Whenever Mourinho's in trouble, his devoted fans always find someone else responsible. No matter what, it's always somebody else's fault. Somehow Ancelotti had only himself to blame, RDM was too inexperienced, Big Phil was too Brazilian and Benitez was too fat.

But not Jose. He can do no wrong and if there's a problem, it just means somebody didn't give him the players he'd wanted or gave him the wrong players, or better yet, the owner hired people to undermine the genius. Grant was the fall guy back in 2007, now it's Emenalo. 

 

The funny thing is, when Mourinho's team wins, his fans see him as a sole reason for the success. For some inexplicable reason the evil Emenalo didn't prevent him from winning the title last season. Whenever the new player doesn't work out, 'he was forced on Jose'. But what about the good transfer business? Is it all down to Mourinho?

 

The truth is, it's him. JM is a brilliant manager and has a larger than life personality, but he's not perfect. He has made some serious mistakes in the last few years and now it's catching up to him. Happens to the best of us, it's just the first time for him and he's not taking it well.

 

I'd be willing to write this season off and put my faith in Jose, but he needs to at the very least start acting like he cares about the club more than himself. It's bad enough we're losing on a pitch, but when he's constantly losing it off of it, it makes things so much worse. Unless he shows some real maturity and soon, I'd lose all hope in the idea of him staying long term and building something at CFC.

Very good post   

I have been and am firmly behind Jose's return, but he really must stop this churlish stuff it's harming the club now.

And NONE of this has anything to do with what's his name..

 

Edited October 27, 201510 yr by chelseablueboy

That's what the serial killer said when the police caught him. 'Murder is normal, happens everywhere'. And the police were like 'Yeah, go on then'.

 

Sorry, that's just about the worst line of argumentation I've ever read on this forum. Apologies, if your post is good after that as I stopped reading it. Emelano is an unproven little vermin that kissed asses to get where he is. Well done for getting the gig at Chelsea, but he will never get credit for that from people like Mourinho. 

 

And besides, it does not take a genius scout to figure out Mata, Hazard, Courtois or Lukaku are promising players. We were well aware of them before Emelano infected our club.

 

You may have noticed that I hate nepotism.

 

Maybe not but he still bought them so he deserves credit for that thats how it works. We got KDB and Courtois at absolute bargain prices when loads of clubs could of got them for that but we got them first. While we were buying KDB for £6M Man Utd were buying Zaha for 12-15M in the same transfer window so not everyone was appreciating KDB talent.

How about when he failed to sign Rooney when it would of been the piece needed to win the title in Mourinhos first season?

 

What about the failed desperate panic bids for a CB this summer? 

 

How about the flops and wasted money?  Marin, Cudraudo, Salah, Luis etc

 

I would point out that Hazard did not sign because of Emenalo, he signed because we won the CL.

 

According to rumours its actually more Emenalo than Mourinho why KDB is not here.

 

I would also point out, since we are on the KDB train of thought, it was likely Emenalo who thought it was a good idea to sell Matic for peanuts and then rebuy him for over 20million not even 2 seasons later.

 

Just wanted to help you fill in the picture more completely.  I really dont think recruiting players for one of the most competitive clubs in Europe, who also happen to pay some of the biggest salaries, is really that challenging.  Especially when you do so for a club thats buying young talent by the tonnage.

 

For example, I bet a guy with no experience could probably walk into the job and do alright..... just like Emenalo did.

 

so ya're giving him zero credit then.. 

Yes that black guy is our problem. Let's get rid of him and the team will magically start playing again for mourinho.

I wonder if you had the same feelings when he was signing all those great players for us.

Edit: oh so now not only did he have no hand in signing all those players he was actually responsible for them leaving. What an evil man. I'm guessing he's only at Chelsea because of PC gone mad right?

Yes, because everyone is insinuating it's because he's black.

I don't think any forum member would like it inferred they are they are racist because of their opinions on Emanalo. When they blame Mourinho, are they doing it so because he’s Portuguese?

