Finally! Someone who thinks along the same lines as me. Lol.

 

I jest but if JT were to score an OG i'd hope the replay would show it was a genuine OG lol, i.e freak deflection etc etc

 

I'd feel differently if Arsenal or Liverpool were competing for the title but I'm actually with ShedEnder91 on this one - play to win and whatever happens happens.

Edited April 19, 201610 yr by the special one

I wouldn't be so quick to write us off against Spurs.
 

It sorta goes against everything the game, in fact sport in general stands for. That's an old-fashioned view perhaps but the notion of throwing a game is utterly detestable to a few people.

 

But to bring up a point that might speak to people's self-interest, we'd almost certainly be charged by The FA with bringing the game into disrepute (and rightly so) and almost certainly be docked points next season at the very least. Truth is if The FA decided to dock us points this season then we could potentially be relegated.

First of all, the FA have to prove that you've thrown the match. So long as the players try for 90% of the time everything should be okay. That vital 10% would be enough for Leicester to win. For example, a back pass straight to Jamie Vardy. Something like that cannot be proven as match fixing. If it could, then why wasn't Steven Gerrard and Liverpool charged when he back passed to Drogba in 2010? Come on, we all know that he did that on purpose because he didn't want United winning the title. More importantly, he knew that the Liverpool fans didn't want that. He did what was necessary and (essentially) secured us the title.

This is the first time i've posted since the immediate aftermath of Mourinho being sacked, just to say that if we lose to Spurs and then take points of Leicester, and in the process hand the title to Spurs, then this truly is the biggest sh*thole of a season in my lifetime.

First of all, the FA have to prove that you've thrown the match. So long as the players try for 90% of the time everything should be okay. That vital 10% would be enough for Leicester to win. For example, a back pass straight to Jamie Vardy. Something like that cannot be proven as match fixing. If it could, then why wasn't Steven Gerrard and Liverpool charged when he back passed to Drogba in 2010? Come on, we all know that he did that on purpose because he didn't want United winning the title. More importantly, he knew that the Liverpool fans didn't want that. He did what was necessary and (essentially) secured us the title.

 

I thought that time he slipped to let Demba Ba through was a far more obvious case of throwing a game to be honest.

I thought that time he slipped to let Demba Ba through was a far more obvious case of throwing a game to be honest.

Come on, the circumstances were very, very different. He would have no reason to slip deliberately and you know it. Besides, slips happen to all of us (I nearly broke my neck the other day when walking up a flight of stairs). Gerrard's just happened at a very inopportune time. A back pass like the one that led Drogba in is truly indefensible. Just watch a clip of it now on YouTube or something and tell me that it wasn't deliberate. 

Beat both Spurs and Leicester - if its not Chelsea winning the title, then it doesn't matter.

Doesn't really matter what we think, unlike years ago players used to understand rivalry from the fans now they don't give a sh.t it's just another team.

Look, I think we can all agree that we'd actually prefer to see Leicester win the title rather than Spurs. Correct? So, why should we be wanting Chelsea to win against Leicester? The match is meaningless to us but could mean all the world to Leicester and Ranieri. Personally, I think it's our players DUTY to let Leicester win the title. They've given us a miserable season up to now, the least they can give us is to let us enjoy the last day of the season by stopping Spurs from winning the title. I'm not talking about total humiliation here, a couple of own goals would suffice.

 

Actually, I don't think I have too much to worry about. Fabregas has already admitted that he doesn't want Spurs to win the title, so he obviously isn't going to be giving his all against Leicester. Would you condemn him for that? I applaud up for that.

I can't believe what I'm reading here. If a new member signed up and posted this they would be called a troll and rightfully so. 

I can't believe what I'm reading here. If a new member signed up and posted this they would be called a troll and rightfully so. 

Look, evidently you don't care about fan rivalry. I (and many others) do. It's as simple as that, really.

Doesn't matter between Spurs or Leicester. As long as City, Arsenal or United don't come close, I am OK. Hate this season.

Look, evidently you don't care about fan rivalry. I (and many others) do. It's as simple as that, really.

 

I think that's a tiny bit unfair. You can care about fan rivalry without wanting the club to embarrass itself and betray the underlying principles of sporting competition.

 

Those principles existed thousands of years before Facebook banter so you can understand why some people are attached to them.

Throwing the game is ridiculous. Can't do it. Shame on you if you have no problem deliberately losing a match. I hate Spurs slightly less than Arsenal but if they are top on the final day they deserve to be there and credit to them, we shouldn't be trying to manipulate the table because we've been so bad we've got nothing to lose.

 

Would I be happy if we lost to Leicester and they won the title because of it? Yes. Would I be happy with 4 or 5 U-21s starting that match? Yes. There are a few ways you can make it more difficult for us to win but handing over the 3 points on purpose is not defensible

Edited April 19, 201610 yr by TheChelseaBlues

Fine by me.

