Wonder if he is one of the "cold decisions" conte will make. 

He's a had great season overall and contributed to us winning the PL in that wing back role but definitely feel we can upgrade in his position with more quality. His crossing and final ball is usually pretty woeful.
Today he was very poor. Although he took one for the team for the yellow, it was then pure stupidity to take a dive especially when the FA announced a clamp down on simulation just recently.

4 hours ago, axman2526 said:

Wonder if he is one of the "cold decisions" conte will make. 

I have no doubt he's one of them. Matic too.

9 hours ago, Barrettinator said:

I have no doubt he's one of them. Matic too.

Hopefully Pedro and Costa too. 

1 minute ago, didierforever said:

Hopefully Pedro and Costa too. 

Why would you want Pedro to leave? He's been one of our best players this season and come up with important goals many times. If we get someone like Sanchez, he'd be a perfect back up to either Hazard or Sanchez, along with Willian.

3 minutes ago, Barrettinator said:

Why would you want Pedro to leave? He's been one of our best players this season and come up with important goals many times. If we get someone like Sanchez, he'd be a perfect back up to either Hazard or Sanchez, along with Willian.

Leave?

I thought you were talking about upgrades? Selling moses would be more than OTT. Minimum he deserves is being a back up.

As for Pedro, yes he scores goals, but that pretty much it. He should be a back up next season.

Edited May 28, 20179 yr by didierforever

1 minute ago, didierforever said:

Leave?

I thought you were talking about upgrades? Selling moses would be more than OTT. Minimum he deserves is being a back up.

As for Pedro, yes he scores goals, but that pretty much it. He should be a back up next season.

Actually, I misread that. My mistake. Yeah, Pedro should be a back up at this point in his career.

Pedro, Moses, Matic and Costa. Those positions need upgrades. I would say Alonso too. Still not satisfied with him in that position going into the CL.

2 minutes ago, Barrettinator said:

Actually, I misread that. My mistake. Yeah, Pedro should be a back up at this point in his career.

Pedro, Moses, Matic and Costa. Those positions need upgrades. I would say Alonso too. Still not satisfied with him in that position going into the CL.

I think Alonso has done more than enough to guarantee a starting place. More over, he is improving and growing into the position. Meanwhile, Moses started with a bang and then slowly but steadily has tapered down. Just feel that, it would be massively unjust to remove Alonso. Also, dont think we would get one so easily or the board would be willing to spend after the whole luis-baba-alonso spree. 

Sanchez - Pedro

Conti - Moses

Verrati/radja - Matic

Any one who knows how to hold the f**king ball up - Costa.

Should be the ideal replacements.

Are people realy saying to sell Moses over an awful decision yesterday? Guys been quality this season and he made admittedly a big mistake but he will learn from it.

I have no problem with Moses as a squad player, but I think a player like Andrea Conti would be a big improvement to our team. I also like to have a pacy option on left wingback as well, someone like Mendy or Ghoulam.

20 minutes ago, Bobbywoodhogan said:

Are people realy saying to sell Moses over an awful decision yesterday? Guys been quality this season and he made admittedly a big mistake but he will learn from it.

 Dont think anyone wants to sell him, just get an upgrade. Def deserves to stick around as a squad player

1 hour ago, Xfaxtor said:

 Dont think anyone wants to sell him, just get an upgrade. Def deserves to stick around as a squad player

Ah well I apologise for been mistaken and actually agre it's a position we can upgrade.

Look victor did great and I like his story but this season will be the highlight of his career, it won't get better than this for him, he played out of his skin under some top management and he still was never going to be good enough for a long term solution 

5 hours ago, didierforever said:

I think Alonso has done more than enough to guarantee a starting place. More over, he is improving and growing into the position. Meanwhile, Moses started with a bang and then slowly but steadily has tapered down. Just feel that, it would be massively unjust to remove Alonso. Also, dont think we would get one so easily or the board would be willing to spend after the whole luis-baba-alonso spree. 

Sanchez - Pedro

Conti - Moses

Verrati/radja - Matic

Any one who knows how to hold the f**king ball up - Costa.

Should be the ideal replacements.

I agree alonso was a big doubt for em but I think he has shown he can be a brilliant player, can't agree costa needs upgraded though he is top class, if we keep him it's a huge bonus, but a team like chelsea playing in all competitions need 2 top strikers so I would hope for competition for Diego not a replacement 

He's been rewarded for diving in the past, hell in the semi's Son didn't even touch him because he dived before the inevitable contact. Hopefully the shock and punishment of what happened will make him cut it out forever.

If we sign first team players they should all, bar begovic replacement, should be better than who is in the team now. Moses and Alonso to the bench, sign better than them. 

5 hours ago, DonAntonio said:

I agree alonso was a big doubt for em but I think he has shown he can be a brilliant player, can't agree costa needs upgraded though he is top class, if we keep him it's a huge bonus, but a team like chelsea playing in all competitions need 2 top strikers so I would hope for competition for Diego not a replacement 

I doubt any player can be called top class or world class with that poor a back to the goal play.

6 hours ago, didierforever said:

I doubt any player can be called top class or world class with that poor a back to the goal play.

Diego is a top class striker, you would be hard pushed to find one football analyst who says different, they all praise his abilities,  not only will he consistently score 20 goals in whatever league you play him but he will make runs that is impossible not to appreciate, just look at his work off the ball, he is a brilliant striker and since he has come we have won 2 league titles in 3 years, him being our top scorer in both, do you forget how hard it was to replace drogs? Getting a striker that will always score you goals and always fight for the team is not easy, we should be very happy if we keep him. Yes his ability to dribble, link up or hold the ball long is not great, but other than his fantastic movement he almost won us or at least kept us in an fa cup where no one performed with his brut strength and determination, Lukaku would have been chewing his nails thinking about twerking in Ibiza the following week. 