I sincerely doubt their frustration is down to race, nationality, gender or religion.

Yes, because everyone is insinuating it's because he's black.

I don't think any forum member would like it inferred they are they are racist because of their opinions on Emanalo. When they blame Mourinho, are they doing it so because he’s Portuguese?

I sincerely doubt their frustration is down to race, nationality, gender or religion.

Great post, it's like those people who claim that some of us aren't interested in the new Ghostbusters cause they're women. It's not it's because they're messing with a classic and personally for me I don't find those two from Bridesmaids funny in the slightest.

Yes, because everyone is insinuating it's because he's black.

 

Finally an explanation for everyone's problem with Mikel...

#emenaloout

Finally an explanation for everyone's problem with Mikel...

 

For your own safety you should point out that you are not being serious ;)

Don't get me wrong, I think the current team should be doing better and that is down to many things.

Emenalo's role and responsibility is different. And I doubt any of us know who is entirely responsible for player ins and outs at the club.

But I'm assuming that Emenalo has a key say in recruitment and squad planning in consultation with the manager.

If it's the case that Emenalo has been decisive in getting rid of certain players while failing to recruit adequate replacements with the overall result that the squad is weaker than it would otherwise be, then that impacts on how well the team is doing. And how well the manager can do his job.

Especially if the manager identifies key areas of the squad that needs addressing and you fail to meet his demands.

My personal opinion is that the Board need to take responsibility for a string of poor decisions in the transfer market that has left the squad thin and unbalanced. And if the person in overall responsibility is Emenalo then he should be removed from any future say in such a key area.

 

Let me try to sway you from your opinion then. 

 

*  Lukakau , KDB - Were youngsters with potential who were never utilized and wanted playing time. The manager does not want to play them for his reasons, the players want playing time and want to movie out and other clubs are coming with good money - what is the best thing to do in that situation ? 

 

* The core of last year's title winning team were never sold. They are all under-performing. While the likes of Drogba and Cech did leave, we did add quality in the form of Pedro, Begovich and Baba Rahman who comes as one of the most improved LBs from Bundesliga. So if anything we did add quality. 

 

* Ideally Luis would have been here and we would have used him as the LB and Caesar shifted to RB and not played Ivanovic given his form. Sadly the year we won the title, Luis did not even sniff the ground. He was not rotated, he was not given enough minutes, he was just on the bench. He obviously did not want to be here and went back to Atleti. Was it Emanellos fault he did not get playing time ? 

 

* Falcao  - when he came in, JM said that he talked to Cahill and Terry about bringing him in and Emanello did bring him in. If Falcao is not performing to expectation is it Emanello's fault ? It does not seem like it was Emanello who identified him as a requirement. 

 

Dont you think these are fair reasons that maybe the fault does not like with Emanello but more with our form in the pitch ?

so ya're giving him zero credit then..

no, I'm just saying if we are going to be giving Emenalo credit for all the transfer successes, then his hat can catch the blame for all the transfer failures as well. Do you find that unfair?

Brownindian conveniently ignoring the fact KDB got the same treatment from Mourinho as Zouma did.

Clearly Mourinho never wanted Zouma.....Or maybe Mourinho was introducing KDB slowly and the board sold him before he was finished.

Again, cry about KDB's game time but he was facing stiff compeitition from talents far more proven than he was, Zouma faced the same treatment despite far less competition.....oh and now he's a regular starter, one season on.

I laugh at the thought that Chelsea improved. Cech is better than Begovic. Luis is better than Rahman. Pedro was a last minute panic buy and really isn't forcing much more competition on Willian than Cuadrado or Salah did..... and Drogba as both a player and a dressing room influence is miles a head of this Falcao.

Edited October 27, 201510 yr by Barry Bridges

no, I'm just saying if we are going to be giving Emenalo credit for all the transfer successes, then his hat can catch the blame for all the transfer failures as well. Do you find that unfair?

