9 hours ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

The lack of self awareness is astonishing, look at the responses from almost every poster about your idiocy. Feel free to DM, makes no difference to me whether you’re shamed in public or private.

18 hours ago, dkw said:

It's blatantly AI generated isn't it, how pathetic is that 🤣

And what a shock, he demands a reply then waves one off. Next step is the victim hood, then a strop, then leaves the forum in the usual less than dignified way...

4 hours ago, dkw said:

I'll check his posts tomorrow at work, there's little things people use to try and hide AI posts, blank prompts etc. But they always leave markers.

You are proving my point here. You are both here causing toxicity towards posters with different viewpoints, just as the toxicity you are spreading towards the club. Do you understand that bragging about people stropping, being victims and leaving forums proves that you are toxic (why is this happening around you)? Thank you on the self reflection that just flew over both of your head friends. That is indeed the lack of self awareness.

Checking my posts to find proof that I am using AI, shameful on your end. I'm sure you have better things to tend to on the job 😂 (Whatever keeps the toxicity going though right?!?)

Edited June 16, 20251 yr by Clown Lake

2 hours ago, Clown Lake said:

You are proving my point here. You are both here causing toxicity towards posters with different viewpoints, just as the toxicity you are spreading towards the club. Do you understand that bragging about people stropping, being victims and leaving forums proves that you are toxic (why is this happening around you)? Thank you on the self reflection that just flew over both of your head friends. That is indeed the lack of self awareness.

Checking my posts to find proof that I am using AI, shameful on your end. I'm sure you have better things to tend to on the job 😂 (Whatever keeps the toxicity going though right?!?)

Just reply to my bullet points rather than ducking it like a coward. DM's are also open like you wanted.

Don't come in here swinging your balls saying i won't reply to your genius level intellect after posting the most none-coherent word vomit then after getting a reply start playing the victim saying you're getting bullied. You're the anomaly here, everyone is of the same opinion of you.

Getting a bit of a Haze type of feeling to this new lad, quite a blue one....

14 hours ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

Just reply to my bullet points rather than ducking it like a coward. DM's are also open like you wanted.

Don't come in here swinging your balls saying i won't reply to your genius level intellect after posting the most none-coherent word vomit then after getting a reply start playing the victim saying you're getting bullied. You're the anomaly here, everyone is of the same opinion of you.

My answer still stands. I'll respond when you are done with the rage baiting. This is the level of communication you choose, crying off to your herd so they can run in here to bash others (trying to run them off the forum) because you can't muster a rational response to different opinions. 😁

11 hours ago, dkw said:

Getting a bit of a Haze type of feeling to this new lad, quite a blue one....

Very nice. Strop strop. Hope you had a productive work day!

Edited June 16, 20251 yr by Clown Lake

Ah bluehaze, you keep making a complete dick of yourself, stropping off, then coming back with a new name. I mean it's flattering that you obviously love us so much....

2 hours ago, Clown Lake said:

My answer still stands. I'll respond when you are done with the rage baiting. This is the level of communication you choose, crying off to your herd so they can run in here to bash others (trying to run them off the forum) because you can't muster a rational response to different opinions. 😁

Very nice. Strop strop. Hope you had a productive work day!

Being scared of bullet points is crazy

54 minutes ago, dkw said:

Ah bluehaze, you keep making a complete dick of yourself, stropping off, then coming back with a new name. I mean it's flattering that you obviously love us so much....

What are you saying here? Im the one being hazed here friend. First you falsely accuse me that I am using AI because it’s obviously inconceivable someone makes thoughtful arguments instead of the baiting/trolling you two have been on, but now I am also hazing you both?

You're salivating at the thought of the strop and my “eventual” logging off from your herding gang ups! Shepherd with the sheep and all!

31 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

Being scared of bullet points is crazy

Not making rage baiting, but putting actual thoughts behind your bullets is indeed, “crazy”.

Anyways, private message me if you want to have an actual conversation and not the show off sessions you're having here for your buddies. Your showing has been on par with Mudryk 😉

Edited June 16, 20251 yr by Clown Lake

Pivot

8 hours ago, Clown Lake said:

someone makes thoughtful arguments

You surely can't be talking about the 1500 words of none coherent rambling that the entire forum told you was a piece of sh*t haha the lack of self awareness is astonishing

My thoughts are below each bullet point

On 15/06/2025 at 06:16, Ukraine Bolt said:

• Bloat has a set definition, not whatever you want to try and claim it means. Under Roman there were no instances of players having to get changed in corridors or managers complaining about having too many players to train with.

Bloat indeed does have a set definition. Isn’t it something to with excess digestive gas ?

I agree nothing akin to Potters comments were ever reported during the period of RAs ownership. The increase in the numbers of allowable substitute’s in 23 in some respects increased the numbers of players HCs had to work with and we have heard from other HCs such as Pep and Kloop they were are unhappy with the numbers they have been asked to work with.

