so did all of the liverfool trolls leave this message board? Levy where are you now? In your Liverpool slums?

Lewy has, as he usually is, been a class act. We didn't see him in the immediate aftermath and I cannot blame him really.

It's a Manchester United channel but what a video.

 

Lewy has, as he usually is, been a class act. We didn't see him in the immediate aftermath and I cannot blame him really.

 

The only post I remember from him was the 3-0 prediction for lpuke to win

Edited April 28, 201412 yr by robdog

so did all of the liverfool trolls leave this message board? Levy where are you now? In your Liverpool slums?

Lewy has constantly been posting in this thread especially the past few pages, take a look.

This still from it particularly made me chuckle, I must admit!.

 

 

 

 

 

EDIT: Oopps, was supposed to have quoted Izanagi's post above.

Edited April 28, 201412 yr by Steve H

It's a Manchester United channel but what a video.

 

That is the best I've seen, brilliant.

Lewy has constantly been posting in this thread especially the past few pages, take a look.

 

Thanks Gem. Still haven't finished my morning coffee here on the Left Coast. I will give it a glance to have some laughs

Down here in deepest Dorset I have had a wonderful day.

A lovely lunch, watching highlights of the game over and over , reading comments on various forums.

I have read some funny things, many bitter thing, some abusive things but to be fair on many of the forums there have been some really well balanced comments

This particular posting(on Redcafe) grabbed my attention, What do others think?

Blasphemy said: ?

Rodgers did exactly the right thing against Chelsea. Individual player errors are not the managers fault. It's such stupid logic to assume that because a team didn't win the manager made the wrong choices.

Rodgers played exactly how his team should have played based on his players and how Chelsea set up. Yes, they didn't win but that was because Gerrard fell over and players missed chances. The way Rodgers set them up was just fine.

Liverpool had 26 shots and 8 on target, they created enough to win the game but individual errors cost them. That is not Brendan Rodgers's fault.

Heres the Man Utd supporters response

No. This is the sort of thing manager after manager comes out with when Mourinho does this to them, and yet it keeps on happening. There's a reason for that: he is employing an effective and thought-out strategy, and they are failing to find a way around it.

1. 8 shots on target out of 26 shots is a poor return. The reason: Liverpool couldn't find a way through, and were forced to optimistically shoot from difficult, long-ranged positions.

2. Of those 8 shots on target, most offered very little threat for the same reasons.

3. Yes, Schwarzer had some saves to make. But the goalkeeper is also part of the plan: he knew that he wouldn't have to deal with breakaway attacks from Suarez and Sturridge. He knew he'd get plenty of protection from crosses and corners thanks to the likes of Ivanovic, Matic, Azpilicueta etc. He knew that the main threat he'd be dealing with was frustrated shots from range, so he was well-prepared, and dealt with the few dangerous ones very well.

4. This is the key point. Yes, the first goal came from Gerrard slipping. But this excuse is given every time Mourinho plays this approach. 'They only scored because...' Of course the goal has to come from something, and it isn't going to be one of waves and waves of gung-ho attacks. But the fact is that Mourinho knows how to make this approach yield goals. Ultimately the Gerrard error wasn't even needed for Chelsea to win the match because they scored a second, and that one was straight from the Mourinho shut-up-shop textbook:

More and more defensive players are brought on as Chelsea are forced deeper and deeper. They play with less and less attacking intent, but always one fast, clever player introduced with fresh legs in the last half hour - Willian, in this case. With fewer Chelsea attacks, Liverpool become complacent. They camp higher and higher up the pitch in their desperation to get the goal that they feel they are so close to getting. Then Torres comes on fresh and razor sharp in the last ten minutes, and you get to this situation where almost any mistake by the Liverpool players will probably lead to a Chelsea goal. It sounds insane when you say it like that, but it's true, that's the trap Rodgers let his team get caught in. Their defenders have completely abandoned any kind of positioning, because all they've had to do for half an hour is pick up and recycle the ball when Chelsea head it out of danger. Torres and Willian are both almost in line with Liverpool's last line of defence. One slip, one bad pass or good interception from a Chelsea player - and this is not unlikely because Liverpool are trying to play so fast and in such tight spaces now - and a goal for Chelsea is almost inevitable. Suddenly, two Chelsea players are miles from any defender and the keeper can't do a thing about it.

It happens every single time Mourinho plays this approach. It even happened with the players who learnt this approach under him, when Di Matteo did it against Barca and Bayern. Anyone saying 'Chelsea only won because Gerrard slipped' doesn't have a clue what they've just watched, and isn't paying attention to the pattern.

Edited April 28, 201412 yr by terraloon

It's not just the goal that's beautiful, it's the look on the faces of the L'pool supporters.

I've found Waldo.

The whole world seems to have forgotnenn the 100% pen we didn't get at 0-0....

The only post I remember from him was the 3-0 prediction for lpuke to win

If you can't be confident after 11 wins then I dont know when you can be!

The whole world seems to have forgotnenn the 100% pen we didn't get at 0-0....

was that the handball? meh, it probably should have been given but i dont think he deliberately went for it, he just left his hand out, those kinda things can easily go either way

I've found Waldo.

Ha ha...oh yeah

was that the handball? meh, it probably should have been given but i dont think he deliberately went for it, he just left his hand out, those kinda things can easily go either way

 

 

are you f**king kidding me.... do you think it's less of a penaly then the one you got at united, or the dive against villa? or even the pen you got at west ham?

 

Do me a f**king favour.... this is huge reason why most of the country despise you lot, the fact I had spuds, gooner and united fans texting me yesterday saying "thankyou" as if id beat you my self says it all about how people feel about you and your post is a very big reason for that, that and the entitlement and the dignity and the biggest club in the league and all that other sh*t.

