People who don't watch Turan, don't want him.

He will be phenomenal in the Premier League.

His stats are very simillar to Willians. Good workrate and pass completion, but low output (2 goals, 4 assists, 34 chances created). I was suprised to see that he didn't do that many take ons either, Willian actually has a higher number.

Agree with your sentiment. I think this game against Juve describes why we might be interested:

https://youtu.be/_DzQyl_sxBg

For me our issue this season was depth notably when Fab or Oscar struggled. When that happened Willian stepped to the fore in big games. We couldnt rely on Cuadrado to do the same. Turan is a terrier, he chases every ball, presses, holds the ball up and oddly plays best in the big games. See his matches against us in the CL and Super Cup if you don't believe me.

If he is cheapish he'll be a very good signing. He is Mourinho to the core. But I'd imagine this will only happen if Cuadrado heads off.

Rumours were gathering pace that Cuadrado could be off to Inter on loan. So Turan could very well be his replacement.

CFC_RFC_TID, that's nothing to do with it. He was a year younger than Turan is now.

 

absolutely is everything to do with it. 

 

i do not want someone at that age (and pertinently, at that price whilst at that age), unless they significantly improve the squad, as fabregas did. 

 

turan is not of the quality of fabregas. turan is turan. turan will be a squad filler, and to me, a squad filler will be one that stifles the growth of our youth options. How is he an upgrade on what we already have, and why, after years of working hard to secure good, young, talented players from all corners of the globe, are we resorting to square pegs in round holes with players valued at over £20m quid who are at, or past, their peak? 

 

Fabregas signed for us when he had just gone 27. fabregas is a player that we needed in that position, and as a known assist god, took our team to another level. 

 

if turan were a  player of similar quality who would elevate our team and our overall quality, i wouldnt have any objection to the signing, so i reiterate that it does have EVERYTHING to do with it. 

 

at 28 when a number of posters on here will have seen him play a handful of times, i struggle to see the logic with such signings who will have absolutely no residual sell on value. 

 

Pointless IMO. 

Edited June 30, 201511 yr by CFC_RFC_TID!

His goal return isn't that great for an attacking midfielder.

Less than 15 in 120 odd games.

His goal return isn't that great for an attacking midfielder.

Less than 15 in 120 odd games.

 

bang average stats. Where is he going to play? dont understand throwing this kind of money at someone who is 28 when they arent going to be a certain starter. the money tossed towards fiorentina for cuadrado was eye watering when you consider he spent the majority of his time on the bench. Why are we going down this route for squad fillers? doesnt our academy have any players that can be blooded instead of purchasing guys like this? 

 

some obviously disagree with me, fair dos, but i just cant get my head around this type of signing, its insane. 

Great player - would be a cracking signing and would improve us without question. He'd be a first XI player, the fans would adore him and would fit in brilliantly

I thought he was a central midfielder but it's saying he is more of an attacking one.

Seen him enough if the past few seasons to know he's a good player but if he's seen as an attacking one then he's pretty ineffective in that area is he not?

I think it's a easy choice when you look at it like this:

 

Turan: 28 1/2 year old for £29mil (latest rumoured price)

 

or

 

Sterling: 20 1/2 year old homegrown for £40mil-£50mil, who have twice the creative numbers Turan have.

 

In 5 years Sterling will be worth the same, while the money spent on Turan will be lost.

 

I think the £29m figure is just lazy journalism, it's his rumoured buyout fee, but I hope we're not that stupid to pay anywhere close to that. Sterling for reasons you mentioned would be a good buy, but I wonder if Jose likes the kid enough to spend on him such a large chunk of our transfer budget.

 

Turan seems to be the Mourinho kind of a player: tough hardworking and skillful enough to hold his own in a top club. I believe he'd definitely improve us and will take to the league much easier than the likes of Salah or Cuadrado.

Take your point CFC_RFC_TID!. My view is that squad filler is the key for us. We have a very good first 11. But beyond that we struggled. That meant we played that 11 all the time, which had consequences. Fabregas, Oscar, Costa got injured or faded. We suffered as a result.

For us to compete for the CL and PL titles we need more depth. Turan is that player. He has experience at the highest level that Traore or Bamford or Solanke dont have. When you notice Oscar is tiring after 70 minute in a big game you need that. I think it's the same reason we are considering Falcao and Song. There will be moments for youth but in the moment in the big game you need someone who you can depend on. Turan is that guy.

Edited June 30, 201511 yr by Spiller86

Take your point CFC_RFC_TID!. My view is that squad filler is the key for us. We have a very good first 11. But beyond that we struggled. That meant we played that 11 all the time, which had consequences. Fabregas, Oscar, Costa got injured or faded. We suffered as a result.

