We’ve caused our own problems here and haven’t looked great but it is fantastic how reactionary people can be in this place 😂😂

Sure, it’s worth raising questions about the performance levels and the suitability of the play style based on existing evidence. But let’s not go writing off signings and seasons based off of a fairly even first half, which happened to start off with 5 minutes of sh*te

Am I the only one who think we didn’t do that bad?

Yeah we look really open but we have sweeped it up most of the time… and I like some of the one touch passing.

I think give the manager and team time. I can see promising signs. 

Just now, Scott Harris said:

Then maybe we should stop signing players that are so noticeably poor and such a massive downgrade on what we had before. Koulibaly, Badiashile, Cucurella, Disasi, Fofana, none of them can actually defend, Tosin looks a similar type of player. Gusto is the only defender they have signed that is good, and it's the attacking part of his game that is the impressive part.

I'm just saying give the lad at least a few actual games, the speed at people wanting to write off new signings is astounding. 10 years ago you'd all have laughed at such scrutiny on new players and new tactics in pre-season, now fans can't write players off quick enough.

5 minutes ago, Hessleboink said:

I just don't get Enzo - he doesn't get enough goals or assists to make up for his lack of pace. He's like a pound shop Fabregas. Hope we swap him with Nkunku and bring on Guiu. 

Hopefully Maresca will say Enzo can't justify playing #10 because he's sh*te and can't hit a barn door. Connor twice the player.

Just now, Niall1905 said:

We’ve caused our own problems here and haven’t looked great but it is fantastic how reactionary people can be in this place 😂😂

Sure, it’s worth raising questions about the performance levels and the suitability of the play style based on existing evidence. But let’s not go writing off signings and seasons based off of a fairly even first half, which happened to start off with 5 minutes of sh*te

It's hardly reactionary when we haven't seen a good Chelsea defence in years now.

2 minutes ago, timetowaste said:

Apart from the sh*t first 5 minutes it's been a pretty even game, but as previously mentioned some of the players playing out of position isn't working.

Half the team is playing out of position ... Poch would have been crucified for that by now LOL.

Starting to wonder if Maresca is trying to be too "clever" for his own good ... 

2 minutes ago, Scott Harris said:

Then maybe we should stop signing players that are so noticeably poor and such a massive downgrade on what we had before. Koulibaly, Badiashile, Cucurella, Disasi, Fofana, none of them can actually defend, Tosin looks a similar type of player. Gusto is the only defender they have signed that is good, and it's the attacking part of his game that is the impressive part.

Fofana was a risky signing because of his injury issues, and we've barely seen him play. Not sure he will ever return to the level he was at before injuries. Harsh on Cucurella who has improved after a terrible first season. 

The start was just a joke, so not going to comment further on that.

Having Lavia, Caicedo, Enzo and KDH all on at the same time and sacrificing a winger does not look like a good idea. Makes us slow on the transition. Should ideally only be 2 of them at the same time with a real left winger, Nkunku in the 10 and Gusto inverting.

Mudryk not looking good on the right. Usually doesn’t when having to run at the opposition. He’s better at running in behind.

Just now, forbzy said:

Fofana was a risky signing because of his injury issues, and we've barely seen him play. Not sure he will ever return to the level he was at before injuries. Harsh on Cucurella who has improved after a terrible first season. 

It's not harsh on Cucurella, because defensively, he's still a disaster. 

2 minutes ago, Scott Harris said:

It's hardly reactionary when we haven't seen a good Chelsea defence in years now.

It is reactionary, we’re 3 and a half games into pre season. We’ve looked sh*t in places, we’ve looked good in places.

We haven’t seen a good Chelsea team in years let alone a defence, but I’m not going to start saying this team is sh*t before they’ve played a meaningful game. 

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Just now, Sexyfootball said:

Half the team is playing out of position ... Poch would have been crucified for that by now LOL.

Starting to wonder if Maresca is trying to be too "clever" for his own good ... 

Or maybe he's using pre-season for what it's intended on doing, trying new things out and trying to get players fit. If we fielded this team in these positions in a league game I'd be livid.

14 minutes ago, Vialli96 said:

Tosin reminds me of Djilobodji. Michael Hector, Ben Haim

What part of Djilobodji’s 2 minutes during injury time and Hectors zero minutes reminds you of Tosin?

We’ve struggled finding passes out from the back which can be expected with new players and system.  Once we’ve moved the ball out from the back I’ve liked the way we’ve moved the ball through midfield.  Just not working up front.  
 

If it wasn’t for the disaster first 5 minutes it would have been pretty even.  Quite a few creases to iron out but it’s not end of the world unfixable.

Well lets see what the second half brings

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Just now, Niall1905 said:

It is reactionary, we’re 3 and a half games into pre season. We’ve looked sh*t in places, we’ve looked good in places.

We seen a good Chelsea team in years let alone a defence, but I’m not going to start saying this team is sh*t before they’ve played a meaningful game. 

It's not so much the team is sh*t, but the CB's are. We're basically relying on Colwill's potential, because none of the others are top 6 defenders.

2 minutes ago, DarkMata said:

We’ve struggled finding passes out from the back which can be expected with new players and system.  Once we’ve moved the ball out from the back I’ve liked the way we’ve moved the ball through midfield.  Just not working up front.  
 

If it wasn’t for the disaster first 5 minutes it would have been pretty even.  Quite a few creases to iron out but it’s not end of the world unfixable.

Beyond the 2 goal giveaway it has been pretty even. But we still don't have an obvious striker.

Madueke on and immediately our right side looks more potent

1 minute ago, timetowaste said:

Or maybe he's using pre-season for what it's intended on doing, trying new things out and trying to get players fit. If we fielded this team in these positions in a league game I'd be livid.

He's got 4 actual wingers on the bench, so, while I get your point, I think it's just plain daft playing a midfielder on the wing ahead of all 4 of them ... 

And the whole world and his dog knows Enzo is sh*te as an attacking midfielder as well ... 

1 minute ago, Scott Harris said:

It's not so much the team is sh*t, but the CB's are. We're basically relying on Colwill's potential, because none of the others are top 6 defenders.

You’ve written Tosin and Fofana off without them playing any notable minutes.

Sick of this Nkunku at ST bollocks 

2 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

He's got 4 actual wingers on the bench, so, while I get your point, I think it's just plain daft playing a midfielder on the wing ahead of all 4 of them ... 

And the whole world and his dog knows Enzo is sh*te as an attacking midfielder as well ... 

Or you know, maybe he’s using it to get minutes into legs of players who need it. 

lets try and remeber this is pre season, not every decision is done with winning this game in mind. I doubt he’s tactically shifted his system to win this game, so he’s either trying something that hasn’t worked or he wants minutes in their legs (or not in the legs of the wingers)

Team looks gassed aswell whereas surprise surprise Cityg so much fitter and sharper. 

Not hitting the panic button yet... but... if EM wants to play this style of football (play out from back, possession stuff) he obv hasn't watched our previous attempts. We simply do not have the calibre of player to do this. Not one of our CB has the foot skills or speed of thought to play out without a proper fu happening every game - and any of the goalkeepers from last season? Well don't make me laugh. 3-0 now.. ffs

Players look out on there feet 

That was real bad.