Bearing in mind that there over 15 changing rooms at Cobham I find it all a little strange that players changed in “ corridors “ But hey there was no doubt that the 5 additional players that were recruited in the one window that Potter was in situ increased squad size to levels unseen at Chelsea and yes too high . One interesting fact when Potter left Brighton in Sept 2008 the squad at Chelsea was smaller than the one he left at Brighton and after the Jan 23 window Chelsea’s squad was one bigger. Source transfer market

• All your points are hypotheticals. a 22 year old winger who 'CAN' develop into 3 times their value. This is rarely happening, Palmer is arguably the only example. Clearlake managed to sell all these expensive failures we owned that you say are impossible to sell. All their biggest transfer sales are Roman era players.

It’s very difficult to gain any true perspective at this point in time as to the true success or otherwise of Blue Cos financial success re transfers. Yes it is true to say that all the biggest transfers are Roman era players but likewise it’s true to say that the biggest financial write downs are Roman Era players.

Irrespective save Edens transfer the most profitable transfers have come about from selling academy players

• Leaders don't slow down transition, they continue tradition. Chelsea had a tradition of winning, i don't doubt for a second we would have given up so spectacularly in previous seasons under Clearlake if some of that experience was kept around in the short term and bred through the new players. During year 1 of RAs tenure the club made in transfer income €200k.Year 2€3.3million. None of those players were RA signings.

It starts to get interesting in year 3 ( 5/6) because in terms of fees 4 of the 5 players sold in that year were RA signings : Smertin, Tiago, Parker & Kezman. Save Kezman where there was a small profit of €1. 5 million or 20% of original fee the others Tiago lost 33%, Parker35% Smertin 30%. I would have worked the numbers to factor in amortisation but I know most don’t want to hear that number.

The other player sold in that year was Forsell a Bates signing where his fee was €4.5 million. He arrived on a free!

Leaders are many things. From empowering to facilitating change . Yes some continue tradition others dont. I too would have been happier had some of the older established players had been kept around but we have absolutely no idea how matters would have panned out had not just in the past but also going forward.

• Auba might have been a stop gap but their long term symbol you mention to lead the line in 3 years of ownership have then been Datro Fofana, Washington, Jackson, Guiu. Which only now signed Delap so jury is out to see how things pan out.

PEA was an experienced player who was like the other experienced and then current international starting players ( Sterling and Kouilably) bought in by BlueCo were absolute disasters.

I am far from a fan of Jackson but he definitely was bought in as a starter and his numbers in his first two seasons of scoring 30 in 79 is not a million miles away from Drogbas first two season of 32 in 82.

When you the look around at other clubs in the who bought players in to “ lead the line” not sure many others have had great success which sort of suggests that their isn’t a glut of players out there capable of doing the job over the same period.

• You're flip flopping with the Enzo argument. You've just spent 600 words explaining the owners plan is to buy young and cheap and develop into a player they can profit on if they need to in future. Enzo alone completely counters your own argument. Also, tight control? Have you watched enzo? Takes his 3 touches to trap a ball usually. His long range passing is good but every manager has seen his deficiencies at the back and moved him away for damage control .

Enzo wasn’t realistically bought as a developing player he was bought to be a starter from day one . There is no doubt we paid top dollar plus for him. I think you are being a little harsh re your overall assessment of him. I actually don’t see him as being long term at the club I think he will be off to Spain.But that’s just like many things in football an opinion

• OMG Sanchez revisionism in 2025 is insane. At no point was 27M for Brighton's THIRD choice keeper, who was dropped for not being good enough, a well thought out deal. It was clearly a transfer to please Ben Roberts.

Think you’re making a couple of things up here.

First Sanchez didn’t cost either €27 million or £27million it was more like £20 million.

Next he was never Brightons 3rd choice. Him and Steele were either starter or on the bench for every PL game Brighton played in 22/23. The only time Sanchez didn’t feature was at the end of that season when he missed 5 games through injury.

Yes Sanchez was replaced by Steele as that season progressed but here’s the respective stats for PL games Steele/ Sanchez

Played Won Drew Lost Goals Against Pts per game Goals Against per game

Brighton 38 18 8 12 53 1.63 1.4

Steele 15 6 3 6 24 1.40 1.6

Sanchez 23 12 5 6 29 1.78 1.2

There’s absolutely no doubt that as the season progressed that Sanchez became number 2 but based on the stats was he ?

• If we noticed this superstar rise that Palmer was about to have why did we have multiple other targets we pursued and only fell back on Palmer on the last day of the transfer window? Or was the entire summer a masterplan smoke screen to force Pep into selling?

Don’t think City initially had any plans to sell Palmer nor I suspect did his agents give any hint to other clubs that Palmer wanted out but after the CWC , Charity Shield and the first couple of games I think that Palmer saw the writing on the wall and it was he that initiated the move.

• RB Leipzig, who have never won a league title shouldn't be an inspiration. We're a football club, the aim is to win. There's no trophy for best net spend at the end of the year. I didn't say City don't buy youth, i said they don't rely solely on youth. Every squad they have is littered with winners and experience. They blood in a couple of youngsters a year to learn from the winners. Foden is a great example, i glad you brought him up. He's had years to learn from KDB, D.Silva, B.Silva etc. and has gained the winning experience from sharing the pitch with them throughout his formative years. Who has Jackson had to learn from since we signed him?

