For f**k's sake

49 minutes ago, TheCeleryKing said:

Mason Mount is looking to leave United . . .AC Milan have an interest (they do like former Chelsea players at that club). Should we put in a sneaky bid for the lad? the lad who's all grown up now and yet it's always Frank Lampards voice i hear saying "Mason Mount". lol.

We got his best years. Injuries and burn out caught up with him. He'll appreciate the more leisurely Serie A.

37 minutes ago, PloKoon13 said:

For f**k's sake

But he is Pep.

On 28/06/2026 at 10:37, markpitts said:

I would be careful with the “get the manager who he wants”. If it goes tits up, manager gets paid to go away, and some unknown players on ridiculous contracts.

I am always wary of managers who want to play a back 3 and require specialist players. Remember that one year when Pep, Klopp and others used the back 3. They all abandoned it the season after.

I'd normally agree but when the alternative is having the five muppets spend another billion on utter dross and market opportunities I'm more than happy to give Alonso control.

18 minutes ago, yaz said:

I'd normally agree but when the alternative is having the five muppets spend another billion on utter dross and market opportunities I'm more than happy to give Alonso control.

Fair point. I do wonder though if our inability to pay big wages, and the state of our finances are forcing him to sanction some of these deals.

No top manager walks into a supposed “big club” with a list of targets including Chavarria, Lacroix, Xhaka and Palestra. The Wharton links have disappeared, and I reckon they spoke with his agents, heard his wage demands and switched to Xhaka.

5 minutes ago, markpitts said:

The Wharton links have disappeared, and I reckon they spoke with his agents, heard his wage demands and switched to Xhaka.

We need to sell Enzo first.

54 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

The game is gone.

No matter how much people hate Enzo Fernandez, it is silly to think BlueCo would let him leave for cheap in a market where Elliot Anderson goes for 130M and Mateus Fernandes for 85M.

1 hour ago, petre ispirescu said:

No matter how much people hate Enzo Fernandez, it is silly to think BlueCo would let him leave for cheap in a market where Elliot Anderson goes for 130M and Mateus Fernandes for 85M.

Bottom line, he’s worth what someone is willing to pay.

46 minutes ago, dermott said:

Bottom line, he’s worth what someone is willing to pay.

Are Madrid interested in paying that price though? This whole situation stems from Enzo demanding a new contract worth £350k/w, which the club isn’t interested in paying. I expect him to force the move, and probably hand in a transfer request after the World Cup. His argument would be that if you value at £120m, pay him like a £120m player. The Guimaraes situation at Newcastle is a precedent; Newcastle are offering him a new contract at £250k/w, and have just turned down a £60m offer from Arsenal.

2 hours ago, markpitts said:

Are Madrid interested in paying that price though? This whole situation stems from Enzo demanding a new contract worth £350k/w, which the club isn’t interested in paying. I expect him to force the move, and probably hand in a transfer request after the World Cup. His argument would be that if you value at £120m, pay him like a £120m player. The Guimaraes situation at Newcastle is a precedent; Newcastle are offering him a new contract at £250k/w, and have just turned down a £60m offer from Arsenal.

That's not a precedent.

If Enzo is a 120m player we will get an offer of 120m.

If we get an offer of 120m and turn it down, then he has the right to ask for more wages and hand in a transfer request.

But if we aren't getting big money offers, then he has to accept his place is here. And he needs to show the world he's worth it.

However I'm expecting that RM are waiting until after the world cup. Argentina have a strong chance of winning the thing. And if you're going to spunk 120m on a player, do it when he's won the world cup. That's what we did.

Eli Junior Kroupi [20] to Chelsea?

1 hour ago, TheCeleryKing said:

Eli Junior Kroupi [20] to Chelsea?

If we don't sell Fernandez we'll not buy anyone of any real monetary cost. It will continue to br b rated players, freebies, and cheaper oldies under the PR shroud of valuable experience.

It looks like another window of sell, buy and nothing really change.

8 hours ago, bisright1 said:

That's not a precedent.

If Enzo is a 120m player we will get an offer of 120m.

If we get an offer of 120m and turn it down, then he has the right to ask for more wages and hand in a transfer request.

But if we aren't getting big money offers, then he has to accept his place is here. And he needs to show the world he's worth it.

However I'm expecting that RM are waiting until after the world cup. Argentina have a strong chance of winning the thing. And if you're going to spunk 120m on a player, do it when he's won the world cup. That's what we did.

“Club sources confirm Real Madrid have cooled interest in signing Chelsea's World Cup-winning midfielder Enzo Fernández, despite links to new manager José Mourinho. No formal talks have started, with Madrid prioritizing player sales over the hefty fee, even as Fernández remains on a shortlist of five options.”

