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Well, obviously, in the Ukraine the first assists of a season don't count.  It's a lost in translation thing, I'm told.

Ha ha, those wacky nearly Russians...

Strange how I never got an answer from that le blues bloke.

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you mean the website that for assists in the league and cup has a greyed out N/A? that one? Why would assists be non applicable? Could it be that this amazing site you hold so much stock in has made a mistake? Lets check a different site and see, shall we. Come with me on a journey of assists, goals, more assists and more goals.....

 

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/alex-teixeira/profil/spieler/66515  -  Goals = 25. Assists = 5

 

Well what do you know, different figures, and actual assists....

 

 

I rest my case M`lud.....

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you mean the website that for assists in the league and cup has a greyed out N/A? that one? Why would assists be non applicable? Could it be that this amazing site you hold so much stock in has made a mistake? Lets check a different site and see, shall we. Come with me on a journey of assists, goals, more assists and more goals.....

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/alex-teixeira/profil/spieler/66515 - Goals = 25. Assists = 5

Well what do you know, different figures, and actual assists....

I rest my case M`lud.....

This same site I hold high regard for is more generally accepted. Its all down to preference. Oh now you actually checked the whoscored site. Weren't you hinting I pulled the '0' assists out of thin air?
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This same site I hold high regard for is more generally accepted. Its all down to preference. Oh now you actually checked the whoscored site. Weren't you hinting I pulled the '0' assists out of thin air?

Hint? No, I asked a simple question.

So why are his assist n/a on that site?

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I really hate when a players value comes down to statistics that are largely meaningless. The assists one in particular is bollocks, as it goes to the player who touched the ball directly before a shot is scored, not taking into account that another player who may have split the defence with a decisive run or pass actually did the work. The only truly meaningful statistics in football are the final result, who played, who scored, who got carded and of course the table.

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I really hate when a players value comes down to statistics that are largely meaningless. The assists one in particular is bollocks, as it goes to the player who touched the ball directly before a shot is scored, not taking into account that another player who may have split the defence with a decisive run or pass actually did the work. The only truly meaningful statistics in football are the final result, who played, who scored, who got carded and of course the table.

Not really, what you are describing there is something that doesn't happen very often. Majority of the time an assist isn't a simple 2 yard pass so it's still a valid means of measuring a player's performance. 

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Not really, what you are describing there is something that doesn't happen very often. Majority of the time an assist isn't a simple 2 yard pass so it's still a valid means of measuring a player's performance. 

 

 

I disagree, I would say most of the time an assist is a corner or free kick, so it will only attest to a) the players set piece ability and b) the people on the end of it. 

 

I think last season 20+ of our goals came from defenders? this will be mostly from set pieces and a large number of fabregases assists 

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Lol. So now its not why its 0, its why its n/a?. JFC

 

Both are relevant questions and are linked to each other. It appears as zero (total assists) on whoscored.com because the stats for his league and cup goals are not available (n/a). Whoscored.com isn't saying he hasn't made any assists, it's just that they don't know if he does or if they do, they're not sure about the number of assists.

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if anybody watched the videos posted, you can see him assisting players, but the players not finishing them. he obviously can assist, but he just doesn't have the quality around him to take full advantage of those assists; probably why he has so few assists. stats don't always tell the full story. 

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I disagree, I would say most of the time an assist is a corner or free kick, so it will only attest to a) the players set piece ability and b) the people on the end of it. 

 

I think last season 20+ of our goals came from defenders? this will be mostly from set pieces and a large number of fabregases assists 

I think you are greatly overestimating player's set pieces abilities if you think most assists come from corners and freekicks. Crosses from the wing, far enough there's a fair few of those in the premier league, but not set pieces. Most assists come from open play.

 

Not sure how many of those 20+ goals were set pieces but a quick look at a highlight package on Youtube shows that Fabregas had 23 assists, only 7 of those came from corners and 1 from a free kick. 

 

Using a few games on the weekend as a further example;

 

Leicester and United. 2 goals, 1 assist from open play and 1 from a corner.  

Palace and Newcastle. 6 goals, 5 assists from open play and 1 from a corner.

Everton and Bournemouth. 6 goals, 5 assists from open play and 1 from a corner. 

City and Sunderland.4 goals, 4 assists from open play.

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Both are relevant questions and are linked to each other. It appears as zero (total assists) on whoscored.com because the stats for his league and cup goals are not available (n/a). Whoscored.com isn't saying he hasn't made any assists, it's just that they don't know if he does or if they do, they're not sure about the number of assists.

I guess you meant to say stats for his league/cups assists isn't available as there are stats for his goals in both cup and league. Transmarkt says he has 5 assists, no problem with that. I only went with the whoscored stats which shows 0 which I admit I didn't research further. But if you read through the thread what I was arguing with dkw was that after enigma pulled up the transfermarkt stats, he questioned where the zero assists came from which I pointed was from whoscored, only to post again questioning the zero assist relating it to the transfermarkt stats. And I pointed out again the zero assist was from whoscored and it was down to which you prefer to follow. Now knowing the 0 assists wasn't made up, another question arises, so I answered him in kind with the last post.
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I guess you meant to say stats for his league/cups assists isn't available as there are stats for his goals in both cup and league.

 

Yes, that's what I meant. No idea why I wrote goals instead of assists.

 

I'm not taking sides in this, but it seems clear that whoscored.com isn't a reliable source in this case. To put it bluntly, they haven't got a clue (and admit as much) about the number of assists he's got so far this season.

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Not really, what you are describing there is something that doesn't happen very often. Majority of the time an assist isn't a simple 2 yard pass so it's still a valid means of measuring a player's performance. 

 

Nah its a pointless stat, how could you seriously give an assist to the player who passed to Charlie Adam to score from 60 yds against us for example?

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I think you are greatly overestimating player's set pieces abilities if you think most assists come from corners and freekicks. Crosses from the wing, far enough there's a fair few of those in the premier league, but not set pieces. Most assists come from open play.

Not sure how many of those 20+ goals were set pieces but a quick look at a highlight package on Youtube shows that Fabregas had 23 assists, only 7 of those came from corners and 1 from a free kick.

Using a few games on the weekend as a further example;

Leicester and United. 2 goals, 1 assist from open play and 1 from a corner.

Palace and Newcastle. 6 goals, 5 assists from open play and 1 from a corner.

Everton and Bournemouth. 6 goals, 5 assists from open play and 1 from a corner.

City and Sunderland.4 goals, 4 assists from open play.

So nearly a 3rd if fabregas assists came from set pieces? That's quite a boost to a state the point is that if your consistently taking set piece as an individual you are likely to have a high assist ratio then if your a player not taking set pieces

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Yes, that's what I meant. No idea why I wrote goals instead of assists.

I'm not taking sides in this, but it seems clear that whoscored.com isn't a reliable source in this case. To put it bluntly, they haven't got a clue (and admit as much) about the number of assists he's got so far this season.

Yes you're correct. I recently noticed that bar the EPL, La Liga, Serie A, Ligue 1 and Bundesliga, they don't have sound data on other leagues.
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