Arteta shouldn't be in that list, end of his career and injury prone, they wanted to sell him anyway.. Fellaini was sold near the end of the transfer window for 20mils +, more of a case he didn't fit martinez style so that one also a case they wanted to sell.. Rooney happened long time ago and it's pretty much a record transfer that time.. It would take a massive amount of money to get stones and I just don't think he's worth it.. He's a CB anyway, he wouldn't be much of a use for our toothless offence.. In defense? unless he's playing fullback then it wouldn't be much different either.. It's also forgiveable to think that we don't need to spend huge money on defence given our record in that area last season..

 

I said it before that stone is still at everton, it proves everton didn't want to sell, if it's only because of market value, he'd have been gone.. what? nobody came for him during the window?

 

The rest of the post is just a long bias pov.. Failure to get 1 player is not the reason for our woe this season, far from it.. If I'm guilty for being too critical of the manager then Mr. Barry yourself is far from innocent in giving critics to anyone other than jose mourinho..

Arteta shouldn't be in that list, end of his career and injury prone, they wanted to sell him anyway.. Fellaini was sold near the end of the transfer window for 20mils +, more of a case he didn't fit martinez style so that one also a case they wanted to sell....

Since when is 29 at the end of a player's career?

We signed Makalele to do a similar job and he was 30 when he came to us, if my memory serves me correctly that transfer didn't work out too badly for us.

Everton "wanting" to sell Faliani, their best and most effective player? I'm sorry but if you need to make things up to try and make your point then your arguments hold little weight.

The point I was trying to make is who did the manager want as alternative to stones? if he didn't want anyone else so what's the point? 

 

I disagree on rooney and stones, for rooney, he's at the end of his contract so our offered was in the region of market value.. For all his worth, he wanted insane wage which could be a problem for our structure and he never handed a transfer request which mean he didn't really wanna go in the 1st place..

 

As for stones, our last offer matched that of market value but what can ya do when everton simply refused to sell? btw, do ya really rate stones that much?

Not paying inflated price for stone could be seen as a success so we could use that money in bringing somebody else in the summer..

What you are failing to grasp is the fact we should not have needed a plan b for Stones as if " the current twat who is nontechnical director" had conducted the deal properly we would have secured Stones.

As pointed out to you before the whole world and his brother in the football community knew what was going on apart from Everton.

So a complete and utter failure to sign a player who will turn out to be an exceptional talent and England regular for many years.

Anyway why are you even talking about transfers as your previous view was as we are the champions we don't need to buy anyone ? make your mind up ??

What you are failing to grasp is the fact we should not have needed a plan b for Stones as if " the current twat who is nontechnical director" had conducted the deal properly we would have secured Stones.

As pointed out to you before the whole world and his brother in the football community knew what was going on apart from Everton.

So a complete and utter failure to sign a player who will turn out to be an exceptional talent and England regular for many years.

Anyway why are you even talking about transfers as your previous view was as we are the champions we don't need to buy anyone ? make your mind up ??

 

Did I mention that we need to buy someone in my post? Yes, I talk about transfer but any decent man who can read know I still maintain the fact that we don't really need to spend hence I didn't make a fuss when we didn't get stone.. did I lament our transfer activity in the summer? only those who trying to find the fall guy so the manager can get scot free for any blame of our recent woe.. 

Since when is 29 at the end of a player's career?

We signed Makalele to do a similar job and he was 30 when he came to us, if my memory serves me correctly that transfer didn't work out too badly for us.

Everton "wanting" to sell Faliani, their best and most effective player? I'm sorry but if you need to make things up to try and make your point then your arguments hold little weight.

 

Arteta was injury prone and at 29? yes it's pretty much end of his career, just like falcao now..

 

As for fellaini,  didn't we sell mata ffs?? our best player for 2 successive seasons running and still off he went so your logic club don't want to sell their best player is flaw and for you to come out with this, I'm sorry to say but your argument hold very little weight... 

You can't always get what you want
But if you try sometime you find
You get what you need

Think this is appropriate for the Stones case.

We have a lot of potentially good and one potential superstar CB already in the Squad with Zouma, Christensen, Kalas and Omerou, so the need to pay massively over the odds for a potentially good CB wasn't  needed. Stones was/ is still a signing for the future he'd currently only be 4th choice there is plenty of time to still get our man if we still want him.

Edited October 29, 201510 yr by PedroMendez

I find it quite humerous how many posters here have such a detailed understanding on what goes on in regards to the transfer comitee and Mourinho. Its the classic case of confirmation bias.

I also find it quite funny that many of the posters on here who claimed the squad was plenty good enough and that we didnt need major signings because we won the league by x amount of points are now blaiming our board for going into the season with a squad that "clearly needed reinforcing"

Arteta was injury prone and at 29? yes it's pretty much end of his career, just like falcao now..

He made roughly 40 appearances in each of his first three seasons, in what way does that make him "injury prone"?

He is definitely part of the problem, I don't know if he's the main one but it's clear that the board and working process needs rearrangement. It's no coincidence that we bought and sold so many players in such a short time. Talking specifically, people like Emenalo and Granovskaia have no credibility getting involved in any professional discussion, they're club workers from different reasons, nothing more than that. In the last two seasons Jose had to sell big to buy big and in the process trying to fix the imbalance that was in the squad before him. He mostly bought replacements in response, sometimes with lesser quality with the biggest example being this season.

 

The moment you see a clear pattern that the manager is getting players he doesn't trust and sells them after 6 months, you know there's a real problem from people who have no qualification to do their job unless their role is a clear go and do instruction from the manager. And if that's the case, they're failing anyway as the manager was organizing and sending his report months in advance just to get random last minute attempts in the final hours of the window.