Perez isn’t giving us £120m, that much is certain. I reckon even if a move were to happen (highly doubt it), he would hand in a transfer request, and go on strike like Isak. £80m + add ons will be the sweet spot.

On 28/06/2026 at 22:37, markpitts said:

I would be careful with the “get the manager who he wants”. If it goes tits up, manager gets paid to go away, and some unknown players on ridiculous contracts.

I am always wary of managers who want to play a back 3 and require specialist players. Remember that one year when Pep, Klopp and others used the back 3. They all abandoned it the season after.

It all depend on who you sign as wb. Chilwell and James are fine playing as fb/wb. CB wise the only specialist that you don't want is ccb, it is very difficult to play a slow cb if you want to run man to man press.

Edited July 1Jul 1 by Bob stark

2 hours ago, markpitts said:

“Club sources confirm Real Madrid have cooled interest in signing Chelsea's World Cup-winning midfielder Enzo Fernández, despite links to new manager José Mourinho. No formal talks have started, with Madrid prioritizing player sales over the hefty fee, even as Fernández remains on a shortlist of five options.”

Perez isn’t giving us £120m, that much is certain. I reckon even if a move were to happen (highly doubt it), he would hand in a transfer request, and go on strike like Isak. £80m + add ons will be the sweet spot.

I think we have to take the bait and take a midfielder from them and play the amortisation game. Guler, arguably wouldn't be far off of Fernandez's fee and this mob desperately need some wonga. If they can get Camavinga and 60m, it would be a small amortised loss on Fernandez which will have to get swallowed up in the fire sale that we have to make.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Disasi come into the briefs pretty soon. With Struijk moving from Leeds to Brighton, they were supposedly interested in Disasi when WHU were still in the division. If we shift Disasi, along with Trev and George (as pure profits) then maybe that allows some wiggle room on Fernandez. But i am pretty sure we are going to have to take someone from them. As you say there is no way they are parting with that type of dough to us.

16 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Relegated twice in consecutive seasons with 2 different clubs, fingers crossed he makes it a treble.

33 minutes ago, DarkMata said:

Relegated twice in consecutive seasons with 2 different clubs, fingers crossed he makes it a treble.

He's a promising player, looked a class above the dross around him at WH, which possibly wasn't difficult. Regardless, the money is silly. We've gone beyond inflation to hyperinflation.

1 hour ago, DarkMata said:

Relegated twice in consecutive seasons with 2 different clubs, fingers crossed he makes it a treble.

What is interesting is Spurs are willing to pay big wages to go with the transfer fees, which our lot don’t want to. Xavi Simmons is on £200k/w, Gallagher £250k/w, and they have an agreement with Tonali at £200k/w. Won’t be surprised if targets start opting for Spurs as the 2nd prime option after Arsenal, since our lot are more interested in rummaging through the bargain bin.

22 minutes ago, markpitts said:

What is interesting is Spurs are willing to pay big wages to go with the transfer fees, which our lot don’t want to. Xavi Simmons is on £200k/w, Gallagher £250k/w, and they have an agreement with Tonali at £200k/w. Won’t be surprised if targets start opting for Spurs as the 2nd prime option after Arsenal, since our lot are more interested in rummaging through the bargain bin.

Paying top wages for average players is a recipe for disaster. On the other hand has there ever been a dominant serial winner that doesn't pay top wages?

4 hours ago, markpitts said:

“Club sources confirm Real Madrid have cooled interest in signing Chelsea's World Cup-winning midfielder Enzo Fernández, despite links to new manager José Mourinho. No formal talks have started, with Madrid prioritizing player sales over the hefty fee, even as Fernández remains on a shortlist of five options.”

Perez isn’t giving us £120m, that much is certain. I reckon even if a move were to happen (highly doubt it), he would hand in a transfer request, and go on strike like Isak. £80m + add ons will be the sweet spot.

4 hours ago, markpitts said:

“Club sources confirm Real Madrid have cooled interest in signing Chelsea's World Cup-winning midfielder Enzo Fernández, despite links to new manager José Mourinho. No formal talks have started, with Madrid prioritizing player sales over the hefty fee, even as Fernández remains on a shortlist of five options.”

Perez isn’t giving us £120m, that much is certain. I reckon even if a move were to happen (highly doubt it), he would hand in a transfer request, and go on strike like Isak. £80m + add ons will be the sweet spot.

Its not certain at all?

I can 100% imagine they'll find the money somehow, especially if Argentina go far.

He is welcome to hand in a transfer request. We are welcome to tell him he's free to go when the money is found.

These transfer fees are getting a little out of control. No saudi league to sell excess too. No real money in La Liga either. Is this bubble about to burst?