RB Leipzig have only been in existence for 16 years . To say they have never won the BL1 is correct but during their rise to the highest league they have actually won leagues. Since they were promoted there have only been 3 different BL winners and of course Bayern have dominated.The others were Leveerkersen and Dortmund on the odd occasion. An incredibly difficult target to finish above Bayern.

• I'll be repeating myself on the Courtois point. Re-read what i said before. Most wanted Courtois back after a year at Madrid and that was when we had Prime Cech. Petrovic has been the standout player with a similar development and is coming back to challenge one of the worst first choice goalkeepers in our recent history,

Courtois had three seasons on loan at AM. The first was 2011/12 . As we know we one the CL and FA Cup in 2011/12 with Cech in goal. Sorry I can’t remember anyone wanting Courtois to replace Cech in 12/13. Even after the 3rd season most of us were conflicted it was only a brave call for Jose that saw him become number one.

• The club no longer exists on a merry go round of managers lol. We've had 6 managers in 3 seasons. We had 17 in 19 years under Roman.

Yep far too many

Tuchal was never going to be long term and yes rumours are rumours but if the ones I heard are correct he was always going to be moved on. Potter didn’t live up close to his hype and if you listen to WHU supporters they by and large wish he never had shipped up there. Bruno was no more than cover for a few games.Frank was bought in to see out the season. Poch was a strange appointment in the first place and had he stayed who knows what would have happened and Maresca as most agree we are far from convinced.

• Your posts are anti-intellectual.

Sort of an ironic comment

Edited June 17, 20251 yr by terraloon

On 14/06/2025 at 19:01, Sexyfootball said:

Do you ?

Perfectly apt word seeing as the majority of posters on here think S&W are both absolutely crap !

We could always change the thread title to one of the synonyms LOL

• Our very bad directors

• Our poor directors

• Our dreadful directors

• Our awful directors

• Our terrible directors

• Our frightful directors

Missed this one but use of the term “diabolical directors “ isn’t the word diabolical an adjective?

1 minute ago, terraloon said:

Missed this one but use of the term “diabolical directors “ isn’t the word diabolical an adjective?

Yes it is.

Nice to see you have a good grasp of the English language as well as accountancy !

34 minutes ago, terraloon said:

Missed this one but use of the term “diabolical directors “ isn’t the word diabolical an adjective?

5 hours ago, Sexyfootball said:

Yes it is.

Nice to see you have a good grasp of the English language as well as accountancy !

Go back to your post as to the definition of “ diabolical “

I don't see anybody but Liverpool winning the league again next season, especially if they get a striker. They are setting themselves up to dominate for years and we are banking on playing a waiting game with our young players. By the time they get to the point where they are ready to compete for league titles (if they ever get to that point) the next crop of young players will break through and be snapped up by the likes of Liverpool again.

Kerkez and Wirtz themselves are only 21 and 22. They are ready to compete for every title right now. So if the project is to buy young and wait for them to grow into great players, why aren't these clowns signing the very best young players like Kerkez and Wirtz instead of looking at players like Gittens?

5 minutes ago, Scott Harris said:

I don't see anybody but Liverpool winning the league again next season, especially if they get a striker. They are setting themselves up to dominate for years and we are banking on playing a waiting game with our young players. By the time they get to the point where they are ready to compete for league titles (if they ever get to that point) the next crop of young players will break through and be snapped up by the likes of Liverpool again.

Kerkez and Wirtz themselves are only 21 and 22. They are ready to compete for every title right now. So if the project is to buy young and wait for them to grow into great players, why aren't these clowns signing the very best young players like Kerkez and Wirtz instead of looking at players like Gittens?

Simple.

Horrible decision makers.

2 hours ago, terraloon said:

Go back to your post as to the definition of “ diabolical “

I'm sorry terraloon but I have absolutely no idea what point you are trying to make here ? Go back why ?

4 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

I'm sorry terraloon but I have absolutely no idea what point you are trying to make here ? Go back why ?

You copied and pasted a definition of diabolical

Look at it particularly when it mentions adjective

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2 hours ago, Mod said:

OMG Evissy has hacked Mod's account

9 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

I'm sorry terraloon but I have absolutely no idea what point you are trying to make here ? Go back why ?

Because he doesn't want to read the British, informal definition you posted for some reason.

14 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

Because he doesn't want to read the British, informal definition you posted for some reason.

Or you’re just not grasping what I am saying.

Yep that’s it.

2 hours ago, terraloon said:

You copied and pasted a definition of diabolical

Look at it particularly when it mentions adjective

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The 2nd definition under the heading adjective that Ukraine Bolt has already reiterated for you ?

What about it ?

Roll on the new season.

shameful what they have done to this club.. in days gone we had multiple UCL winners as backup to our starting 11 .. now we have a do key and a relegated player as striker.. totally 3 wingers in Madueke and Neto and a 19 year old academy lad..

Messed up on signing any reinforcement .. also sent back Sancho.. didn’t these fcks know what his wage demands were.. they sent a mockery of a squad for UCL

Egg on these geniuses and this ownership.. an utter embarrassment..