But you won't put any blame on the players who have underperformed specially Costa who came back overweight, just stood on the left wing and watched crosses go into a empty box. Throwing his bib at the manager was really backing him lol

You just blame it all on Mourinho which wasn't the case, like I said there was things that I didn't like and I thought the physio thing was embarrassing but I don't blame all this season on Mourinho.

William was a last min signing to the reaction of Spurs and probably to stop them from getting him which has worked out good. If Pedro was plan b who was plan a then? Why would you sign someone on the last day of the transfer window if you have been chasing him all summer, last player Chelsea needed was a winger.

Regarding Falcao like I said Mourinho isn't exactly going to say his rubbish before his walked through the door.

I reckon Williams would give Arsenal enough points to be joint top or top and would improve City's defence when Kompany was injured and now playing with him. He is a proven PL CB who is a leader and talks to players and would make a difference where the big teams have extremely underperformed.

This is a one off whacky under quality premier league where it will be Leicesters, Spurs and Arsenals best chance to win the league for the next 10 years.

I am fed up with reading your rubbish and should stop replying, looks like I am the last one left and I can't be bothered with it anymore.

Regardless of whether you feel the club backed JM in the summer tranbsfer window, how on earth can it be acceptable to be 1 point above relegation and lose 9 of your first 16 games with a squad that just won the PL ?

 

We were absolutely AWFUL to watch as well. For a year.  I'm sure Roman could just about stomach the negative tactics when we were winning, or not losing, but when you back up sh*te football with a stream of losses then you really have nowhere else to go.

 

Add in all the off-field shenanigans as well. and it is indefensible, which is why many of the JM fans in this thread have become abusive and personal to other posters instead,

 

That's a very fair point. No we shouldn't have been in that position but what position should we have been in? That's a question I'd love to hear answered.

 

What exactly was the aim or ambition of this club? I think it's been very clearly proven that the squad wasn't strengthened and some may even say it was weakened, so what is the aim of a club that doesn't improve it's squad?

 

Is it to tread water? Well you can't do that in this league can you? When everyone around you is trying to improve their squad, there's a good chance you'll get overtaken and if you aren't challenging your players with competition from new players then there's always a chance they'll become complacent.

 

So was the target top four? Was it top-half? Based on how the team finished last season (clearly in need of reinforcements) and the summer dealings, what in your opinion was the club aiming for this season?

People should stop looking back with rose tinted spectacles ... Jose's season this year was dreadful ... terrible.

And Jose only had himself to blame, tbh.

His public handling of Eva was bullying ... even if behind the scenes there were maybe reasons?

His methods of running the same hand-ful of players into the ground, despite poor form and giving zero chance to anyone else was clearly evident for all to see ...

His favouritism towards non-performing players was also clearly evident for all to see, etc.

Forcing Mata out for Oscar was unforgivable, IMHO ...

And prospects leaving because they knew they wouldn't get a look-in under Jose's methods was there for all to see ...

They had zero chance and therefore, zero motivation to stay under Jose.

We all wanted Jose to be a success, and still be here, of course ... but this time around it was obvious why he left.

I agree with all that but it's alright when your winning the league though ;).

The Eva situation was so embarrassing, she didn't do anything wrong.

Even last season Mourinho would keep playing the same players, then this year he would keep playing out of form players like Iva. The way Costa was behaving I would of dropped him, played youngsters if Remy and Falcao wasn't fit. Costa got 4 goals in 20 games for Mourinho.

Mourinho did like defence first so that's why Iva and Dave were picked over Luis but both players gave very little going forward, but Luis was a top draw LB who is first choice for Athletico and now Brazil, that was a mistake by Mourinho.

Even this season Mourinho wouldn't pick Baba and we had Zouma playing RB.

The one thing about Mata is Chelsea got good money for him but he is a much better player than Oscar.

The biggest thing that bothered me was the lack of opportunities to players specially when Mourinho said he can decide on a player within 10mins.

I was excited when we had KDB and Lukuka but never given a chance. Now we need to spend the same amount of money to bring that sort of quality back to the squad.

Whether they have played poor or not players like Salah, Moses, Cuadrado, Bertrand and Luis never being given a chance in the first team.

Imagine the difference Luis, KDB and Lukuka would make to this squad.

My opinion is the whole off season was a complete cluster f**k. It's all conjecture but this is how I think the balls up happened.

José around January season 14/15 realised our squad had no depth at all and to prove it plays a very small group all the way to the end of the season.

He then puts forward to the board a recruitment plan to strengthen the first team with a couple of signings and also build the squad.

It doesn't happen, he gets zero players he asked for and is lumped with some unknown lower league players, stupid loans and last minute buys. How much input he had is unknown.

The pre season is built around the players peaking later in the season than the 14\15 season, which saw them knackered and unable to fight for the champions league, which I think was the main target for the 15\16 season.

It didn't work. Players are unfit, not arsed, got the hump.

José has took huff and is not happy, causing rifts in the squad.

Whether he then engineered his way out of the club is again unknown, but I've a feeling he did as he knew the majority of our squad had no backbone or fight, and weren't his players.

