Pretty clear what their strategy is at this point. They are not signing all these potential talents to build a fantastic team for the next 10-15 years. More like they are stockpiling young, potential talent and planning to flip them for a profit in a few years. When you look at how many young players we have signed there just isn't going to be room for half of them.  Most of the players signed in the last year or 2 won't play the first team in next couple of years, if ever. Meanwhile the current team needs strengthening if we are to improve on the last couple of seasons and make top 4. Yet there seems to be no interest in signing players of that type.

We definitely seem to be modeling ourselves on Brighton. Basically, becoming a selling club to make a lot of money for the shareholders.

I’ve figured out how Todd Bully, Svengali Egbhali and their Clearfake backers  plan to develop all the unknown young players they are stockpiling and avoid any future sanctions from the EPL, FA , UEFA, FIFA and Uncle Tom Cobbly and All ; and if I’m correct with my theory looks like a lot more players will be coming through the door not out the door as we had presumed, very soon. 

Clearfake are planning on forming their very own break away league. Currently we have enough players for 5 teams with one old school style sub each,  before any of you try and pick holes in it there are at least 5 goalies in the current squad 😂
 

 

5 hours ago, General said:

I’ve figured out how Todd Bully, Svengali Egbhali and their Clearfake backers  plan to develop all the unknown young players they are stockpiling and avoid any future sanctions from the EPL, FA , UEFA, FIFA and Uncle Tom Cobbly and All ; and if I’m correct with my theory looks like a lot more players will be coming through the door not out the door as we had presumed, very soon. 

Clearfake are planning on forming their very own break away league. Currently we have enough players for 5 teams with one old school style sub each,  before any of you try and pick holes in it there are at least 5 goalies in the current squad 😂
 

 

This is the greed they speak of in the bible. 

2 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

This is the greed they speak of in the bible. 

Don't tell me we're after Jesus as well. Navas or Gabriel

2 minutes ago, WhiteWall said:

Don't tell me we're after Jesus as well. Navas or Gabriel

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news/jesus-christ-plays-for-chelsea-that-s-what-one-in-five-children-think-9917986.html

We already signed him apparently!

8 hours ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news/jesus-christ-plays-for-chelsea-that-s-what-one-in-five-children-think-9917986.html

We already signed him apparently!

If this is true, is injury now the wine and our players the water? 

4 hours ago, BluesMadLad said:

If this is true, is injury now the wine and our players the water? 

In our case we get water converted into whine 😉

Anyone on here working in the city care to explain how the club's owners financial prediction model before they bought the club will have changed over the last two years? My understanding that financial models made in offices ahead of a purchase rarely come to fruition... even when variables are taken into account. What can we expect over the next 18 months without CL revenue or a successful team? 

It has to all work this season, it really does or it looks bleak... Im going to cling to any little ray of sunshine on the pitch. 

8 minutes ago, bluetrooper said:

Anyone on here working in the city care to explain how the club's owners financial prediction model before they bought the club will have changed over the last two years? My understanding that financial models made in offices ahead of a purchase rarely come to fruition... even when variables are taken into account. What can we expect over the next 18 months without CL revenue or a successful team? 

It has to all work this season, it really does or it looks bleak... Im going to cling to any little ray of sunshine on the pitch. 

I read something in the NY times ( I think) that the valuation of the club has increased by £50 million since it was sold .

Todd said that PL clubs are undervalued when they bought us.

Basically they've bought a large property in central London which will be worth more in time .

To while away the time they are using the club's money to play soccer ball.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

19 hours ago, forbzy said:

In our case we get water converted into whine 😉

Of water into milk stout.

30 minutes ago, The Rising Sun said:

I read something in the NY times ( I think) that the valuation of the club has increased by £50 million since it was sold .

Todd said that PL clubs are undervalued when they bought us.

Basically they've bought a large property in central London which will be worth more in time .

To while away the time they are using the club's money to play soccer ball.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So you pay a fortune for the club, spend a Billion plus on unproven young duds, whose transfer value has probably deprecated based on form as shown on the pitch, yet the book value of the club has increased-,despite no Champions League and the threat of sanctions like a train coming down the track as a result of alleged financial irregularities. My tiny brain, can’t figure this out?

Not disputing what your read in the NYT, just confirmation of personal bafflement over the logistics of football finance

51 minutes ago, Timmy Elms said:

Not disputing what your read in the NYT, just confirmation of personal bafflement over the logistics of football finance

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5558822/2024/06/13/chelsea-valuation-analysis/

I was wrong.

We're worth £500 million more, not £50m !

1 hour ago, The Rising Sun said:

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5558822/2024/06/13/chelsea-valuation-analysis/

I was wrong.

We're worth £500 million more, not £50m !

As a comparable the Chicago Cubs are one of the most highly valued baseball franchises. But apart from one World Series win in 2016, they have rarely achieved much over the last 100+ years. Then again baseball doesn't have relegation.

5 hours ago, The Rising Sun said:

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5558822/2024/06/13/chelsea-valuation-analysis/

I was wrong.

We're worth £500 million more, not £50m !

It sounds impressive until you realise how such 'valuations' are calculated. We paid £89m for Mudryk so on paper the club increased its asset balance by £89m at the time. That's the only number that matters to Clearlake and their lenders.