 

what if next time spurs also throwing the game to, lets say, city for example to prevent us from winning the league? would you have the same line as I quote above?

I think that's a tiny bit unfair. You can care about fan rivalry without wanting the club to embarrass itself and betray the underlying principles of sporting competition.

 

Those principles existed thousands of years before Facebook banter so you can understand why some people are attached to them.

Let's put it this way. All of my friends who are Chelsea fans (one of them in his 40's) would rather we throw the game against Leicester rather than let dear old Spuds win the title. It's a meaningless game. I can't stand the thought of Spurs fans saying stuff like, 'Thanks for the favour Chelski.' Combine that with Claudio walking away with nothing once again and that's a nightmare scenario.

what if next time spurs also throwing the game to, lets say, city for example to prevent us from winning the league? would you have the same line as I quote above?

Nope. But I'd understand them throwing the match (so long as they had nothing to play for).

Look, evidently you don't care about fan rivalry. I (and many others) do. It's as simple as that, really.

I care about the rivalry, just not to the point where I am willing to disregard certain values. 

 

I can handle most things but our players going out onto the pitch and disrespecting the club by intentionally throwing a match is simply unforgivable. 

 

Let's just hope that it doesn't come down to us on the final day, I would hate for the thought to even enter the player's minds. 

Let's just hope that it doesn't come down to us on the final day, I would hate for the thought to even enter the player's minds. 

I agree. But if it does come down to it I wholeheartedly believe that some of our players will deliberately underperform.

We could be the heroes or villians of the premiere league!

I'd hate it more if spurs win it than arsenal, at least arsenal have won it before but spurs haven't and it should stay like that forever otherwise pochetino & his associates would become smugger with 'his spurs bigger than chelsea' comment..

 

This season is truly abysmal to reduce us to be in such situation.. I think with leicester against us in the final game, it's destiny that they'll win it and at the same time we get back our mojo, you know space jam styles..

We will lose both of them. I hope so.

 

I can't see us picking up a single point before the season is out.

 

The quicker the deadwood is taken out and Guus is gone the better.

It sorta goes against everything the game, in fact sport in general stands for. That's an old-fashioned view perhaps but the notion of throwing a game is utterly detestable to a few people.

 

But to bring up a point that might speak to people's self-interest, we'd almost certainly be charged by The FA with bringing the game into disrepute (and rightly so) and almost certainly be docked points next season at the very least. Truth is if The FA decided to dock us points this season then we could potentially be relegated.

 

And how could one tell if we threw the game or just played on the same level as the whole season? There would practically be no difference between the two.

 

Also, how many point do you think the FA can deduct? It has to be at least 15 for us to be in danger of relegation. So far 15 point was the biggest (L**ds in 2007), it's not likely at all to break that record for a mere sh*t performance.

Edited April 19, 201610 yr by undertow

And how could one tell if we threw the game or just played on the same level as the whole season? There would practically no difference between the two.

 

Also, how many point do you think the FA can deduct? It has to be at least 15 for us to be in danger of relegation. So far 15 point was the biggest (L**ds in 2007), it's not likely at all to break that record for a mere sh*t performance.

 

Just setting to one side the fact that the season hasn't finished yet so it's entirely possible for Sunderland or Norwich to accrue more points whilst we don't, meaning it could be less than a 15 point deduction needed to put us in real trouble....

 

are you actually suggesting we do fix a match? You're right that we have been poor this season but this discussion is about us intentionally losing a match so that Spurs don't win the title. The whole suggestion is quite frankly embarrassing.

Just setting to one side the fact that the season hasn't finished yet so it's entirely possible for Sunderland or Norwich to accrue more points whilst we don't, meaning it could be less than a 15 point deduction needed to put us in real trouble....

 

are you actually suggesting we do fix a match? You're right that we have been poor this season but this discussion is about us intentionally losing a match so that Spurs don't win the title. The whole suggestion is quite frankly embarrassing.

 

Just how many points do you think can be deducted for a bad performance? If it's more than 0 then why didn't the FA already deduct points from us?

 

Please quote the post where I suggested anything. If you cannot then you might as well try to answer my question instead of putting words into my mouth. If we put in a turgid performance and lose the game like we often did this season, how do you think the FA could prove there was intent?

Just how many points do you think can be deducted for a bad performance? If it's more than 0 then why didn't the FA already deduct points from us?

 

Please quote the post where I suggested anything. If you cannot then you might as well try to answer my question instead of putting words into my mouth. If we put in a turgid performance and lose the game like we often did this season, how do you think the FA could prove there was intent?

 

I'm sorry, but I think that you have to look at your post in the context of the discussion that's been going on where people have talked about throwing the match, scoring own goals etc.