 

To be honest, there was one clear-cut success and that's Hazard - but we all knew about Hazard before Emenalo even coached little girls. Apart from that there was plenty of ins and outs but no real sustainable improvements to the team, which is what matters. We thought we were making good deals but the reality is that we were gradually losing squad depth, giving away quality players without bringing in proper replacements. We were more and more reliant on a few key individuals - and now that they don't perform there is no one to push them. What's the point of the Luiz or Mata money now? If we don't qualify for the Champions League this season they're not even profits on net balance.

 

Our recruitment policy has been exposed as outrageously incompetent as well as myopic, and yes it is Emenalo's fault. He has to go. 

And you know what, instead of 100m worth of players out on loan I'd rather have two proven professionals in the first eleven! 

Brownindian conveniently ignoring the fact KDB got the same treatment from Mourinho as Zouma did.

Clearly Mourinho never wanted Zouma.....Or maybe Mourinho was introducing KDB slowly and the board sold him before he was finished.

Again, cry about KDB's game time but he was facing stiff compeitition from talents far more proven than he was, Zouma faced the same treatment despite far less competition.....oh and now he's a regular starter, one season on.

I laugh at the thought that Chelsea improved. Cech is better than Begovic. Luis is better than Rahman. Pedro was a last minute panic buy and really isn't forcing much more competition on Willian than Cuadrado or Salah did..... and Drogba as both a player and a dressing room influence is miles a head of this Falcao.

 

Zouma, never wanted to leave unlike KDB - I am sure that has a fact to play in him being sold. Luis, Cech also left Chelsea for the same reason. Playing time is important and if the players dont get enough playing time - It is natural that they would want to leave. Ideally Luis would have been playing enough games last season and he would have stayed and we can play Caesar @ RB and not worry about Ivanovic. But that ship has sailed. 

 

I fully agree with you on Drogba leaving but i assumed that was something that he wanted to do. I do not agree with you on the Cech and Pedro statement. Looking at how we let in goals i think the goalkeeper is the least of our problems. Even having Cech start would not have converted any of our defeats into Draws. Begovic was massive but there is only so much he can do in this team game.

 

Pedro, is a Mourinho type player. He is fast and he tracks back to defend - Something that Salah, Schulle and Cuadrado did not do or did not seem convincing doing. I dont think Pedro was brought in purely to give competition to Willian but rather to add more squad strength esp since we lost Salah/Cuadrado/Schrulle. 

 

The squad as it is is not good enough to be a champion, but it is good enough to be top 6. We just need to hit the form. Also if we are to talk about misses I am not at all worried about KDB not being in Chelsea. As good as he is - I think he is similar to Hazard, Pedro and Willian when they are in form. I would prefer that we had gone after Koke or Virudal. 

no, I'm just saying if we are going to be giving Emenalo credit for all the transfer successes, then his hat can catch the blame for all the transfer failures as well. Do you find that unfair?

 

Success and failure in transfer is normal, nobody is perfect in that area.. 

 

If we wanna talk about his shortcoming like ya suggest earlier regarding stones and rooney, I don't think that he should be blamed that much.. Both players required insane amount of money, not succumbed  to that is reasonable.. Had he pulled it off, ya probably say it's because of the inflated money offered anyway..

 

btw, do ya think somebody else could acquire rooney-stones back then? The fact they're still at their respective clubs suggest no... ya can somehow find a way to discredit him in hazard case but ya can't try to understand the situation in rooney-stone case? Do ya think it's fair that way? 

Success and failure in transfer is normal, nobody is perfect in that area.. 

 

If we wanna talk about his shortcoming like ya suggest earlier regarding stones and rooney, I don't think that he should be blamed that much.. Both players required insane amount of money, not succumbed  to that is reasonable.. Had he pulled it off, ya probably say it's because of the inflated money offered anyway..

 

btw, do ya think somebody else could acquire rooney-stones back then? The fact they're still at their respective clubs suggest no... ya can somehow find a way to discredit him in hazard case but ya can't try to understand the situation in rooney-stone case? Do ya think it's fair that way? 

