to win this league, or for Leicester to not finish bottom 3.

 

It's not just purely the end result, it's how you got to that result though. 

 

Pearson has, in my opinion, only done a good job for the last couple of months of the season... Not the whole year. 

 

Mourinho, despite maybe not being spectacular the whole way, has consistently delivered on his objective more than any other manager. 

 

Those who I feel have a claim to MotY aside from Jose are Garry Monk and Ronald Koeman. 

It's not just purely the end result, it's how you got to that result though.

Pearson has, in my opinion, only done a good job for the last couple of months of the season... Not the whole year.

Mourinho, despite maybe not being spectacular the whole way, has consistently delivered on his objective more than any other manager.

Those who I feel have a claim to MotY aside from Jose are Garry Monk and Ronald Koeman.

I think maybe that measure goes against Jose for some. He's got there being pragmatic rather than 'beautiful'which we all know rubs some people up the wrong way.

I think Pearson actually benefits from a measure that is based on 'by any means necessary'. It's a massively subjective award which is stating the obvious.

by any means necessary is right...he's been much more of a dick than Jose ever has been perceived to be...telling his own fan to die, bullying oppo players and journos...well done for keeping leicester up but doesn't deserve more than a pat on the back...you never get the impression from him that much thought has gone into it...they got a bit of momentum going just when they needed it and rode that wave till the end...if award doesn't go to jose, then Koeman or Monk for me

Strange that the 'relative success' argument never came into the discussion whenever Fergie won the league.

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More from Walcott and his current orbit of planet deluded...having said arsenal were best team in Europe a few weeks ago, now said this about the title race in evening standard today:

“There was an opportunity in the season when we were getting close to Chelsea and people were taking about us competing but I sensed throughout the dressing room that we were never quite up there with Chelsea."

Appreciate honesty of second half of that sentence, but when did arsenal really ever get 'close'? Trailed all season and best they got was within seven points having played a game more and that was with just a handful of matches too...I never felt arsenal were a threat, even when we were going through a dodgy patch

Strange that the 'relative success' argument never came into the discussion whenever Fergie won the league.

No he didn't.

Regarding my team (United), we still need a good few players.

 

Fellaini is nothing more than a squad player.  De Gea is off to join the circus.  Our defenders are pretty bad although I do have a soft spot for Smalling.

 

We're desperate for a pacey striker.  A right back.  And a holding/controller midfielder.

 

Next season, I'd like our first 11 to look like this:

 

 

 

I don't particulary want Lloris but I feel he would be attainable and be able to play the 'sweeper keeper' that Van Gaal demands.  Lacazette is just my Football Manager 'hopeful' signing - he could go anywhere.

Regarding my team (United), we still need a good few players.

Fellaini is nothing more than a squad player. De Gea is off to join the circus. Our defenders are pretty bad although I do have a soft spot for Smalling.

We're desperate for a pacey striker. A right back. And a holding/controller midfielder.

Next season, I'd like our first 11 to look like this:

I don't particulary want Lloris but I feel he would be attainable and be able to play the 'sweeper keeper' that Van Gaal demands. Lacazette is just my Football Manager 'hopeful' signing - he could go anywhere.

According to that, you need a whole new spine.

My view is that when united were at the top, they had winners throughout the team. They had men of character. That team you've got there is woefully lacking in them.

I also don't get persevering with Smalling. He's another Cleverley in my opinion and that's not united standard.

More from Walcott and his current orbit of planet deluded...having said arsenal were best team in Europe a few weeks ago, now said this about the title race in evening standard today:

“There was an opportunity in the season when we were getting close to Chelsea and people were taking about us competing but I sensed throughout the dressing room that we were never quite up there with Chelsea."

Appreciate honesty of second half of that sentence, but when did arsenal really ever get 'close'? Trailed all season and best they got was within seven points having played a game more and that was with just a handful of matches too...I never felt arsenal were a threat, even when we were going through a dodgy patch

Plus it was only a few weeks ago that he said they were challenging for the title.

Six new players could need some bedding in time.

 

Regarding Manager of the Year, I don't think Pearson should be anywhere near it. Jose, Garry Monk and Ronald Koeman should be candidates, even Mark Hughes and Alan Pardew above Pearson.

Regarding my team (United), we still need a good few players.

Fellaini is nothing more than a squad player. De Gea is off to join the circus. Our defenders are pretty bad although I do have a soft spot for Smalling.

We're desperate for a pacey striker. A right back. And a holding/controller midfielder.

Next season, I'd like our first 11 to look like this:

I don't particulary want Lloris but I feel he would be attainable and be able to play the 'sweeper keeper' that Van Gaal demands. Lacazette is just my Football Manager 'hopeful' signing - he could go anywhere.

No Rooney? He's your best player

According to that, you need a whole new spine.

My view is that when united were at the top, they had winners throughout the team. They had men of character. That team you've got there is woefully lacking in them.

I also don't get persevering with Smalling. He's another Cleverley in my opinion and that's not united standard.

 

We DO still need a new spine though, that was my point.

 

In an ideal world we'll sign two centre backs and get rid of Evans (he's gone anyway according to a few people I know) and Jones.

 

But Smalling is the best out of a bad bunch.  He'll be a good squad player long term - Rojo is still an unknown quantity in this league although he hasn't impressed me so far.

 

We'll be ok in the long term because we're basically going to throw money at the problem and we have a manager who's been there and got the t-shirt.

 

It all hinges on what players we sign and whether they will fit into the system.  We won't win the title next season, far too soon.  But being in the Champions League again is important - this will sound arrogant, probably because it is - but we're such a massive club now, we'll only push on.

No he didn't.

 

I stand corrected. George Burley won it once. Fergie won it on 11/12 occasions though. The most egregious was giving it to Redknapp for coming 4th when Ancelotti won the Double in his first season.

No Rooney? He's your best player

Carrick is our best player but is getting on now.  Rooney has been average for years.

I stand corrected. George Burley won it once. Fergie won it on 11/12 occasions though. The most egregious was giving it to Redknapp for coming 4th when Ancelotti won the Double in his first season.

Neither Mancini or Pellegrino won it either.

My view is that there's an interesting discussion to be had on each award. The same goes for the monthly ones where you could go through each month and analyse who won it and why. Footballoholic actually took the time to do that when people were bemoaning Jose not winning any monthly awards.

It got far less replies than those that just said it was unfair because he won the league (or words to that effect).