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Chelsea vs Liverpool (PL) 31/10/15 KO 12:45 GMT

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I apologise, the hurtful comments I've recieved force me to admit , Jose will get us into the top 4.

And I will never burn my plastic flag .

:-)

I apologise, the hurtful comments I've recieved force me to admit , Jose will get us into the top 4.

And I will never burn my plastic flag .

:-)

Did you and your mates come down to London in Bill Bailey's tour bus ?

Rawk is well known for its intolerance of anything remotely critical and threads are closed, posters banned at the drop of a hat. No wonder the sad fecks have to seek out opposition websites to spout their sh*t.

We struggled to get tickets for this one and ended up right at the top of West Upper. We were totally surrounded by tourists. This cannot be right when members like ourselves struggle to get tickets. When we scored a lot of them just didn't react and most of them were on their phones. Every time I gestured or tried to chant they looked round at me like I was some sort of nutter. Truth is Liverpool fixture is a big draw for the tourists but this needs looking into. I'm fed up with settling for sh*t tickets in with groups of tourists.

Edited by Petworth Chelsea Fan

I never understand how all the tourists get tickets - they must be released though agencies I guess but it's not right is it?  And the reason why, although the view is better, I would never choose the West.

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Well out of all the other 19 league sides I dislike these t**ts more than the rest. No respect in most of them. Always belittling our club and our achievements.

So naturally, given how we are playing, I am rather worried about this one.

Yup, feeling pretty low right about now, cannot say the result came as a surprise though. Also not surprised we get a few WUMs from the other side sign up to rub it in as well. Hopefully Gem breaks out the Ban hammer pretty soon.

Hahaha! You lot just get more pathetic! Singing the slipped G song as your only amo at the end of the game and he doesn't even play for us anymore.

What's more apt is...have you ever seen Mourinho pull a side out of a slump?

 

I apologise, the hurtful comments I've recieved force me to admit , Jose will get us into the top 4.

And I will never burn my plastic flag .

:-)

 

 

I know it hurts deep inside you.

 

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Let's take a look at this from another angle.

 

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And the grand finale.
 

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Now f**k off to that sh*thole of yours.

 

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When the game was still level and we still look like taking the lead, what was Jose expecting when he substituted Mikel for Fabregas? Sorry you guys shouldn't blame the players for giving up after an average Fabregas who cant help the team defensively came on instead of Matic. Only Jose should be blamed for where we find ourself. The way am seeing it Jose will immediately start Ivanovic once he recovers from injury. He just doesn't realise Fabregas and Ivanovic always make things worse on the field

When the game was still level and we still look like taking the lead, what was Jose expecting when he substituted Mikel for Fabregas? Sorry you guys shouldn't blame the players for giving up after an average Fabregas who cant help the team defensively came on instead of Matic. Only Jose should be blamed for where we find ourself. The way am seeing it Jose will immediately start Ivanovic once he recovers from injury. He just doesn't realise Fabregas and Ivanovic always make things worse on the field

So fabregas doesnt help defensively,and mikel doesnt help attacking, so you would have been happy sitting back for a 1-1, i dont think so,

When the game was still level and we still look like taking the lead, what was Jose expecting when he substituted Mikel for Fabregas? Sorry you guys shouldn't blame the players for giving up after an average Fabregas who cant help the team defensively came on instead of Matic. Only Jose should be blamed for where we find ourself. The way am seeing it Jose will immediately start Ivanovic once he recovers from injury. He just doesn't realise Fabregas and Ivanovic always make things worse on the field

 

mmmm....well you can take that view or, you can try & understand what Jose may have been thinking: when Mikel was replaced by Fabregas at the 71 minute mark he was on a yellow & had played mid-week (with ovetime & w/o having been replaced at Stoke) & was being shown up a bit for pace albeit relative to some of our other players he was doing his job. Just before the substitution Oscar had had that 50 metre speccy which Mignolet did well to parry away but apart from that we had created very little threat at all - apart from Kenedy' initial foray after he'd replaced Hazard. Jose knew that Fabregas was fresh (having not played mid-week) and would provide us with further options in attack. I can understand his thinking - it was a calculated gamble & taken so as to try & win the game. Tell me this, was Fabregas to blame for Coutinho's 2nd or Benteke's goal? Of course not, so what's your point exactly? We'll never know what would have occurred had Matic come on instead of Fabregas but I think it likely that at least attack wise we would have been even more sterile. To say as you do that "we look[ed] like taking the lead..." is rubbish - how many shots on goal had we had in 25 odd minutes in the 2nd? very, very few - so why do you speculate? Who knows - other than to blame the manager. Then you go on to speculate some more concerning Ivanovic. Look, if you can't have the decency to look at the game objectively before making your conclusions - do us a favour & don't post - because it's simplistic crap that doesn't lead anywhere. Ok?

