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Papy Djilobodji

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Well considering we had Zouma, Terry, Cahill and Ivan to play at CB and only one left back (who is actually a right back) it’s pretty obvious the answer would be Baba wouldn’t it.

Not sure this is so obvious, in recent seasons we have done everything possible play players out of position in defence.

 

Not sure this is so obvious, in recent seasons we have done everything possible play players out of position in defence.

We only have 1 LB( who is a natural RB) in our squad without Baba....it's pretty obvious when applying logic to it.

We had cover for the CB positions so we were obviously going to use baba regardless.

We only have 1 LB( who is a natural RB) in our squad without Baba....it's pretty obvious when applying logic to it.

We had cover for the CB positions so we were obviously going to use baba regardless.

Yes it is when you apply logic.  I'm not suggesting Papy would have got the nod, I'm just saying it wouldn't have surprised me nearly as much as it should have if we started playing another central defender in the LB spot when we had a traditional LB in the squad.

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Djilobodji is criminally underrated as a defender. He's good enough to be the lynchpin of our defence. It was a great buy by Eneramo, but a even greater waste by Mourinho.

Pssst Mourinho wasn't here to ship him out in January.

Clearly there's been more than one high profile person at the club who didn't think he was worth keeping.

Papy Lol 

 

a 2 bob signing, wont feature again in the 1st team , not the qual required to win the prem or CL, period.

However, in all fairness several other members of the current 1 st team squad aren't either 

 

welcome to Mr Conte to sort it all out 

Funny to be lambasted for overhyping africans by the same people that claim Koulibaly isnt a top defender in italy. Honestly cant treat the opinions of such ignorants with any credence.

Funny to be lambasted for overhyping africans by the same people that claim Koulibaly isnt a top defender in italy. Honestly cant treat the opinions of such ignorants with any credence.

 

The only person talking about Koulibaly's ability was you. You were ridiculed because you stated that Papy is better which implies that Papy is better than the CBs in Serie A. But sure, everyone else is an idiot, it's only you who's a helicopter.

Jon it's no fluke it seems to be only you who rates these players.

Most of us, the club, our managers and so on obviously see it differently.

I suppose we are all ignorant though and you clearly know more than everyone else, sounds about right eh?

Jon it's no fluke it seems to be only you who rates these players.

Most of us, the club, our managers and so on obviously see it differently.

I suppose we are all ignorant though and you clearly know more than everyone else, sounds about right eh?

 

Only me? I suggest going to the Werder Bremen forum and seeing how they rate Djilobodji. Or reading what many pundits in France had to say about him.

 

It's not just me.

 

And most of you have no idea about Djilobodji and your basing your assessment on blind faith. Chelsea's handling of Djilobodji is reminiscent of Lukaku or KDB.

 

You never gave him a chance, ergo neither you nor me have been proven wrong. And unless Conte gives him a chance this status quo will never change. 

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Funny to be lambasted for overhyping africans by the same people that claim Koulibaly isnt a top defender in italy. Honestly cant treat the opinions of such ignorants with any credence.

The evidence came from previous threads where you claim Mikel is the best midfielder we have

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The evidence came from previous threads where you claim Mikel is the best midfielder we have

 

Ehm... Please quote me on that, because I don't believe that to be true. At best I believe Mikel should be played ahead of Matic, because at it stands Mikel is the best defensive midfielder we have (although not entirely true because if it were up to me we would be playing RLC since September last year). Or have I suddenly been transported to some alternate universe where Matic hasn't been utter crap all season?

 

I do believe Mikel is wasted potential, but thats so last decade. Not point in beating a dead horse. Chelsea Mikel is Chelsea Mikel and won't ever be anything more. A good player to have at your disposal, reliable, pivotal at times, if seldom, underrated, but nowhere near his promise. Chelsea fans diss him too much, but I would much prefer to have someone instead of both him or Matic (Raingolan or Asamoah for example).

The evidence came from previous threads where you claim Mikel is the best midfielder we have

 

Yeah. Went through all my posts and well... LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE. Never said anything even remotely close.