So everyone involved in this season has equal share of blame, everyone. Players, board, manager. All of them f**ked this season up.

My opinion is the whole off season was a complete cluster f**k. It's all conjecture but this is how I think the balls up happened.

José around January season 14/15 realised our squad had no depth at all and to prove it plays a very small group all the way to the end of the season.

He then puts forward to the board a recruitment plan to strengthen the first team with a couple of signings and also build the squad.

It doesn't happen, he gets zero players he asked for and is lumped with some unknown lower league players, stupid loans and last minute buys. How much input he had is unknown.

The pre season is built around the players peaking later in the season than the 14\15 season, which saw them knackered and unable to fight for the champions league, which I think was the main target for the 15\16 season.

It didn't work. Players are unfit, not arsed, got the hump.

José has took huff and is not happy, causing rifts in the squad.

Whether he then engineered his way out of the club is again unknown, but I've a feeling he did as he knew the majority of our squad had no backbone or fight, and weren't his players.

So everyone involved in this season has equal share of blame, everyone. Players, board, manager. All of them f**ked this season up.

 

Agree that all sounds very plausible except the final two sentences but that's splitting hairs. The thing is that I agree totally that it was a clusterf**k from top to bottom yet you sack the coach because that's the easy move to make and keep the rest.

 

Any company ran responsibly would have a top-to-bottom review.

Edited March 12, 201610 yr by ShedEnder91

Utter bollocks,baseless headcanons. "Jose realized", "Jose put forward",must have shared information with you,right?. After some much ridiculing of ppl's posts, only to come up with this?. What a let down.

Missed the bit where I said it's my opinion and all conjecture then you moron. Go learn how to read before making yourself look even more of an idiot. If that's possible.

Missed the bit where I said it's my opinion and all conjecture then you moron. Go learn how to read before making yourself look even more of an idiot. If that's possible.

In your opinion, "Jose realized", "Jose put a forward a recruitment plan", "Engineered a move out of the club ( a certain someone hinted this and got sticks for it, didn't see you agreeing then)". Just wow, marvelous. Erm, better a witty fool than a foolish wit.

yes, in my opinion. which i thought was obvious after i wrote "my opinion". maybe i will have to dumb it dowm for the hard of thinking like you.

Agree that all sounds very plausible except the final two sentences but that's splitting hairs. The thing is that I agree totally that it was a clusterf**k from top to bottom yet you sack the coach because that's the easy move to make and keep the rest.

 

Any company ran responsibly would have a top-to-bottom review.

I expect an end of season review is standard, i wonder how this one would be written up. there will be a few people worried about their position.

yes, in my opinion. which i thought was obvious after i wrote "my opinion". maybe i will have to dumb it dowm for the hard of thinking like you.

Relax. Your words are getting hard to follow ( triggered already?). Just a thought, maybe you should've thought so when decided to be a SJW when replying others, you know its their opinions also or did the fact that they didn't type "my opinion" factor in your sh*tty responses?

I expect an end of season review is standard, i wonder how this one would be written up. there will be a few people worried about their position.

 

You'd hope so. Also I think you just called a social justice warrior which is an interesting one, but I think we all got that what you were saying was an opinion rather than fact.

You'd hope so. Also I think you just called a social justice warrior which is an interesting one, but I think we all got that what you were saying was an opinion rather than fact.

I wonder what an incoming manager would think of the way emenalo treat mourinho when sacking him, if it was me I would want a layer of management between me and him, at least.

It takes a special kind of stupid to not understand what's an opinion piece, after the first 2 words written in it is "My opinion" ha ha. Poor little whelp seems quite upset by his embarrassing lack of understanding.

Try harder.

But you won't put any blame on the players who have underperformed specially Costa who came back overweight, just stood on the left wing and watched crosses go into a empty box. Throwing his bib at the manager was really backing him lol

You just blame it all on Mourinho which wasn't the case, like I said there was things that I didn't like and I thought the physio thing was embarrassing but I don't blame all this season on Mourinho.

William was a last min signing to the reaction of Spurs and probably to stop them from getting him which has worked out good. If Pedro was plan b who was plan a then? Why would you sign someone on the last day of the transfer window if you have been chasing him all summer, last player Chelsea needed was a winger.

Regarding Falcao like I said Mourinho isn't exactly going to say his rubbish before his walked through the door.

I reckon Williams would give Arsenal enough points to be joint top or top and would improve City's defence when Kompany was injured and now playing with him. He is a proven PL CB who is a leader and talks to players and would make a difference where the big teams have extremely underperformed.

This is a one off whacky under quality premier league where it will be Leicesters, Spurs and Arsenals best chance to win the league for the next 10 years.

I am fed up with reading your rubbish and should stop replying, looks like I am the last one left and I can't be bothered with it anymore.

Fed up of my rubbish lol. The feeling is mutual.

The players are to blame also and the board are nor perfect I KNOW THIS!!! Bottom line is however that the ultimate responsibility lies with the manager and it's clear that Jose's fans refuse to accept that.

