Star Posted October 25, 2010 Posted October 25, 2010 'The supporters are brilliant and I can't wait to experience the atmosphere on a big European night in the future. The atmosphere was brilliant and that's why I signed for this club.' Yet another quote from a bloke said to be a Chelsea fan from birth. Since he left, he has never once thanked Chelsea fans for their brilliant support during times that were sometimes hard for Joe to accept, either being out of the side or on the treatment table. I for one, have met Joe and his dad in the past, never once did Joe falter in saying how much he loved Chelsea and stories of how he stood with his mates at the 1997 Cup Final etc etc. His dad was honest enough to say he disliked Chelsea for he was a Spud. He will never get the support of the Liverpool faithful in the way he did at Chelsea, yet he continues to bleat on about Liverpool their fans and ancient history! I'm going up to Anfield, like when Durie left, Poyet went to Spuds and kissed their badge, i'm going to give Joe the stick he deserves. True blue? Never on your nelly ... this bloke is a disgrace to the true name of Chelsea football club. I always felt he was a good player, but true Chelsea greats have left and shown respect for us fans, as in the main we always do for them when they return to the Bridge. Better players than Joe, like Pat Nevin and David Speedie have left here for merseyside and conceded our support was unbeatable for them personally and the team. Joey Jones and Mickey Thomas are legends who played for us after Liverpool and Man Utd and always had respect for us fans. Joe Cole should bow his head in shame when he comes anywhere near us in the future. Anyone who can get inspired by a fat Gerry Marsden singing you'll never walk alone is one sad f**k!
Tea Bar Boy Posted October 25, 2010 Posted October 25, 2010 (edited) Bit harsh Star . Any new player at a club is hardly going to come out and not try and win the fans over at a new club. He’s not going to come out and admit “I am here for the money , I could have gone to Rottenham but you lot offered me more and I was more or less going to be a starter week in week out cos your squad is a f*ckin joke and Man Utd and Le Arse or a number of top European team never came knocking at my door “. It’s like when the FA Cup comes round and every overseas player and there dog “ always watched the final at home when I was a kid “ quotes that come out. He hasn’t played against us yet or had the chance to speak about us fans so until then I have an open mind. If in the week before the match or he makes any show of disrespect on the pitch then he is fair game . I still think Joe’s biggest problem is that he thinks he is a bigger better player than he is Edited October 25, 2010 by Tea Bar Boy
OLE Posted October 25, 2010 Posted October 25, 2010 did like him but man some games he did nothing at all.
Gem Posted October 25, 2010 Posted October 25, 2010 I'm ashamed of myself, but I agree with Star. When Sidwell left he made great mention of his time here - explained just training with our players, especially Lampard, improved him so much as a player. Didn't need to say it - only been here and year and never played... I dunno. I feel let down by Joe but I don't really have decent reason to, I feel like a litle child but he's nothing to me. It'll be interesting to see what he says after his playing days are over.
PloKoon13 Posted October 25, 2010 Posted October 25, 2010 Anyone who can get inspired by a fat Gerry Marsden singing you'll never walk alone is one sad f**k! I completely agree. I saw the preamble to the Liverpool game and thought it was pathetic at worst and laughable at best. What a poor excuse for a football club.
Nibs Posted October 25, 2010 Posted October 25, 2010 Turncoat and disgrace? That's Completely over the top and some! Not even sure why anyone would want to start a new thread on this subject - it's been well covered in at least one other. I'd like to think, Joe will take the time to go and applaud our supporters both at Anfield and when he comes to Stamford Bridge. I'm certain he will. Other than that, what on earth is there to get worked up about? Like most players, whilst they are playing for us and all is going well and we are paying their wages, we're the greatest club there is. They move to another (big) club and then they are the best club. He's at Liverp**l where he will probably now see out his career and they are paying him sh*t loads of cash a week. He's hardly gonna say "It's rubbish here - I still love Chelsea". He's moved on - I suggest we do.
Maksimov Posted October 25, 2010 Posted October 25, 2010 It'll be interesting to see what he says after his playing days are over. He won plenty of silverware while he was at Chelsea and he was a fan favorite, so I doubt he can have too many bad memories about the time as a whole. He probably felt he deserved to play more and deserved a bigger salary, but at the moment I'm more concerned about Chelsea's next match than what Joe Cole thinks or will think about his time at Chelsea.
