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John Stones

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Hope we don't come in with a whopping bid. Wouldn't want to pay more than £30-£35m for him. 

I don't think how much we offer matters anymore. This stopped being a negotiation a while ago, if it ever even was one. Everton have taken a "moral" stand and they'd look like total hypocrites if they sold him a few days after the sanctimonious "money can't buy everything" lecture by Martinez. Plus, unlike with Sterling, where the Liverpool media and his manager slowly but surely threw him under the bus and basically drove him away by constantly belittling him and his ambition, Martinez, for all his faults, has done a good job of protecting Stones, or at least trying to. Instead of making Stones the villain, as Rodgers and Liverpool did with Sterling, he's made Chelsea and Mourinho the scapegoats with his "I'm just a good, honest man trying to do my job and take care of my children, but this evil corporation (Chelsea) just won't let us be!" act. I can't stand him, but this is good management and media manipulation, something we're used to from our own manager.

 

Maybe if we'd gone after him earlier, things would've played out further, Stones would've gotten sick of Boberto's act the way Sterling did with Rodgers, the fans would've turned completely against him, thereby pushing him away and we'd have more of a chance, but I think we've left it too late and if the reports of him crying are true, Stones clearly isn't emotionally ready to handle the consequences of being seen as the villain (he's still a kid and I feel for him regardless of his eventual decision).

 

It's not just about business anymore, it's about pride and it takes longer to negotiate a price for pride, as was the case with Sterling, where it took months and months for Liverpool's official narrative to go from "we don't need to sell. We're a HUGE club! Look at us! We are so BIG, yo momma looks at us and says "hmm, I'm actually quite petite compared to how MASSIVE Liverpool Football Club is" to "City are idiots for paying us so much. We don't need him anyway".

 

It also probably doesn't help our case that Stones' agent appears to not be a lunatic. And from a purely practical and unemotional point of view, we haven't given Everton enough time to find a suitable replacement.

For anyone asking aboout recalling Kalas or whatever, youre pissing in the wind.

 

A - loaning club will have paid a loan fee... cant recall

 

B - If Mourinho wanted him he'd not have loaned him out

For anyone asking aboout recalling Kalas or whatever, youre pissing in the wind.

A - loaning club will have paid a loan fee... cant recall

B - If Mourinho wanted him he'd not have loaned him out

C - Recalling him can damage a relationship with another club

Haha f**k off when was the last time you won the league or played in the champions league? Dumb c**t

Indiana? Aren't you late for a rodeo? Go shooting in a cinema or whatever it is you folk do. Football isn't for you.

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Jesus. Christ.

What is in that bloody Mersey?!

You'll see the post I have decided should be kept above this one. This is to show why he's been banned in case other scousers come on and again sound off with their paranoid conspiracy theories. Not every opposition fan who comes on and gives it large is banned, but the above is vile and shows what a nasty, spiteful, evil person he/she is. I've no place for anyone like that in life.

I've deleted pretty much everything else he/she said (it was standard unimaginative WUM stuff) and what our lot responded with, just so it makes sense.

I think this one ain't gonna happen this window. I doubt it will in January either but next Summer will be a battle for him. It's a shame he didn't put the transfer request in weeks ago and that we didn't do bids we knew would be rejected straight away. Think it's just all a little to late.

Just activate Laporte's release clause. He'll cost less than Stones and is a better player. Or Inigo M instead.

ok he's / they're not english, but it's not the end of the world

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Be interesting though just to know what Stones and his agent's next move is...

 

Well his agent should go and sell houses because he can't negotiate sh*t for Stones that's for sure. 

Really took a strong dislike to martinez after all this, surely now any up and coming youth players will think twice about joining everton knowing that if they got a chance to go to a big club everton will veto it

Edit sorry gem I wrote this because I wasn't sure why his insulting comment towards me was still up but I guess I understand.

It was more than insulting.

I'd imagine chain of events along lines of tomorrow jose says window is finished no more signings.

Followed by a possible cb by deadline garay or umtiti

Thanks Droogba I was just shocked he actually said that shooting bs.

Totally unacceptable anytime, but even more so given the recent incident.

Totally unacceptable anytime, but even more so given the recent incident.

Agreed its been getting ridiculous lately seems its every other day at this point, but that's a long discussion to get into. Hope our Blues can get a win this Saturday!

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