TheChelseaBlues Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 If he was only scoring in the league youd have to take it with a grain of salt but hes doing it in the CL as well. Sign him and start playing with a false 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remodez Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 I don't think lesblues is dismissing him, at least it didn't come across that way to me. He's expressing a valid concern. To have that many goals in that many games and have no assits at all (I have not checked this, just assuming lesblues is correct) is quite bizzare for an attacking midfielder, if he was a striker then no problem. Never seen the guy play though, he could be creating chances on a regular basis but his team aren't putting them away. Find it hard to imagine that a player who finds himself in so many goal scoring oppoutunites hasn't once set up others. Having him and Pedro would make us quite clinical on the counter. Quite like the idea mentioned of sticking him upfront. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barak81 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 What's wrong with that post? Seems like a reasonable question to me. a) How many goals have we had from midfield open play since Lampard left? Last season we said that if Costa's goals dry up we would have a problem and low and behold... we have a problem, so me personally I don't see goals as a bad thing b) To say he has 0 assists is absolutely ludicrous?? it means your so lazy you can't even be bothered to go watch a you tube compilation?!? c) even is he had 0 assists so what, you realize football is not made up of simply the assist and the goal players like modric and iniesta have relatively poor output in terms of number but they are some of the most important players for their respective clubs d) if we are to be wary of singing some one because the key element of their game may stutter and stop, maybe we shouldn't sign any one ever again? (Again, this point is minor because points a to c pretty much cover it for me And lastly, regarding this weaker league stuff, I think it's about time we got our head out of our asses on this one, it now seems arrogant to be saying this. The golden years of the 2003/4 to 2010 really are over. We won the CL as an anomaly, in 2012, almost like fait paying us back for every year we actually had a claim at being the best team in Europe and got screwed! but we weren't the best team in Europe not really, to believe that is to be as deluded as the scourers in 2005 when they believed they where all while finishing a full 30 points of the top. Since then English teams haven't really got close. it says something that 3/4 teams our still struggling to get out of their groups and city really haven't set the world alight. There is every chance that Kiev go through top of the group in a few weeks, Zenit saw to us a few years ago. So I for one am not going to buy in to the "stronger leage" bull. Different yes, I'll even accept that the delta between teams is much smaller in the prem then other leagues but it doesn't make us stronger. Would he be a success, I don't know, but I wouldn't rule him out for any reason above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 i think les blues made a fair point tbh. i understand he's a good goal scorer, but what has his assist stats been over the last 2-3 seasons? however, i don't think douglas costa had that great of an assist/goal stats, but so far he's proven to be a success. i suppose he's worth a gamble. i hear shakhtar's scout in brazil used to work for porto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barak81 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 (edited) 1.07 - looks like an assist to me. Generally players that don't take corners or free kicks have slightly lower assist numbers Edited November 26, 2015 by barak81 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesblues Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 I don't think lesblues is dismissing him, at least it didn't come across that way to me. He's expressing a valid concern. To have that many goals in that many games and have no assits at all (I have not checked this, just assuming lesblues is correct) is quite bizzare for an attacking midfielder, if he was a striker then no problem. Never seen the guy play though, he could be creating chances on a regular basis but his team aren't putting them away. Find it hard to imagine that a player who finds himself in so many goal scoring oppoutunites hasn't once set up others. Having him and Pedro would make us quite clinical on the counter. Quite like the idea mentioned of sticking him upfront. Thanks Remodez. I haven't seen anywhere I dismissed or said he is a mediocre player ( some just love making conclusions on your behalf). I was asking if his goals alone are what is people clamor for his signing?. Because as a midfielder was a expecting an assist or two from him. Fair play, I haven't watched him play but I did catch a repeat of yst's match vs madrid (he wasn't in it before madrid took feet off the pedal) and watched his youtube highlights and in my opinion unless we are looking to change system to where the no10 is a trequartista or a second striker, we won't see him at his best and of course he won't always score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesblues Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 I don't think lesblues is dismissing him, at least it didn't come across that way to me. He's expressing a valid concern. To have that many goals in that many games and have no assits at all (I have not checked