 

It's fine that he failed to secure those targets but when the fall back signing for not getting John Stones is to sign Papy Djilobodji I think it's quite right for questions to be asked. 

It's fine that he failed to secure those targets but when the fall back signing for not getting John Stones is to sign Papy Djilobodji I think it's quite right for questions to be asked. 

 

It's fine that he failed to secure those targets but when the fall back signing for not getting John Stones is to sign Papy Djilobodji I think it's quite right for questions to be asked. 

 

who was supposed to be this back up plan that failed to materialize? DId the manager want it? 

 

Considering papy is yet to play, I wonder if it maters if he brings anyone else when the manager is simply refuse to play him.. For all the hindsight, papy could yet be successful, too soon to write him off..

Considering how feeble we have been at the back since the window shut the fact he's not had any notable game time tell's it's own story.

who was supposed to be this back up plan that failed to materialize? DId the manager want it? 

 

Considering papy is yet to play, I wonder if it maters if he brings anyone else when the manager is simply refuse to play him.. For all the hindsight, papy could yet be successful, too soon to write him off..

 

Well he hasn't played Papy because he's nowhere near the level of player being targeted (Stones). We ended up signing a player inferior to our current options rather than bringing in one that would offer competition/improve the first XI. 

 

It's not too soon to write Papy off at all. He's almost 27, no experience of European football and just two seasons playing in the top division. He's never, ever going to oust Cahill, Terry, Zouma or Ivanovic in the Chelsea team. 

 

That he was bought in as the alternative to Stones was frankly embarrassing and whoever managed the negotiations of both those deals was an idiot.

 

Like the Rooney deal, the bids submitted for Stones were woefully low compared to the player's market value and were never going to lead to a deal being concluded.

 

The reluctance shown by Chelsea in recent seasons to pay the asking price for elite talents has held back the evolution of our team.  

I think the biggest issue with the Stones saga was that we went public with it and that royally pissed off Everton who quite understandbly dug their heels in, even when the player put in the transfer request.

 

If we'd have played it cool and shown a bit more dignity im sure we wouldve got him, perhaps even with the final offer that was made.

 

Dont have too much issue with the Papy signing, it was a defender on the cheap when we needed another body, simply as a last resort backup thats not a long term solution, its adequate. There will be a big money defender signing in Jan or in the Summer, i think that much is obvious. Sadly id wager on it not being Stones now though.

 

The deal i still cant get my head around was the Reading defender. Utterly mystifying.

Edited October 28, 201510 yr by bjd

The point I was trying to make is who did the manager want as alternative to stones? if he didn't want anyone else so what's the point? 

 

I disagree on rooney and stones, for rooney, he's at the end of his contract so our offered was in the region of market value.. For all his worth, he wanted insane wage which could be a problem for our structure and he never handed a transfer request which mean he didn't really wanna go in the 1st place..

 

As for stones, our last offer matched that of market value but what can ya do when everton simply refused to sell? btw, do ya really rate stones that much?

Not paying inflated price for stone could be seen as a success so we could use that money in bringing somebody else in the summer.. 

The point I was trying to make is who did the manager want as alternative to stones? if he didn't want anyone else so what's the point? 

 

I disagree on rooney and stones, for rooney, he's at the end of his contract so our offered was in the region of market value.. For all his worth, he wanted insane wage which could be a problem for our structure and he never handed a transfer request which mean he didn't really wanna go in the 1st place..

 

As for stones, our last offer matched that of market value but what can ya do when everton simply refused to sell? btw, do ya really rate stones that much?

Not paying inflated price for stone could be seen as a success so we could use that money in bringing somebody else in the summer.. 

 

Defence was clearly highlighted as an area of the team Mourinho wanted to strengthen, he's said before he identifies an area maybe makes a suggestion (or two) of who he wants and then the club pursues targets. It's not Jose's job to come up with a list of contingencies should the primary target be unobtainable. 

 

Stones was targeted as the main player to reinforce the defence.  