Went. see a pattern great start. Score. Then play in our own half inviting trouble & goals against.

IF they hadnt equalized on the stroke of HT maybe a different outcome. Honestly except for 2 or 3 players most don't seem to be bothered to press run or tackle. Not only yesterday but at the 2 other games I saw ?Stoke & Villa.

Anyway was a buzz to be back in the Shed. Long time !

Carefree lets get behind the club now they need us the most.

We struggled to get tickets for this one and ended up right at the top of West Upper. We were totally surrounded by tourists. This cannot be right when members like ourselves struggle to get tickets. When we scored a lot of them just didn't react and most of them were on their phones. Every time I gestured or tried to chant they looked round at me like I was some sort of nutter. Truth is Liverpool fixture is a big draw for the tourists but this needs looking into. I'm fed up with settling for sh*t tickets in with groups of tourists.

Your not wrong here any attempts to generate an "old school"atmosphere at Chelsea evaporates partly for this reason; the tourist crowd do not know the songs for one. Seen efforts my own included fall on bemused ears all too often. If they cannot even mumble along to "one man went to mow" your screwed basically. Need a drum or two and the "choir" congregated in a designated area as they do in Germany and dare I say it Palace!. I look back at the good old days (yeap there I go again) and long for a return to the mass standing in the Shed and the heart pumping !. Them wert daze.

Your not wrong here any attempts to generate an "old school"atmosphere at Chelsea evaporates partly for this reason; the tourist crowd do not know the songs for one. Seen efforts my own included fall on bemused ears all too often. If they cannot even mumble along to "one man went to mow" your screwed basically. Need a drum or two and the "choir" congregated in a designated area as they do in Germany and dare I say it Palace!. I look back at the good old days (yeap there I go again) and long for a return to the mass standing in the Shed and the heart pumping !. Them wert daze.

I've been in similar situations myself at CL games. I usually sit in the shed end but at the odd times I've had to sit elsewhere I'm usually surrounded by tourists/casual supporters and their girlfriend (no offense to female supporters intended) and half the crowd are staring at their phones from start to finish. It's poor but the club don't care. A ticket sold is a ticket sold

I would say half of them seem to have very little interest and where there as a box ticking tourism exercise. Now I do understand the value of attracting people from all over the world to our ground but the point I'm making is that members like myself are being squeezed out by this silent ever growing contingent. It cannot help our atmosphere when so many of them are on their mobiles.

Edited by Petworth Chelsea Fan

I am struggling to see the point of people posting complaining about 'tourists' at games.

Surely they don't have a leg up on regular fans getting tickets? ie they have to go through the same channels to get tickets?

If you want tickets for games get in quick and buy them, better still get a membership if you haven't already and beat the 'general public' to getting them.

And this sort of thing will only escalate when we have a new bigger stadium or when SB is expanded.

I am struggling to see the point of people posting complaining about 'tourists' at games.

Surely they don't have a leg up on regular fans getting tickets? ie they have to go through the same channels to get tickets?

If you want tickets for games get in quick and buy them, better still get a membership if you haven't already and beat the 'general public' to getting them.

And this sort of thing will only escalate when we have a new bigger stadium or when SB is expanded.

The problem is that there a belief that tickets are being bought up by agencies and sold as part of packages when visiting London from other countries. Like the London eye, etc. The club must allocate tickets for that type of thing

No they are getting tickets through agencies who have memberships to buy up tickets. That's why many of us members who say go to 70% of games are struggling to get tickets more and more.

Just think about it, there is no way these people will have memberships and will not have sufficient points if they bought a membership for one game.

.....and most games do not go on general sale.