 

I mentioned a few times Mikel should be played ahead of Matic and the best compliment I ever made about Mikel is that "Mikel can always be counted on. I guess that his main strength. In the end always good to have him. Reliable if unremarkable."

 

Awating an apology now. Else you are  a twat.

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Yeah. Went through all my posts and well... LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE. Never said anything even remotely close.

 

I mentioned a few times Mikel should be played ahead of Matic and the best compliment I ever made about Mikel is that "Mikel can always be counted on. I guess that his main strength. In the end always good to have him. Reliable if unremarkable."

 

Awating an apology now. Else you are  a twat.

 

The fact that you deem Mikel reliable automatically means I'm not apologising for anything. If anything Mikel's biggest problem is his unreliability. Mikel has stolen a living for years at a top club and the fact that he's still with us really bothers me.

 

Edit: Also, I imagine you probably didn't say he was our best midfielder, I was exaggerating, all I can remember is that you rated him

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Might as well give him a shot as its not like our existing CB's aside from Zouma have shown any consistency. I don't think Terry had as good a year as most people seem to think and we should encourage competition, failing to drop under performing players is what doomed Mourinho so I don't see why Papy shouldn't get a chance to show what he can do.

Edit: Also, I imagine you probably didn't say he was our best midfielder, I was exaggerating, all I can remember is that you rated him

 

Yes, as a limited, reliable sub that can fill in for the first team when needed.

Baba, because we had enough CB's

You, Chelsbear and co are embarrassingly wrong! Jose and Guss have shown many times that Baba is usually there last option. They both prefer Cezar and Ivanovic even at times Kennedy over Baba. So assuming we have a 20 million pound player or even Zouma as an option, Ivanovic would never have played center back this season. Do the Mathematics!

The fact that you deem Mikel reliable automatically means I'm not apologising for anything. If anything Mikel's biggest problem is his unreliability. Mikel has stolen a living for years at a top club and the fact that he's still with us really bothers me.

Edit: Also, I imagine you probably didn't say he was our best midfielder, I was exaggerating, all I can remember is that you rated him

Garbage!

You, Chelsbear and co are embarrassingly wrong! Jose and Guss have shown many times that Baba is usually there last option. They both prefer Cezar and Ivanovic even at times Kennedy over Baba. So assuming we have a 20 million pound player or even Zouma as an option, Ivanovic would never have played center back this season. Do the Mathematics!

SO if we had 1 left back we would choose to sell the back up left back and keep an extra central defender who we have plenty of cover for.

It's not about mathematics it's about common-sense, try applying it.

You, Chelsbear and co are embarrassingly wrong! Jose and Guss have shown many times that Baba is usually there last option. They both prefer Cezar and Ivanovic even at times Kennedy over Baba. So assuming we have a 20 million pound player or even Zouma as an option, Ivanovic would never have played center back this season. Do the Mathematics!

 

Yeah, I did the maths, and Baba still made 17 appearances for us, 11 in the league. Dont think Ivanovic has ever played left back for us.

 

Ivan is actually a CB, and was our cover when Zouma AND Terry got injured, and when we got hit with more injuries we used Mikel a couple times. We had had enough cover.

 

If we needed a cb and not a lb the situation would be reversed, wed be playing a more expensive cb, sending the cheap lb on loan and we'd be here moaning about the lb not getting game time because he didn't cost enough.

 

Although Kenedy is an interesting one because he cost under 7 mil pounds and you are saying he gets played over the more expensive player which kills the whole point of your initial question.

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You, Chelsbear and co are embarrassingly wrong! Jose and Guss have shown many times that Baba is usually there last option. They both prefer Cezar and Ivanovic even at times Kennedy over Baba. So assuming we have a 20 million pound player or even Zouma as an option, Ivanovic would never have played center back this season. Do the Mathematics!

That is just so hilariously, embarrassingly wrong ha ha.

Here's some maths for you...

Ivanovic appearances at left back = ......0. Zero. Nada. Zilch. Nothing. None. Nil.

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