Chippy Posted October 25, 2010 Posted October 25, 2010 Turncoat and disgrace? That's Completely over the top and some! Not even sure why anyone would want to start a new thread on this subject - it's been well covered in at least one other. I'd like to think, Joe will take the time to go and applaud our supporters both at Anfield and when he comes to Stamford Bridge. I'm certain he will. Other than that, what on earth is there to get worked up about? Like most players, whilst they are playing for us and all is going well and we are paying their wages, we're the greatest club there is. They move to another (big) club and then they are the best club. He's at Liverp**l where he will probably now see out his career and they are paying him sh*t loads of cash a week. He's hardly gonna say "It's rubbish here - I still love Chelsea". He's moved on - I suggest we do. Saved me some typing
sizzler85 Posted October 25, 2010 Posted October 25, 2010 Too harsh on joe cole ... He did not disgrace us .. just wanted to win over the liverpool fans ... can't blame him for this !
bluegraham Posted October 25, 2010 Posted October 25, 2010 well said star, joe cole was welled looked after at chelsea when he was injured. all joe had to say is thank you to chelsea and im sure we would hsve giving him our blessing. i said for a long time if cole was'nt english he wud be gone from chelseaa along time ago. well done star.
Dorset Posted October 25, 2010 Posted October 25, 2010 Bit harsh Star . Any new player at a club is hardly going to come out and not try and win the fans over at a new club. He’s not going to come out and admit “I am here for the money , I could have gone to Rottenham but you lot offered me more and I was more or less going to be a starter week in week out cos your squad is a f*ckin joke and Man Utd and Le Arse or a number of top European team never came knocking at my door “. It’s like when the FA Cup comes round and every overseas player and there dog “ always watched the final at home when I was a kid “ quotes that come out. He hasn’t played against us yet or had the chance to speak about us fans so until then I have an open mind. If in the week before the match or he makes any show of disrespect on the pitch then he is fair game . I still think Joe’s biggest problem is that he thinks he is a bigger better player than he is His current overstated enthusiasm for all things Scouse is more likely based his own insecurity than any real belief in what he’s actually saying - we’re all having a bit of a laugh at that because it’s such utter tripe. Joe has always been a player desperate to be loved, he hasn’t exactly started his time there in a blaze of glory, so out come the Merseyside platitudes at every opportunity. I think he already has regrets regarding his move and his constant enthusing over the bestest club on the planet is a reassurance to him that’s akin to a comfort blanket. Ah, bless!!
Star Posted October 25, 2010 Author Posted October 25, 2010 What I would like to add, is the fact that I was one of Joe's biggest fans whilst he was here and defended him on many occasions. Also, in fairness to Tea Bar, who has provided me with food for thought, there is constructive comments for me to reflect on. I would like us all to remember the way in which he left West Ham and commented frequently about the great support he received from their fans and the fact he captained them was a great honour whilst saying he couldn't turn us down because he had supported Chelsea all his life. West Ham fans will never have a bad word to say about Joe, because in their minds he left them showing great respect. With Lamps they are bitter and twisted because they never rated him and he has gone on to be one of the best players of his generation. All I can say if he left West Ham showing dignity and honesty, after leaving us he should have done us twice the favour! My lasting memory of Joe would be kicking the ball about 20 mins after the end of our defeat in the San Siro, with us fans held back behind the fence singing "He's here he's there ... " We supported him to the end, not a word of honesty and acting with dignity is typical of a thieving scouser - perhaps he has found his home.
Valerie Posted October 25, 2010 Posted October 25, 2010 Such vitriol poured over a former Chelsea player... my my, what a waste of energy. And of vitriol. As Nibs said, move on! Get over it!
Star Posted October 25, 2010 Author Posted October 25, 2010 what a waste of energy It was sticking up for Joe on this these forums when he was here, singing his name when on the bench all over England and Europe ... all for him to through it back in the faces of passionate Chelsea followers like myself. Give me Joey Jones, Mickey Thomas, Mark Hughes, Gianfranco Zola, Pat Nevin and dare I say it Joe Allon any day of the week. Joe Allon for the record a lifelong Newcastle fan who on the day he signed for us said, Newcastle fans are the best on the planet, yet became an instant hero with a goal at the shed. Coley should have stuck to his Chelsea heritage and gained respect from the Scouse terraces through performance, unfortunately he has done neither. Give me Tommy Langley any day of the week, that's a real Chelsea fan from biirth.
loz Posted October 25, 2010 Posted October 25, 2010 I don't agree that it is a waste of energy. There is a huge emotional bond between fans and their club and it is just as natural to feel bitter about something as it is to feel happy about the good things that happen. I can understand where Star is coming from. I don't hate Joe or anything extreme like that however I do feel he has blotted his copybook. He did get a lot of support from CHelsea fans throughout his time with is, including through periods of erratic form, and all this scouse love in we are hearing from him (even if it is an attempt to placate Liverpool fans who are realising that depending on him is not a wise idea) is a bit of a kick in the teeth. Joe was a boyhood Chelsea fan and he was with us long enough to know the ill feeling between Chelsea and Liverpool so he is not exactly doing this from a position of ignorance.
dkw Posted October 25, 2010 Posted October 25, 2010 Has he actually got round to thanking the Chelsea fans for the backing he received, even when he was playing poorly?
