As it seems more and more a forgone conclusion that the CL is gone for next season, the question keeps coming up, who will want to sign for us next season knowing that there is no CL? personally i am not bothered about losing the possible services of a player who will not sign because he will not be playing in the CL, and would rather sign players wanting to get us and them selves into the CL.

Marko Marin?

what you reckon get him back?

As it seems more and more a forgone conclusion that the CL is gone for next season, the question keeps coming up, who will want to sign for us next season knowing that there is no CL? personally i am not bothered about losing the possible services of a player who will not sign because he will not be playing in the CL, and would rather sign players wanting to get us and them selves into the CL.

Why is it 'more and more' a forgone conclusion? We havent been knocked out have we?

Edited January 15, 201610 yr by TheChelseaBlues

Why is it 'more and more' a forgone conclusion? We havent been knocked out have we?

if your being positive i admire it !! but come on, we keep dropping points

if your being positive i admire it !! but come on, we keep dropping points

So does everyone else, City, Arsenal, Man U and Liverpool all drew midweek and Spurs lost so that's a point gained on them.

12 points is steep but it isn't insurmountable  in these current league conditions.

Also there is winning the CL ;)  

Edited January 15, 201610 yr by PedroMendez

Back to the question though in the hypothetical scenario of no CL football next year.
We will still be seen as a big club that doesn't drop away after 1 season, look at Liverpool and Man U as examples. But it will however reduce the likelihood of the top echelon of players from choosing us over some of the other top clubs. Madrid and Barce were ahead of us in the pecking order anyway but this will most likely move Bayern, Juve, Psg, Manchesters and even Arsenal ahead of us in the running. So this likely rules out players like Pogba and Reus, It will also make it very difficult to attract players from those teams (which was already very difficult) so players like Bale and Lewandowski if on the move would likely go elsewhere. However fringe players from those teams so players like Isco, Chamberlain and Lavezzi/Cavani should still be up for a move.

So it really shouldn't overly reduce the pool of interested players.  

But if worst comes to worst and there really isn't any first team quality players out there then I don't particularly want us to bring in mediocre squad players to strengthen the squad.We already have ample Premier League quality players on our books who are out on loan, so if worst comes to worst we could always bring these players into the fold.

 

Moses 25 (West Ham Looked decent for us in preseason and for West Ham when he was fit) 

Ake 20 (Watford has been great so far for Watford and has been one of there best players since getting into the first team)

Pasalic 20 (Monaco has been a very solid and somewhat physical midfield presence so far this season whilst chipping in with a few goals)  

Van Ginkel 23 (Stoke looks to have bulked out a little a stoke and has been relatively injury free currently being kept out of the team by Whelan and Geoff Cameron but doesn't need much to make that step up)

Christensen 19 (Mochengladbach probably the best player on this list and has been great at the back for Borussia whilst still making the odd mistake though probably less error prone than Stones who has been hyped up to the roof, one drawback is that his loan is suppose to last another season)

 

These additions would definitely provide some extra cover but they might also provide some of what we have been missing Christensen would provide some extra legs at the back whilst complimenting Zouma, Van ginkel, Pasalic and Moses would provide some extra physicality to a rather lightweight midfield and Ake is a very versatile player who might just push Azpi to RB. 

 

There are also some other notables out there;

Bamford, Baker (Vitesse), Chalobah (Napoli just starting to feature), Kalas (Middlesborough), Boga (Rennais just starting breaking into the team and scoring goals) and lastly Cuadrado (Juventus I know he flopped last time he was here but he was worth £27m at one point there must be something there right?)

 

I know these players aren't exactly star studded but they are there and some of them aren't half bad. 

Only logical response would be to promote from within. So we probably wouldn't do that.

 

But it's a moot point as we'll win the CL this year ;)

So does everyone else, City, Arsenal, Man U and Liverpool all drew midweek and Spurs lost so that's a point gained on them.

12 points is steep but it isn't insurmountable in these current league conditions.

Also there is winning the CL ;)

That was my thinking as well. We have no chance of 4th. Winning the CL however, very much a possibility

Please I really need an answer to this. If a team in the top 4 wins the Champions league, does that mean top 5 teams from the EPL will play in the Champions league next season?

Please I really need an answer to this. If a team in the top 4 wins the Champions league, does that mean top 5 teams from the EPL will play in the Champions league next season?

Still same four qualify.

Still same four qualify.

Unless a team from the prem wins the Europa cup too, 4th place misses out and champions league winner goes into qualifiers as only 5 at most can go into champions league.

Do u still get uefa cup for winning fa cup?

But hang on a minute.

 

Leicester have never had any CL football, but they seem to have managed to put together a title challenging team.

But hang on a minute.

 

Leicester have never had any CL football, but they seem to have managed to put together a title challenging team.

and with no big name big money players. just committed players, well managed and hungry for success

But hang on a minute.

 

Leicester have never had any CL football, but they seem to have managed to put together a title challenging team.

I'd love to see them do it or even stick around, but I think calling them title challengers in January is a stretch.

For a team to come out of nowhere they need to stick around until March maybe April otherwise it's no more than a purple patch and a bit of a fluke.

Like I said though...I'd love to see them hang around as long as possible.

I don't actually think signing players in next summers transfer window will be as big of a problem as the OP is making it out to be, Here's why, Both Madrid clubs are out of the picture now with their transfer ban, United are so desperate that they seem to be off putting to players sort of like the guy in a night club who's really hard up and women can sense it, We will only be in the market for young, quick, ball possession types if Guardiola arrives, What with the core of our squad already in place, Which only leaves Bayern and Barcelona as your genuine rivals for signatures, There's also Arsenal but then they are Arsenal after all.

 

I think next summer is all about Abrahamovich getting the big boy trousers out sort of like he did when he first come and none of this trying to comply with FFP nonsense last summer, If you offer more money to players than Bayern and Barca you will land the elite players you want, What with players thinking this season is a blip and the London factor, It's not all doom and gloom for you lads trust me.

i would kind of like to steer away from the big name big money players, to many of them come with egos to match

Do u still get uefa cup for winning fa cup?

Yea

We should hopefully be able to sing big names. City did it to get where they are now. The problem is that we may need to overspend a bit.

 

I hope we are a lot smarter with our signings, if we can't get the big names, then go look for unknown quality.

Next season is a crucial one for us. With the lack of quality managers, it's really important that we don't do a Liverpool and slow drop out of the top 4. One season is fine but 2,3 or 4 would really see us fall behind.

It's admirable by the club to want to adhere to FFP but it's hamstrung us. We need to get the right guy in (which is going to be difficult, Simone looks like the only decent prospect) and spend big. No more faffing about. We need to bounce back next season.

Seems appropriate to ask this in this thread.

 

Without CL football next season who do we think will ask to leave in the summer? Not will they leave but who will ask for it and have their agent push for a move?

 

I personally think the following are very likely to do so:

 

Tibo, Hazard, Costa and Cesc.

 

I could also see Pedro doing so. 

Coiurtois and Hazard probably.

if they want to leave because of no CL, then let them go, get players in who want to play for the club

Any player who had a part to play in us not getting top 4 then subsequently wants to leave can f**k right off.