In reality we've spent £1.2b and only increased the value of the club by £500m because those assets have heavily depreciated and most are worth significantly less than what we paid for them. So much for the billionaire genius

Edited July 31, 20241 yr by SydneyChelsea

That Musk geyser has been quoted as one of the richest people in the world for a long while now, despite Tesla only operating in profit, ten years after inception, three years back. Similarities to us, valuation based on future projections. Looks like another South Sea Bubble that could well go bandy

13 minutes ago, Timmy Elms said:

That Musk geyser has been quoted as one of the richest people in the world for a long while now, despite Tesla only operating in profit, ten years after inception, three years back. Similarities to us, valuation based on future projections. Looks like another South Sea Bubble that could well go bandy

Stock value is what someone hopes somebody else might pay for it. You only discover true value when someone actually sells!

My biggest worry is that no matter how bad Blueco are now, whomever they sell to next will be infinitely worse because they will be caught holding the bag as the market collapses.

8 hours ago, forbzy said:

As a comparable the Chicago Cubs are one of the most highly valued baseball franchises. But apart from one World Series win in 2016, they have rarely achieved much over the last 100+ years. Then again baseball doesn't have relegation.

That's one of the keys. NFL, baseball and basketball aren't comparable in any way to football. They are multi-multi-multi-billion dollar franchises operating within closed shops. 

10 hours ago, SydneyChelsea said:

It sounds impressive until you realise how such 'valuations' are calculated. We paid £89m for Mudryk so on paper the club increased its asset balance by £89m at the time. That's the only number that matters to Clearlake and their lenders.

In reality we've spent £1.2b and only increased the value of the club by £500m because those assets have heavily depreciated and most are worth significantly less than what we paid for them. So much for the billionaire genius

You must be wrong. Some people tell me that what matter for Clearlake is building a competitive team not increasing the value of the team/player while keeping the cost low. 

5 hours ago, dermott said:

That's one of the keys. NFL, baseball and basketball aren't comparable in any way to football. They are multi-multi-multi-billion dollar franchises operating within closed shops. 

Totally agreed. This approach might work in such a sport with no relegation, as long as the club is marketable and has a good location. But it is not adoptable in the Premier League.

FIFA's new loan rules mean we can only loan out 6 players in a given season now. Notably this total does exclude players 21 and under, and also players that came through our academy. But if you look at the stockpiling of young players currently that means we will have to offload a decent number in the years ahead or risk having a bloated U23 team.  For example Veiga was just signed and will likely go out on loan this year. He is 21 currently so will not count towards the 6 allowed. But if we want to send him on loan 2025-26 season he will have to be one of the 6 allowed. I would anticipate that a decent percentage of these signings barely feature for our first team and are sold on in a few years. Presumably the aim being to generate profit like they did with Omari Hutchinson.

50 minutes ago, forbzy said:

FIFA's new loan rules mean we can only loan out 6 players in a given season now. Notably this total does exclude players 21 and under, and also players that came through our academy. But if you look at the stockpiling of young players currently that means we will have to offload a decent number in the years ahead or risk having a bloated U23 team.  For example Veiga was just signed and will likely go out on loan this year. He is 21 currently so will not count towards the 6 allowed. But if we want to send him on loan 2025-26 season he will have to be one of the 6 allowed. I would anticipate that a decent percentage of these signings barely feature for our first team and are sold on in a few years. Presumably the aim being to generate profit like they did with Omari Hutchinson.

Won’t be too sure about this. He is the ideal Maresca player IMO; 6ft 2, can play as a LB, CB & DM. He also said yesterday that he is trying to find a role for Chilwell, which means he is up for sale. That opens up a space for Veiga. 

I reckon they will struggle to sell most of these players unless they are loaned within the PL which is extremely difficult. No PL team is paying big money for a Ligue 1 player unless they are exceptional. The big money signings happen in the PL and they have paid 3x-5x, and in Mike Penders case 15x their worth. That is why presently there are no offers for Casadei & Datro Fofana even though they are up for sale.

10 minutes ago, ducavis said:

Won’t be too sure about this. He is the ideal Maresca player IMO; 6ft 2, can play as a LB, CB & DM. He also said yesterday that he is trying to find a role for Chilwell, which means he is up for sale. That opens up a space for Veiga. 

I reckon they will struggle to sell most of these players unless they are loaned within the PL which is extremely difficult. No PL team is paying big money for a Ligue 1 player unless they are exceptional. The big money signings happen in the PL and they have paid 3x-5x, and in Mike Penders case 15x their worth. That is why presently there are no offers for Casadei & Datro Fofana even though they are up for sale.

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4 hours ago, ducavis said:

Won’t be too sure about this. He is the ideal Maresca player IMO; 6ft 2, can play as a LB, CB & DM. He also said yesterday that he is trying to find a role for Chilwell, which means he is up for sale. That opens up a space for Veiga. 

I reckon they will struggle to sell most of these players unless they are loaned within the PL which is extremely difficult. No PL team is paying big money for a Ligue 1 player unless they are exceptional. The big money signings happen in the PL and they have paid 3x-5x, and in Mike Penders case 15x their worth. That is why presently there are no offers for Casadei & Datro Fofana even though they are up for sale.

You could be right about Veiga but I imagine it is dependent on Chilwell's position.

The loan rules are probably a big reason behind the efforts to offload D. Fofana and Casadei. Both are 21 and are close to the age where they will impacted by loan limitation rules.