Barry Bridges Posted October 25, 2010 Posted October 25, 2010 . He hasn’t played against us yet or had the chance to speak about us fans so until then I have an open mind. If in the week before the match or he makes any show of disrespect on the pitch then he is fair game . So when he left and had microphone after microphone in his face, which he used to talk up liverpool and their fans, that wasnt a chance to say " I just want to thank the fans for the fantastic support they gave me over the years however now I am excited to expereince the fans of Liverpool especially on their historic European nights!" See, notice how easy that was to give us a thank you/acknowledgement and still praise his pool supporters? He's hardly gonna say "It's rubbish here - I still love Chelsea". And no one asked him to. We just expect him to thank us. To return one single ounce of gratitude out of the tons and tons he received from us over the years. Im not mentioning any specific names here, but anybody who gets undieing support and devotion from the multidues of people paying him millions and millions whilst doing something he love and in many cases doing nothing but sitting on a treatment table.... well if that person can not be bothered to even say "thank you" at the end...well scum bag would be more than appropriate and probably not descriptive enough. When you look at the situation without placing names, its pretty clear how low class his actions have been. But as many mentioned, Im over it and cant be bothered to waste time on someone who is apparently to good for us now. Amazing how moving up in his mind really meant moving down about 18 places on the league table.
geezer Posted October 25, 2010 Posted October 25, 2010 Joe's problem is really that he is genuinely thick. I don't mean that to sound unkind but when it comes to applying common sense he'd be the one voted off first on the Weakest Link every time. That's why I can forgive him because he really doesn't have the brains to know any better bless him.
Tea Bar Boy Posted October 25, 2010 Posted October 25, 2010 So when he left and had microphone after microphone in his face, which he used to talk up liverpool and their fans, that wasnt a chance to say " I just want to thank the fans for the fantastic support they gave me over the years however now I am excited to expereince the fans of Liverpool especially on their historic European nights!" See, notice how easy that was to give us a thank you/acknowledgement and still praise his pool supporters? And no one asked him to. We just expect him to thank us. To return one single ounce of gratitude out of the tons and tons he received from us over the years. Looks like he did ? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/8834962.stm It is not financial and it is nothing to do with Carlo," Cole said at the time. "I love Carlo. I think he is a top guy and a top manager. "I loved my time at Chelsea, I love the fans but it is a story for another day and I will tell it but now is not the time."
Sheva Posted October 26, 2010 Posted October 26, 2010 This reminds me of Beckham going to LA Galaxy, with the intention that he's knows he's not gonna be taken seriously anymore and he just wants the money. He just wants to improve the imagine of football in a foriegn city where nobody has a clue. However Joe is currently failing in his mission due to his red card on his debut and getting a speeding ticket, sadly he's blending in with the crowd.
Chippy Posted October 26, 2010 Posted October 26, 2010 Looks like he did ? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/8834962.stm It is not financial and it is nothing to do with Carlo," Cole said at the time. "I love Carlo. I think he is a top guy and a top manager. "I loved my time at Chelsea, I love the fans but it is a story for another day and I will tell it but now is not the time." I said before I expect he'll let us know the full story after his career is finished in a book but for now his Goal against UTD last year that really made sure we were champions is enough for me.
BigIzz Posted October 26, 2010 Posted October 26, 2010 Sad to say but for the players it's a job. I'd like to say it'd be different if it were but would it? That said, Joey is gonna be waiting for a while if he is waiting for a big European night. Maybe he is planning to coach at Liverpool when his playing days are done?
jezza Posted October 26, 2010 Posted October 26, 2010 As others have said, Joe was a fans favourite when he was here, a golden boy who also supported us from the stands as a lad. We don't know the full story behind his departure and it was disappointing that he ended up at anfield, I try to tell myself that football is just a business these days, an agent infested cesspit where the only loyalty is to obscene pay packets, and that Joe is just part of this lamentable industry and therefore can't really be blamed for anything, but the bottom line is feeling physically ill when I see him in a l'pool shirt.
Nibs Posted October 26, 2010 Posted October 26, 2010 Joe's problem is really that he is genuinely thick. I don't mean that to sound unkind but when it comes to applying common sense he'd be the one voted off first on the Weakest Link every time. That's why I can forgive him because he really doesn't have the brains to know any better bless him. Unless Wayne Rooney was one of the other contestants!!
blizeH Posted October 26, 2010 Posted October 26, 2010 I can't wait to experience the atmosphere on a big European night in the future. The atmosphere was brilliant and that's why I signed for this club. Good luck with that Joe...
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