Very much mistaken then.

Great  - Thanks for the clarification!

You're welcome, it's what I'm here for :-)

Thank goodness nobody has asked me how to pronounce De Bruyne, I'm at a loss how to describe the pronunciation of uy. Don't know a comparable English word.

You're welcome, it's what I'm here for :-)

Thank goodness nobody has asked me how to pronounce De Bruyne, I'm at a loss how to describe the pronunciation of uy. Don't know a comparable English word.

Haha....check his thread...i asked 5 mins ago!

You're welcome, it's what I'm here for :-)

Thank goodness nobody has asked me how to pronounce De Bruyne, I'm at a loss how to describe the pronunciation of uy. Don't know a comparable English word.

 

yeah, someone has asked about pronunciation of de bruyne andi had no idea how to describe it

 

de broi-neh with a rolling 'r'?

 

but even de bruyne himself said that the pronunciation depends on whether a wallon or a flemish person is pronouncing it. wallons pronounce it so that it rhymes with ruin

Edited July 18, 201313 yr by Lane

No way am I calling De Bruyne De Brah-nuh. Effort bro.

Can anyone shed any light on how to say his name?

is the G hard like is guilty

soft like in in gin

or h like like in Gullit?

Any help appreciated!

Search for the video on chelseafc's youtube channel about his first interview. He present himself at the beginning of that.

It's a hard G, somewhat like loCH. Gullit has the same hard G, not at all an h like you suppose.

 

Here's a Dutch question that has bothered me for years.  As it's obviously correct to begin a sentence with a capital, would you begin a sentence starting with a Dutch surname with a capital?  I assume you do, but it always feels odd somehow.  

 

I.e: "Van Persie is a petulant twat."  Looking at it with a capitalised V just looks odd. 

 

Is the "van", "von" etc thing part of his surname or is it a middle name?  I wish I had a "van" in my name.  I feel it adds a measure of class.  

KDB's footwork is amazing, imagine him playing opposite hazard?

They're going to give defenders fits this year.

Also I haven't seen anything of van ginkel but he's getting rave reviews from the dutch, and they are pretty good at cranking out quality players.

 

Belgian is the new Dutch.

Here's a Dutch question that has bothered me for years. As it's obviously correct to begin a sentence with a capital, would you begin a sentence starting with a Dutch surname with a capital? I assume you do, but it always feels odd somehow.

I.e: "Van Persie is a petulant twat." Looking at it with a capitalised V just looks odd.

Is the "van", "von" etc thing part of his surname or is it a middle name? I wish I had a "van" in my name. I feel it adds a measure of class.

Van is part of the surname, and it means "from" or "of", to indicate where somebody is from originally (places, rivers). Persie would have been Persia the country, Nistelrooy is probably is different pronunciation of a village called Nistelrode. Ginkel could be short for a heath called Ginkelse Heide, but also be derived from a Germanic word meaning something like ford or clearance (I admit to googling that).

As in all languages, Dutch sentences start with a capital :-) If we write the name Robin van Persie in full, van is written with a small letter. Is the name being written mid-sentence without the first name or initial, it's Van with a capital.

If you want to look up the name in the phonebook or list it alphabetically, it is listed under P. There are so many Dutch surnames starting with van, van de, van der, that there would be endless rows of names under V. More practical to use the main part of the name.

Well, you asked :-)

Edited July 19, 201312 yr by Valerie

 

 

I'd love to know what those men are talking about him.

Van is part of the surname, and it means "from" or "of", to indicate where somebody is from originally (places, rivers). Persie would have been Persia the country, Nistelrooy is probably is different pronunciation of a village called Nistelrode. Ginkel could be short for a heath called Ginkelse Heide, but also be derived from a Germanic word meaning something like ford or clearance (I admit to googling that).

As in all languages, Dutch sentences start with a capital :-) If we write the name Robin van Persie in full, van is written with a small letter. Is the name being written mid-sentence without the first name or initial, it's Van with a capital.

If you want to look up the name in the phonebook or list it alphabetically, it is listed under P. There are so many Dutch surnames starting with van, van de, van der, that there would be endless rows of names under V. More practical to use the main part of the name.

Well, you asked :-)

 

Learned so much there, thank you Val!

That was very enlightening.  So, If I went to Ginkelse Heide, there would be lots of van Gingkels in their telephone directory, I suppose? 

No, just as if you went to Amsterdam there wouldn't be millions of Van Amsterdam's everywhere.

 

They're historically linked to places, although that particular family name may have moved many years ago.

I'd love to know what those men are talking about him.

He's the best thing since sliced bread, and he shouldn't go abroad yet.

BTW the name Van Ginkel is used a million times, so if you want to know how it's pronounced, here is your chance.

Learned so much there, thank you Val!

You know, Dutch isn't so difficult, just apply yourself an hour or 2 and you're conversant!

Learned so much there, thank you Val!

Agreed! Thanks Val, very interesting.

You know, Dutch isn't so difficult, just apply yourself an hour or 2 and you're conversant!

Lies! The pronounciation is exceptionally hard for an Englishman to nail down.

Been trying for 6 years and still can't quite get eu, ui, g or sch correct.

You should be ashamed, only took schteve mclarren a few months the and he was fluent.

You should be ashamed, only took schteve mclarren a few months the and he was fluent.

 

I hear he's now in the process of learning English.

Lies! The pronounciation is exceptionally hard for an Englishman to nail down.

Been trying for 6 years and still can't quite get eu, ui, g or sch correct.

Oh come on, I was about 2 years old and I was fluent already. You're just not trying hard enough.

:-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=FP5QYGRWtW4

Oh come on, I was about 2 years old and I was fluent already. You're just not trying hard enough.

:-)

I was about 3 and was fluent in both, so neurhhh!

 

Admittedly, I forgot Dutch by the age of 13, but that's not the point.

Edited July 21, 201312 yr by Eggy McMuffin

I was about 3 and was fluent in both, so neurhhh!

Admittedly, I forgot Dutch by the age of 13, but that's not the point.

So you agree that it's an easy language :-)

So you agree that it's an easy language :-)

Incredibly easy.