this, just assuming lesblues is correct) is quite bizzare for an attacking midfielder, if he was a striker then no problem. Never seen the guy play though, he could be creating chances on a regular basis but his team aren't putting them away. Find it hard to imagine that a player who finds himself in so many goal scoring oppoutunites hasn't once set up others. Having him and Pedro would make us quite clinical on the counter. Quite like the idea mentioned of sticking him upfront. Thanks Remodez. I haven't seen anywhere I dismissed or said he is a mediocre player ( some just love making conclusions on your behalf). I was asking if his goals alone are what is people clamor for his signing?. Because as a midfielder was a expecting an assist or two from him. Fair play, I haven't watched him play but I did catch a repeat of yst's match vs madrid (he wasn't in it before madrid took feet off the pedal) and watched his youtube highlights and in my opinion unless we are looking to change system to where the no10 is a trequartista or a second striker, we won't see him at his best and of course he won't always score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 just seen he is 5'6 which seems a bit of the short side for a striker, especially in a jose mourinho team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 15/16 season 23 apps, 21 goals and 5 assists 14/15 season: 37 apps, 22 goals, 4 assists 13/14 season 40 apps, 9 goals, 5 assists 12/13 season 41 apps, 16 goals, 4 assists This data was from this site: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/alex-teixeira/profil/spieler/66515 He seems like a goal scorer and not so much a creative midfielder. If he is a striker, then by all means why not go for him as a back up to costa or a replacement for him. He seems to have good goal stats and he would cost around 30 million which is going rate for a striker these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesblues Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 15/16 season 23 apps, 21 goals and 5 assists 14/15 season: 37 apps, 22 goals, 4 assists 13/14 season 40 apps, 9 goals, 5 assists 12/13 season 41 apps, 16 goals, 4 assists This data was from this site: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/alex-teixeira/profil/spieler/66515 He seems like a goal scorer and not so much a creative midfielder. If he is a striker, then by all means why not go for him as a back up to costa or a replacement for him. He seems to have good goal stats and he would cost around 30 million which is going rate for a striker these days. Not to contradict you enigma as I think we're both saying the same thing. I checked his stats via whoscored (www.whoscored.com/Players/40748), it states he's an attacking mildfielder who scores goals. If we are to sign him as a AM (and given how we play our AMs) I don't think he would pull near those figures for us. But if as a second striker or even as 9 then by all means we should go ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remodez Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 a) How many goals have we had from midfield open play since Lampard left? Last season we said that if Costa's goals dry up we would have a problem and low and behold... we have a problem, so me personally I don't see goals as a bad thing b) To say he has 0 assists is absolutely ludicrous?? it means your so lazy you can't even be bothered to go watch a you tube compilation?!? c) even is he had 0 assists so what, you realize football is not made up of simply the assist and the goal players like modric and iniesta have relatively poor output in terms of number but they are some of the most important players for their respective clubs d) if we are to be wary of singing some one because the key element of their game may stutter and stop, maybe we shouldn't sign any one ever again? (Again, this point is minor because points a to c pretty much cover it for me And lastly, regarding this weaker league stuff, I think it's about time we got our head out of our asses on this one, it now seems arrogant to be saying this. The golden years of the 2003/4 to 2010 really are over. We won the CL as an anomaly, in 2012, almost like fait paying us back for every year we actually had a claim at being the best team in Europe and got screwed! but we weren't the best team in Europe not really, to believe that is to be as deluded as the scourers in 2005 when they believed they where all while finishing a full 30 points of the top. Since then English teams haven't really got close. it says something that 3/4 teams our still struggling to get out of their groups and city really haven't set the world alight. There is every chance that Kiev go through top of the group in a few weeks, Zenit saw to us a few years ago. So I for one am not going to buy in to the "stronger leage" bull. Different yes, I'll even accept that the delta between teams is much smaller in the prem then other leagues but it doesn't make us stronger. Would he be a success, I don't know, but I wouldn't rule him out for any reason above I wasn't questioning his ability based on stats, I even said I've never seen him play, I was just questioning how an attacking midfielder with that many goals can have zero assists. It's just something that doesn't happen.And you don't need to convince me about the weaker league bollocks, I've been saying it for a while now. The stats posted by engima make far more sense, more in line with, supposedly, the type of player he is. Doesn't change my opinion either way though, would still take a chance and sign him regardless but it makes for better reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big blue Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 I think it depends on whether Mourinho will play him as a striker as I don't think there is room for another attacking midfielder as things stand. Never seen him play, but he was a beast on football manager a few years ago. I think it was 2008! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkw Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 So where did this zero assists thing come from then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesblues Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 It isn't rocket science to check his stats on whoscored.com. Of course some's brain only function when insulting or throwing childish digs at others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM7 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Sign him up I reckon. I just hope the club act quickly and not wait until 31st Jan. Is he available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkw Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 So , this means 0 assists? 15/16 season 23 apps, 21 goals and 5 assists That's very confusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Bridges Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Well a goal scoring CAM would help address our lack of goals upfront and would also likely help create space for the other attackers with their threat. I also feel that we are too over loaded with passer/player maker/creative mids/attackers and could do with another goal threat such as Lampard provided. Especially when the main goal threat is out of form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM7 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 It would be nice to have someone who knows how to shoot. The rest of our team seems to have forgotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axman2526 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Well a goal scoring CAM would help address our lack of goals upfront and would also likely help create space for the other attackers with their threat. I also feel that we are too over loaded with passer/player maker/creative mids/attackers and could do with another goal threat such as Lampard provided. Especially when the main goal threat is out of form. What are our goals from midfield like so far? Hazard has 0, oscar has 2, willian 6 (all his free kicks). Pedro I think has 2, one in league cup. That be our output from attacking midfield I think. Pretty awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Baby Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Never seen him play but looking at that video barak posted he reminds me a little of Griezmann. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceboy Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 ChelsTransfer ?@ChelsTransfer 4h4 hours ago Alex Teixeira: "What I saw and what my manager said was that Chelsea, #Juventus and #PSG made proposals" #CFC #Shakhtar (Lance!) ChelsTransfer ?@ChelsTransfer 4h4 hours ago Alex Teixeira: "But Chelsea and Juventus are deeper in the negotiations. There are three big clubs. Where I go, I'll be happy" #CFC (Lance!) ChelsTransfer ?@ChelsTransfer 4h4 hours ago Alex Teixeira: "It's my dream [to go to England]. I've spoken to many people who have the desire to play in the Premier League" #CFC ChelsTransfer ?@ChelsTransfer 4h4 hours ago Alex Teixeira: "I think the Premier League is the best in the world, more contested, and I want to have this challenge in my career" #CFC ChelsTransfer ?@ChelsTransfer 4h4 hours ago Alex Teixeira: "I'm glad to have received that proposal from #CFC, they're a great club in Europe, but my manager will deal with that" ChelsTransfer ?@ChelsTransfer 4h4 hours ago Alex Teixeira: "I think a transfer will be very difficult in January because it is in the middle of the championship." #CFC (Lance!) ChelsTransfer ?@ChelsTransfer 4h4 hours ago Alex Teixeira: "#Shakhtar have said they won't let me leave in January, only at the end of the season." #CFC (Lance!) ChelsTransfer ?@ChelsTransfer 4h4 hours ago Alex Teixeira: "Jose Mourinho is the world's best coach. I think I would learn a lot from him." #CFC #Shakhtar (Lance!) ChelsTransfer ?@ChelsTransfer 4h4 hours ago Alex Teixeira: "I hope Mourinho doesn't leave Chelsea now. I want to work with him and have great success at his side." #CFC (Lance!) ChelsTransfer ?@ChelsTransfer 4h4 hours ago Alex Teixeira: "Jose Mourinho has this aggressive way because he always tries to be the best. I want him to overcome this challenge." #CFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM7 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Sounds like we're moving early to secure him. Good news. Bad news is that Donesk are digging in about a January transfer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axman2526 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Sounds like we're moving early to secure him. Good news. Bad news is that Donesk are digging in about a January transfer. These guys normally have minimum fee clauses. Not sure what his is but if we really want him in January we can make it happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 (edited) finally some good news. please god let him become a beast in the EPL for us if he signs. my dream would be he turns out like suarez lol Edited November 28, 2015 by enigma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barak81 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 All paper talk for me still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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