9 minutes ago, DonAntonio said:

Diego is a top class striker, you would be hard pushed to find one football analyst who says different, they all praise his abilities,  not only will he consistently score 20 goals in whatever league you play him but he will make runs that is impossible not to appreciate, just look at his work off the ball, he is a brilliant striker and since he has come we have won 2 league titles in 3 years, him being our top scorer in both, do you forget how hard it was to replace drogs? Getting a striker that will always score you goals and always fight for the team is not easy, we should be very happy if we keep him. Yes his ability to dribble, link up or hold the ball long is not great, but other than his fantastic movement he almost won us or at least kept us in an fa cup where no one performed with his brut strength and determination, Lukaku would have been chewing his nails thinking about twerking in Ibiza the following week. 

When someone bigs up costa's ability to score goals, saying he is a brilliant striker, and yet ridicules Lukaku in the same breath,... oh well.

Sorry, mate, but we need more than Costa offers. His hold up play, link up play, heading ability all are way below average. Yes, we have won 2 PLs in the last 3 years, but we also had our worst season in decades with him. By the way, the same statement can be used for Matic, and almost every sane chelsea fan would admit that we need an upgrade on Matic, no matter what. The same stands for Costa. 

Also, I find it weird that you think we need an upgraded CB, yet the main source of our problem for more than half the season is the best thing since sliced bread.

6 minutes ago, didierforever said:

When someone bigs up costa's ability to score goals, saying he is a brilliant striker, and yet ridicules Lukaku in the same breath,... oh well.

Sorry, mate, but we need more than Costa offers. His hold up play, link up play, heading ability all are way below average. Yes, we have won 2 PLs in the last 3 years, but we also had our worst season in decades with him. By the way, the same statement can be used for Matic, and almost every sane chelsea fan would admit that we need an upgrade on Matic, no matter what. The same stands for Costa. 

Also, I find it weird that you think we need an upgraded CB, yet the main source of our problem for more than half the season is the best thing since sliced bread.

Kind of playing to your own naritive there, was talking about costa getting us wins when we are off the boil because he is tenacious, lukaku disappears in situations like that, we all know he can score goals...against lesser teams....when not under pressure but that wasn't the context, i find it equally weird that you think we don't need an upgraded CB but think we need better than costa, when garry is average and costa is in the top 3 strikers in the league easily 

Edited May 29, 20179 yr by DonAntonio

Just now, DonAntonio said:

Kind of playing to your own maritime there, was talking about costa getting us wins when we are off the boil because he is tenacious, lukaku disappears in situations like that, we all know he can score goals...against lesser teams....when not under pressure but that wasn't the context, i find it equally weird that you think we don't need an upgraded CB but think we need better than costa, when garry is average and costa is in the top 3 strikers in the league easily 

Oh. So the costa is a big game player vs Lukaku is sh*t against big team MYTH. 

Mate, go back some pages on this thread and give it a proper read. Lukaku has as many goals as Costa has against the top7 this season. Playing for a much poorer team (with all due respect). I mean I would love to see the chances everton created against those said big teams vs the chances chelsea created and the points we were able to get vs the points everton got. I am sure it is almost equal having hazard and pedro to feed off while countering city/pool/arsenal compared to the legends that are barkley and mirallas.

Thats weird. GC got in the PL team of the year, which makes him the one of the top 2 CBs of the league, Meanwhile, Lukaku and Kane made the cut too. I would have selected Zlatan ahead of him and personally feel aguero is a miles better footballer. 

Also, your post in this thread did not allude to Costa getting us wins. Also, against the top 6 this year, we have played 10 games, lost to arsenal, united, pool, spurs, drew to pool and won 5 games. So, I am pretty sure that we won the league by flat track bullying the "weaker" opponents.

21 hours ago, DonAntonio said:

Kind of playing to your own naritive there, was talking about costa getting us wins when we are off the boil because he is tenacious, lukaku disappears in situations like that, we all know he can score goals...against lesser teams....when not under pressure but that wasn't the context, i find it equally weird that you think we don't need an upgraded CB but think we need better than costa, when garry is average and costa is in the top 3 strikers in the league easily 

Taking the top 6 teams so Chelsea, City, Liverpool, Utd, Spurs and Arsenal.

Costa has scored 3 goals in 13 games. (two in the league, one in the FA Cup).

Lukaku has scored 4 goals in 11 games. All in the league.

 

Can this whole 'Lukaku only scores against small teams' myth pls stop now. 

Wow the overreaction is real

On 2017-5-28 at 04:14, axman2526 said:

Wonder if he is one of the "cold decisions" conte will make. 

Goals/assists 16/17 season

Dani Alves 2.46
Andrea Conti 2.69
Kieran Tierney 2.86
Marcos Alonso 4.11
Alex Sandro 4.3
Victor Moses 5

Edited June 3, 20179 yr by the special one

Apparently hes due toe surgery, been playing through pain last 2 months

http://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2017/6/1/15723550/victor-moses-chelsea-nigeria-toe-injury-surgery

still miffed at him for the diving at Wembley, happened so fast (I was 20 rows behind thegoal he was attacking) couldn't tell it was simulation, gather he got married the next day as well

Keep Him please, can only improve in right WB position