For us to compete for the CL and PL titles we need more depth. Turan is that player. He has experience at the highest level that Traore or Bamford or Solanke dont have. When you notice Oscar is tiring after 70 minute in a big game you need that. I think it's the same reason we are considering Falcao and Song. There will be moments for youth but in the moment in the big game you need someone who you can depend on. Turan is that guy.

 

yep - i agree that we need depth. i dont have an issue with the player as such, its the fee being quoted for someone that age when there isnt really any longevity in the signing. We are notoriously budget focused these days, i mentioned on another thread that i was lucky enough to be invited to a presentation at chelsea regarding their finances and management of FFP - with chelsea now operating on more limited budgets, I just find it hard to understand shelling out this type of money for someone who, for me, doesnt necessarily slot straight into the team. 

 

I dont know where he would play. who drops out? if willian makes way for him on the right then the raw stats make interesting reading as willian's are markedly better than turan's across a number of key criteria. 

 

Does oscar drop out and willian move central into the 10? 

 

Does Turan play deep and fabregas move up to 10? 

 

I dont get this one at all im afraid. 

 

Edit: just to confirm i agree with the fact we need depth but i cant help but feel we could be looking at better options that would provide us with more cover from a long term perspective, "future proof" if you will. 

Edited June 30, 201511 yr by CFC_RFC_TID!

I'd imagine the fee would be significantly less than £29m I would imagine around £15m and for that price he's a bargain.

Would we be happy with the below this summer?

Begovic

Turan

Falcao

I've read through this thread and I have a very mixed view on this. I've never really watched Turan so I can't really comment on his abilities, but I don't really get why we would spend £30m on someone who appears to be a Willian clone? If Cuadrado is going out on loan and we need someone for the squad then surely we need a player with some craft, trickery, not just another tireless worker like Willian who doesn't provide much attacking spark from the right? The fee worries me a lot too because we'd never recoup anything like that for a 28 year old unless he explodes on the scene, and by all accounts he doesn't seem to be the kind of player who will.

Would we be happy with the below this summer?

Begovic

Turan

Falcao

 

Defiinitely not. We need to be aggressive in this window and not allow the likes of Arsenal to catch up. I think we need 1 'big' signing along 2/3 'squad players.

 

Begovic would be a great place to start. Turan I don't really know much about and Falcao I could live with if Remy stays as the primary back up.

Edited June 30, 201511 yr by Celery1989

I've read through this thread and I have a very mixed view on this. I've never really watched Turan so I can't really comment on his abilities, but I don't really get why we would spend £30m on someone who appears to be a Willian clone? If Cuadrado is going out on loan and we need someone for the squad then surely we need a player with some craft, trickery, not just another tireless worker like Willian who doesn't provide much attacking spark from the right? The fee worries me a lot too because we'd never recoup anything like that for a 28 year old unless he explodes on the scene, and by all accounts he doesn't seem to be the kind of player who will.

Yeah, I doubt he would be a good fit to play on the right hand side given he doesn't score many goals and he doesn't appear a winger type like Hazard on the left.

If that kind of player comes in along with him then that would be ideal but as you say if it's to play on the right hand side it makes little sense to me.

Turan once thew his boot at a lino.

He'll do for me.

For half the buy out clause, yes I would take a player like this who could be called upon when required to play across a number of positions. If we come out of this window with turan, begovic and falcao then I'll be worried.

It is absolute fantasy but if we signed stones, schneiderlin, griezmann and took falcao on loan whilst retaining (and utilising) remy then I'd hand the title to us now.

Just feels like other clubs are stealing a march on us. It's early yes but a full preseason for new players goes a long way to starting the season strongly

I watched turan a few times and I thought he was excellent down the wide right channel. I saw him on TV and was enough impressed that I went to look him up. About the age and suitability for the premier I say nothing, but he looked good last season in Spain.

Just been speaking to an Atletico fan on Twitter.

He said that Arda is an instant upgrade on Oscar however his main weakness is his finishing.

Would not say that is a good summer myself if it ends up as just begovic, turan and falcao.

However if turan replaces oscar, who goes to juve so we end up with pogba and we add John stones to begovic and, if it must be, falcao, then that will be good all around, provided Remy stays.

If we add Greizmann into the mix with Turan, Begovic and Falcao would that be seen as good?

I'd be a lot happier as Greizmann really does cover a few areas we are weak in while Turan would add some steel and power to the midfield.

Falcao should not be seen if Costa and Remy stay fit.

I would pay £30m for his dribbling skills alone.

If we sign Turan, I think that pretty much rules out Griezmann.

 

Turan, Falcao, Begovic, a left back(if Luis leaves) and a centre mid and i think that's a good window.

If we sign Turan, I think that pretty much rules out Griezmann.

Turan, Falcao, Begovic, a left back(if Luis leaves) and a centre mid and i think that's a good window.

How so?

We still need a right sided player who can chip in with goals and assists, Turan doesn't offer this at all.