There was no credit for Emanalo etc when we won the league but as soon as the manager clearly messes up through self infliction, they suddenly become accountable.

With regards to the bib throwing what do you mean about "that's really backing him"? We were talking about the board backing him. Obviously Costa was just one of many players to fall out with Jose.

I have no idea who plan a was, neither do anyone else. That's why I can't understand people saying Jose wasn't backed when they have no clue who his targets were and how realistic they were.

Regarding Falcao Mourinho didn't have to wax lyrical about him either. He didn't praise Baba highly did he.

I reckon had Mourinho showed some mettle and managed the squad better to how Hiddink is doing now, we would still be in the title race.

I support my club you support Jose. Enjoy watching Utd next season I'll know you'll be happy for him.

I like Jose as a manager, he is the most successful in Chelsea's history and one of the most successful ever, I don't mind defending him and liking him.

You obviously don't like Mourinho and have been waiting for this oppurtonty to slag him off, like I have said bet you was cheering all the trophies he won or was they really hard to take.

I reckon Utd with Mourinho will finish above Chelsea next year maybe even win the prem.

I have also stated before in a post the things I didn't enjoy when Mourinho was manager so it isn't all one sided.

I can just see the board and the players are to blame just as much as Mourinho but at the end of the day only one person at any club takes the blame and that's the manager. You can't sell all your players can you.

Costa throwing his bib at the manager was awful behaviour.

It's not that I don't like him. I do like him but at the same time I hated such an avoidable meltdown which led to his sacking. I really don't care if we didn't win the league this season but the least I ask for is a respectable league finish which wasn't happening under him.

Also I don't mind his boring turgid football if it produces results but it didn't and nothing was changing. Why should I keep blaming Ivan, Costa and Cesc when he kept selecting them every week? He could've gone for youth as he said he would do.

I've waited for no opportunity to slag him off and I wish it never came to this, but through his own actions it did.

I can see us coming above Utd and Mourinho with Conte next season. They are worse than us imo and Jose showed this season that he is not invincible

That's a very fair point. No we shouldn't have been in that position but what position should we have been in? That's a question I'd love to hear answered.

 

What exactly was the aim or ambition of this club? I think it's been very clearly proven that the squad wasn't strengthened and some may even say it was weakened, so what is the aim of a club that doesn't improve it's squad?

 

Is it to tread water? Well you can't do that in this league can you? When everyone around you is trying to improve their squad, there's a good chance you'll get overtaken and if you aren't challenging your players with competition from new players then there's always a chance they'll become complacent.

 

So was the target top four? Was it top-half? Based on how the team finished last season (clearly in need of reinforcements) and the summer dealings, what in your opinion was the club aiming for this season?

 

I would have thought qualification for the CL and a trophy of some sort would have been the objective. Plus probably bring a couple of youth players through to first team potential. Would be fascinating to know definitively what the mandate to JM was, but we're all just guessing of course :)

 

I don't think a lack of investment should have impacted us as much as it did. Personally I think JM screwed Costa's head by selling his big mate Felipe Luis after never giving him a real chance at leftback., Then his treatment of Eva Carneiro tipped players sick of the negative tactics over the edge.

 

Bad management is usually the cause of good players failing to perform, in business as well as football. Roman made the only decision he could make, unfortunately too late to save our season.

 

 

Bad management is usually the cause of good players failing to perform, in business as well as football. Roman made the only decision he could make, unfortunately too late to save our season.

 

The thing is, Jose is just an employee too. He isn't the man at the top so if you're saying that 'bad management' is the cause of underperformance shouldn't we look a bit more holistically? 

Did saking him improve our season.

I think not.

Best manager we have ever had.

People should stop looking back with rose tinted spectacles ... Jose's season this year was dreadful ... terrible.

And Jose only had himself to blame, tbh.

His public handling of Eva was bullying ... even if behind the scenes there were maybe reasons?

His methods of running the same hand-ful of players into the ground, despite poor form and giving zero chance to anyone else was clearly evident for all to see ...

His favouritism towards non-performing players was also clearly evident for all to see, etc.

Forcing Mata out for Oscar was unforgivable, IMHO ...

And prospects leaving because they knew they wouldn't get a look-in under Jose's methods was there for all to see ...

They had zero chance and therefore, zero motivation to stay under Jose.

We all wanted Jose to be a success, and still be here, of course ... but this time around it was obvious why he left.

Lukaku leaving ... more piss poor Management by Jose ...

Did saking him improve our season.

I think not.

Best manager we have ever had.

 

And I wonder if he still doesn't rate Lukaku?

Lukaku leaving ... more piss poor Management by Jose ...

 

He sold a striker, he brought in a striker. Should we not take those decisions together or just pick and choose?

He sold a striker, he brought in a striker. Should we not take those decisions together or just pick and choose?

 

No, he could have managed the situation better. Which as far as I'm concerned was part of his job.

No, he could have managed the situation better. Which as far as I'm concerned was part of his job.

 

So we shouldn't take the decisions together. Fair enough. Seems a little like we're wilfully ignoring what happened to suit our ends but I respect your opinion.