I am struggling to see the point of people posting complaining about 'tourists' at games.

Surely they don't have a leg up on regular fans getting tickets? ie they have to go through the same channels to get tickets?

If you want tickets for games get in quick and buy them, better still get a membership if you haven't already and beat the 'general public' to getting them.

And this sort of thing will only escalate when we have a new bigger stadium or when SB is expanded.

Edited by Petworth Chelsea Fan

Isn't the definition of a fool someone who repeats the same thing and expects a different result? Seems like we have more than our fair share of those.

Deep down we know that Guardiola and Neymar and Messi would all turn into under-performing whiners if they came here. Why is that? 

I would say half of them seem to have very little interest and where there as a box ticking tourism exercise. Now I do understand the value of attracting people from all over the world to our ground but the point I'm making is that members like myself are being squeezed out by this silent ever growing contingent. It cannot help our atmosphere when so many of them are on their mobiles.

I've often been told to sit down by Londoners I've also seen polish been told to sit down and shut up which I argued for them again by a Londoner. Its said that the bridge is a tourist attraction but plenty of regulars just sit and expect to be entertained. This isn't a show on Broadway this is football support your team

Edited by bluegraham

I just spent this morning drinking some nice freshly ground coffee from El Salvador (Bourbon) and watching the match again.

 

First half we looked up for it, we held the lead for 44 minutes. Our goal was something you don't see that often since Frankie Lampard left, a move with no stuttering and pauses, a Chelsea player beating a man down the wing, crossing the ball first time and a midfielder coming in late to head it in, simple but almost extinct this season in our game.

 

I don't want to go over their goal coming on 47:24, a full 24 seconds past the 2 minutes allotted of injury time. But that did really knock the sh*t out of us.

 

The second half we looked very bad, especially the midfield, it offered zero protection to our defence, I felt bad for JT and Zouma.

 

Players ambling back to goal and allowing opposition players to steam past them, it's not exceptable, it's not JM's fault, it's nothing to do with formation or tactics, it's down to players having things too easy, no pressure on them to perform with long muti million pound contracts, massive off pitch earnings, and another club waiting to buy them when they fail.

 

So what you get is some right lazy bar stewards running round pretending to look like their playing. The worst thing that can happen to them is getting dropped for the odd half a game here and there.

 

I think the answer may be to look at who these players are, and take them immediately out of the situation and replace them with other players at our disposal. 

I just spent this morning drinking some nice freshly ground coffee from El Salvador (Bourbon) and watching the match again.

First half we looked up for it, we held the lead for 44 minutes. Our goal was something you don't see that often since Frankie Lampard left, a move with no stuttering and pauses, a Chelsea player beating a man down the wing, crossing the ball first time and a midfielder coming in late to head it in, simple but almost extinct this season in our game.

I don't want to go over their goal coming on 47:24, a full 24 seconds past the 2 minutes allotted of injury time. But that did really knock the sh*t out of us.

The second half we looked very bad, especially the midfield, it offered zero protection to our defence, I felt bad for JT and Zouma.

Players ambling back to goal and allowing opposition players to steam past them, it's not exceptable, it's not JM's fault, it's nothing to do with formation or tactics, it's down to players having things too easy, no pressure on them to perform with long muti million pound contracts, massive off pitch earnings, and another club waiting to buy them when they fail.

So what you get is some right lazy bar stewards running round pretending to look like their playing. The worst thing that can happen to them is getting dropped for the odd half a game here and there.

I think the answer may be to look at who these players are, and take them immediately out of the situation and replace them with other players at our disposal.

Hasn't the issue with us always been that as long as our first XI are on form then we don't really need anyone else. José killed the players last season as he clearly doesn't rate the plan B players.

This season he had the choice to use our off form players or go for second string sides that he doesn't trust. He went with the first option and its failed. In doing so he's alienated a load of players who felt they probably should be picked ahead of out of form players. There are a million smaller factors at play as well such as José demeanour, Eva, conspiracy theories and tactics.

Edited by AndyBlue82

 There are a million smaller factors at play as well such as José demeanour, Eva, conspiracy theories and tactics.

 

None of those things should have anything to do with lazy players not giving 100% for the fans, where is their heart in this ?

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