 

Someone needs to go or something needs to change, give the manager full control over the professional side of the game and almost as important, give the manager full support financially because he didn't get it since he came back, especially if you look at his competition. If you don't invest according to your ambitions, don't expect to magically dominate every year. Mourinho led Chelsea to the most dominant PL title in history last season while making a profit, if someone in the board got carried away and forgot the reality of the football market in 2015, they need to wake up.

Has RA finally found the real person for this season's problems?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/chelsea-transfer-guru-michael-emenalo-6807860

Has RA finally found the real person for this season's problems?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/chelsea-transfer-guru-michael-emenalo-6807860

He's probably just a scapegoat in all of this. But at the same time, it's speculation. No one really knows what is going on, if Emanalo gets the sack, perhaps then he deserved it. 

Depends really. If he is at fault for our farce of a summer window then is deserved, if true.

Has RA finally found the real person for this season's problems?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/chelsea-transfer-guru-michael-emenalo-6807860

 

Just tabloid reports - While i am not impressed with the transfer activity this season, Emanalo has been in that position before Jose's second coming. Since Emanalo's appointment we did win stuff so this one year of bad transfer did not cause us to drop to the position we are in. Hence my conclusion that this is more rumors than anything else. 

Just hire the Atl Madrid's scouting team, they have an amazing record in the last 5 years.

Just hire the Atl Madrid's scouting team, they have an amazing record in the last 5 years.

Portos is better, quite ola few of atl madrids players came from there.

Has RA finally found the real person for this season's problems?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/chelsea-transfer-guru-michael-emenalo-6807860

 

That's good enough for me. Sack Him!

Said it for a while now, there is no apparent focus or end goal with our transfer approach. It's too scatter gun.

Too many average players are being signed at the cost of having a settled squad. We can't address the lack of quality in depth when the the likes of Salah, Cuadrado and Papa are being bought in.

We're replacing our replacements every 12/18 months which isn't healthy.

We need quality not quantity in our signings.

That's good enough for me. Sack Him!

 

Agreed. Most exciting rumour since Pogba. If they sack Emenalo that would make up for a lot of grief this season.

The thing is with Emanalo, if he is identifying players and going after them, it isn't a matter of saying he doesn't know a good player or even that he doesn't sometimes come up with a bargain, it's more that the manager here (more than at other clubs) should be identifying those targets.

 

With Mourinho it isn't just a case of getting in a good player for a position we need to strengthen, it has to be a player that Jose feels is right for the squad and can play that position the way he wants him to.

 

Obviously all managers at all teams would like to be in full control over ins and outs but here we have seen that being good isn't enough for Jose, you have to be able to play the way he wants and if you can't even if you are one of the better signings, you will be gone.

 

I think to improve and really having a squad of players the manager can trust then he needs to be the one identifying the players he wants and the owner after all this time should be trusting him and financing it.

 

I'm not even knocking Emanalo he's brought in some good players and some have been snips but he shouldn't be the one to make the decisions in a Mourinho team, I'd have no problem with him suggesting players and Jose having the final say which could be the case but my gut feeling says it isn't so for me he needs to either step back and do the managers bidding or leave.

Emenalo is either a hero or a villain. When he first came fans on here demanded he be sacked as he had too much influence. Then the last couple of years when we balanced the books and made great profit on players he was regarded a 'genius'. and now he is the villain again. I have no idea how much influence each person has in the transfers of our club, but he cannot be held solely accountable for our failings this year. Yes we should have strengthened, but even without strengthening we should be top half at the bare minimum!! Seems like another employee being singled out for criticism when the only ones who need fingers pointed at are the players who have performed well below their best all season so far.

If Emanalo is the guy bringing players in why is he never pictured with the new signings? Always seems to be the Maria lady.

Edited November 11, 201510 yr by Zola

If Emanalo is the guy bringing players in why is he never pictured with the new signings? Always seems to be the Maria lady.

 

She conducts negotiations over fees and player contracts I believe and I think Emanalo identifies targets etc. 

Emenalo is either a hero or a villain. When he first came fans on here demanded he be sacked as he had too much influence. Then the last couple of years when we balanced the books and made great profit on players he was regarded a 'genius'. and now he is the villain again. I have no idea how much influence each person has in the transfers of our club, but he cannot be held solely accountable for our failings this year. Yes we should have strengthened, but even without strengthening we should be top half at the bare minimum!! Seems like another employee being singled out for criticism when the only ones who need fingers pointed at are the players who have performed well below their best all season so far.

 

1. No one's ever regarded him as genius, apart from maybe our loyal supporters from Africa.

 

2. He balanced the books? Well take that: The fact that we will miss out on Champions League football for a season and totally fail in the Premier League will cost us more than the only good deal he made brought in, which was £50m for Luiz. On top of that we'll find it way harder to target top talent next summer. To think that we missed out on Vidal and Douglas Costa who are both thriving at Bayern is reason enough to sack Emenalo.

To think that we missed out on Vidal and Douglas Costa who are both thriving at Bayern is reason enough to sack Emenalo.

 

And how do we know Mourinho and/or the club wanted those players in the first place? It's not like they were hidden gems or anything. Both are well known players in European football.

Edited November 11, 201510 yr by Maksimov

And how do we know Mourinho and/or the club wanted those players in the first place? It's not like they were hidden gems or anything. Both are well known players in European football.

 

Let me answer with a question: Who wouldn't want Vidal and Costa? Especially given our lack of depth in the areas they cover.

 

Emenalo is a scout isn't he? He is supposed to know when top players are available and not let Bayern - formerly our competitors - get them.