 

Gerard was a good 10 yards away, he was in the area, he had his hand out, not by his side, not behind his back, out streached m the ball was heading towards goal and his hand stopped it.... how exactly do you define a penalty? only if the bucktooth c**t of a forward of yours is involved perhaps?

are you f**king kidding me.... do you think it's less of a penaly then the one you got at united, or the dive against villa? or even the pen you got at west ham?

 

Do me a f**king favour.... this is huge reason why most of the country despise you lot, the fact I had spuds, gooner and united fans texting me yesterday saying "thankyou" as if id beat you my self says it all about how people feel about you and your post is a very big reason for that, that and the entitlement and the dignity and the biggest club in the league and all that other sh*t.

 

Gerard was a good 10 yards away, he was in the area, he had his hand out, not by his side, not behind his back, out streached m the ball was heading towards goal and his hand stopped it.... how exactly do you define a penalty? only if the bucktooth c**t of a forward of yours is involved perhaps?

 

Being honest I didn't think it was a nailed on penalty either.  I could see it being given by some refs as his hand was held out but I am not a fan of penalties where the ball is hit straight at a player and it happens to go where his hands was.  his hand didn't actually move toward the ball, it was simply there and wasn't taken out of the way. 

are you f**king kidding me.... do you think it's less of a penaly then the one you got at united, or the dive against villa? or even the pen you got at west ham?

 

Do me a f**king favour.... this is huge reason why most of the country despise you lot, the fact I had spuds, gooner and united fans texting me yesterday saying "thankyou" as if id beat you my self says it all about how people feel about you and your post is a very big reason for that, that and the entitlement and the dignity and the biggest club in the league and all that other sh*t.

 

Gerard was a good 10 yards away, he was in the area, he had his hand out, not by his side, not behind his back, out streached m the ball was heading towards goal and his hand stopped it.... how exactly do you define a penalty? only if the bucktooth c**t of a forward of yours is involved perhaps?

 

Chill out dude. This lewy doesn't seem anywhere near as bad as some others.

Chill out dude. This lewy doesn't seem anywhere near as bad as some others.

 

 

Sadam probably wasn't as bad as hitler

Being honest I didn't think it was a nailed on penalty either.  I could see it being given by some refs as his hand was held out but I am not a fan of penalties where the ball is hit straight at a player and it happens to go where his hands was.  his hand didn't actually move toward the ball, it was simply there and wasn't taken out of the way. 

 

 

So by the letter of the law loz or by the current standards in refereeing it is a penalty with no yellow card as no intent was there. The crime still occurs regardless of the intent. As I said above, the penalty against tomkinson at westham was a penalty but it was probably less so then this particular incident..

 

let me put it another way Loz, if a defender is standing up a player and he adopts a stance with his hands out, and the striker has a shot, ball hits the defenders hand, but he didn't move it from the moment the ball left the players foot.... penalty or not? ... keep your hands behind your you and we don't have this problem

was that the handball? meh, it probably should have been given but i dont think he deliberately went for it, he just left his hand out, those kinda things can easily go either way

 

I agree, it really can go either way with that kind of call. I could understand the call either way but if that had been given against us I'd be a bit peeved. That said we have benefited from it before, I think we got a match-winning penalty against Man Utd a couple of years ago after a similar handball from Carrick.

So by the letter of the law loz or by the current standards in refereeing it is a penalty with no yellow card as no intent was there. The crime still occurs regardless of the intent. As I said above, the penalty against tomkinson at westham was a penalty but it was probably less so then this particular incident..

 

let me put it another way Loz, if a defender is standing up a player and he adopts a stance with his hands out, and the striker has a shot, ball hits the defenders hand, but he didn't move it from the moment the ball left the players foot.... penalty or not? ... keep your hands behind your you and we don't have this problem

Actually the letter of the law requires it to be deliberate. For me that means the player actually intends to handball it.   However that is a pretty strict interpretation which is rarely applied. If it was there would be very few penalties for handball.

 

What refs have often said is that they would award a penalty if the ball hits the hand AND the hand is in a position you wouldn't expect it to be (even if it isn't deliberate).   Having your hands behind you is not really a natural way to stand when taking part in a physical sport.

 

However I acknowledge entirely that inconsistency in refereeing for many years means nobody really knows what logic they apply.

If you can't be confident after 11 wins then I dont know when you can be!

 

since you are lpuke fan you know history. When was the last time a Jose Mourinho team lost by that scoreline? The closet that I can remember is PSG w/ the 3-1 in the UCL

since you are lpuke fan you know history. When was the last time a Jose Mourinho team lost by that scoreline? The closet that I can remember is PSG w/ the 3-1 in the UCL

 

Last year, CL semis against Dortmund 

since you are lpuke fan you know history. When was the last time a Jose Mourinho team lost by that scoreline? The closet that I can remember is PSG w/ the 3-1 in the UCL

 

0-2 Newcastle this season in the league.

since you are lpuke fan you know history. When was the last time a Jose Mourinho team lost by that scoreline? The closet that I can remember is PSG w/ the 3-1 in the UCL

 

I can do better. The Liverpool fan in my local (and he really is the stereotype - which to be fair Lewy isn't -  you know the sort. Heysel was Chelsea fans, Athens was a media driven exaggeration, etc etc) claimed beforehand that Liverpool would win by 5 or 6.  When I pointed out that this was a Mourinho team and we just don't suffer results like that he said that 'Mourinho has never managed a team that has come up against a team as creative and free scoring as Liverpool'  - I yawned.

Sounds like you need a new local.