 

If Stones was unavailable then a player of a similar profile/calibre should have been the alternative. Instead the back up plan was a player at the complete other end of the spectrum which makes zero sense. 

 

Yes, I do rate Stones highly, he is easily the most gifted young centre back playing in the Premier League right now and his quality at his age is apparent and shows a maturity beyond his years much like JT did as soon as he stepped into the Chelsea first team. 

 

There is a premium to be paid on young English talent, the price is over inflated but that's what you have to pay. Manchester City acknowledged this and that's why they paid up £49m for Sterling despite it being way above what you would pay for a non homegrown player of the same skill set.

 

As for not paying the money for Stones being a success so we could buy someone else... That argument might stack up if we had bought someone... But we didn't.  

What we did do was make a desperate last minute bid for PSG's Marquinhos then when that also failed ended up with an unknown 27 year old from France and a player from Reading who was loaned out immediately.

I wouldn't be so sure about that list.. He also said many times he wanted a certain player only.. Considering last time he claimed to just want rooney and no one else, that could be likely being the case with stones here so if there was no back up plan from the manager, what can ya expect from emenelo? 

 

I don't really rate stones that much but time will tell whether it's the right decision not to get stones.. 

Success and failure in transfer is normal, nobody is perfect in that area.. 

 

If we wanna talk about his shortcoming like ya suggest earlier regarding stones and rooney, I don't think that he should be blamed that much.. Both players required insane amount of money, not succumbed  to that is reasonable.. Had he pulled it off, ya probably say it's because of the inflated money offered anyway..

 

btw, do ya think somebody else could acquire rooney-stones back then? The fact they're still at their respective clubs suggest no... ya can somehow find a way to discredit him in hazard case but ya can't try to understand the situation in rooney-stone case? Do ya think it's fair that way? 

 

Success and failure is normal in transfers but not in football?

 

.... where would Stones go with a closed transfer window?  How is that proof of anything other than the fact clubs cant sign players when the transfer window is closed?

 

I'll tell you this, had the club offered more than a derisory 20million with more notice than a few weeks before the window closed, Stone's would likely be a CFC player right now.  Rooney, Arteta, Fellaini etc are proof of this, Everton will sell at the right price if given proper notice.  Clearly the club was willing to spend around 40million, you honeslty think EFC would of rejected 30-35million in June or July for a player with his limited experience?  If Emenalo was intelligent as many posters here, he would of realised the pressure the Everton board was from fans, that they couldnt sell Stones and keep their heads unless they got a decent fee and a replacement or two of enough quality it would satisfy the fans from Stones' departure.  Emenalo's dealings here made EFC need to reject our deal, regardless of money, just to keep their integrity with their fans.  In terms of failure for a Director of Football, it certainly equals the disaster that is the league position so far this season for our manager.

 

 

The fact that they panicked at the end, trying with Marquinhos too, shows that the board acted hastily.  Almost like they thought Mourinho was wrong in needing new players until it was too late to do anything serious about it.

 

Why is it unfair when its about Emenalo but not Mourinho?

 

What can I expect from Emenalo?  Well in the 3 seasons Mourinho has been back, he has only helped achieve what the manager wanted in transfers once.... just once, and the manager won the double.. So i fully f**king expect him to listen to what the f**king manager needs and do what he can to fulfill.  Especially after seeing what it brought this club last window.  He listens to Mourinhop, the club picks up trophies.  Instead it seems as if they sought to prove Mourinho wrong, that Mourinho in fact didnt need any fresh blood in the squad to improve it.

 

Or in other words, I expect the Director of Football at CFC to do their f**king job (translate the needs of the manager to the board) and hold the same level of accountability as the manager.  Big difference to me, is that Mourinho has 3 BPL titles amongst other accolades to show why he deserves time, Emenalo doesnt have a tenth of that credit with me.  For none can dispute that Hazard is Emenalo's biggest success, yet until Mourinho came what did that success bring to the club?  Certainly not a BPL title.

 

 How many other managers must we go through under the reign of Emenalo?