10 minutes ago, Bobbywoodhogan said:

Very true, I thought the only player who looked interested for them was Davies.

100% agree. Davies is one for the future, maybe a little bid in the summer from Chelsea would be a smart move.

When every game is a big game, why would you want a striker that disappears in big games?

1 hour ago, Osgood is Good said:

100% agree. Davies is one for the future, maybe a little bid in the summer from Chelsea would be a smart move.

He just signed a new contract. No way is he leaving. He is at the best club right now for his development and he knows this. He is not going to move for us just for money.

Tammy already better than Lukaku. Just needs one more season to fill out, got better feet than Lukaku, and he's already ours.

A 24 year old flat track bully who will score 20+ league goals would be quite valuable when top 4 spots are only going to get more and more competitive.

A 24 year old striker also is usually 4/5 years off his peak.

15 minutes ago, coco said:

Tammy already better than Lukaku. Just needs one more season to fill out, got better feet than Lukaku, and he's already ours.

He's not better than him right now but that doesn't mean he can't be in the future.

33 minutes ago, Bobbywoodhogan said:

He's not better than him right now but that doesn't mean he can't be in the future.

When i say better, i mean in technique, i know it's early doors, but he already looks more skillful and capable at controlling the ball.

Messi never did much against us either...

 

You could put any striker up front for Everton today and they weren't going to score. If he had been playing for us, however, then we would have won by more than three goals.

 

Strikers tend to score less goals when they're playing against a better team, that's nothing new. At a club like Chelsea that would be much less likely.

 

 

4 hours ago, bluedave said:

Messi never did much against us either...

 

You could put any striker up front for Everton today and they weren't going to score. If he had been playing for us, however, then we would have won by more than three goals.

 

Strikers tend to score less goals when they're playing against a better team, that's nothing new. At a club like Chelsea that would be much less likely.

 

 

It's not just in one game and it's not just against us either, he always disappears against the big teams. That to me shows maybe he's not cut out to be a Top level player. 

7 hours ago, startedwithglenn said:

A 24 year old flat track bully who will score 20+ league goals would be quite valuable when top 4 spots are only going to get more and more competitive.

A 24 year old striker also is usually 4/5 years off his peak.

It's not just the league though, we're a team that should be a CL contender year in year out, that's not to sound arrogant, but that's the level we have been before and are aiming to get back to.

If we spent the money required to get Lukaku it would big money. He'd be required to lead the line in both competitions.

I wouldn't fancy that at all.

Give me Belotti or Morata anyday over Lukaku.

11 hours ago, Bobbywoodhogan said:

Lukaku is clearly a talented footballer who scores many goals. Today he did lack service but great players create something from nothing and aside from that one shirt he had, he did absolutely nothing. 

he was the only everton player who DID create something out of nothing.

One time he hunted down luiz from 10 yards behind, won the ball and had a pop.

Another time, he ran rings around luiz and alonso, but scuffed his shot.

He had a 100 times better game than the striker we currently have playing for us. I dont exactly know what people are expecting out of the striker when he got 0 service against 3 defenders, and still managed to give us more than just headaches in the first half.

14 hours ago, Scott Harris said:

There were a few times in the first half where we struggled with Lukaku and you're right, the service to him was awful. In the second half, we cut off all service to Lukaku which killed his game. I agree with you, if he is playing with Hazard and Pedro he's going to be a lot more dangerous in these big games. He still holds up the ball better than Costa and links up with players better. If Costa is going to go, i would still take Lukaku.

THIS. I thought, he was quite good in the first half. 

Just seen how bad his big game record is! Hopefully his performance yesterday showed Conte that he isn't the player we need, a big game player like Morata who has much better technical ability is clearly who we should be signing, Conte will no doubt push for Morata, Hopefully Emenalo listens.

15 minutes ago, didierforever said:

he was the only everton player who DID create something out of nothing.

One time he hunted down luiz from 10 yards behind, won the ball and had a pop.

Another time, he ran rings around luiz and alonso, but scuffed his shot.

He had a 100 times better game than the striker we currently have playing for us. I dont exactly know what people are expecting out of the striker when he got 0 service against 3 defenders, and still managed to give us more than just headaches in the first half.

I disagree with that, he found space for a shot that he pulled wide other than that he barely did anything. Costa was a constant in the game, he had a poor game too mind but he looked more likely to score than Lukaku did. Also Costa played the ball into Hazard when's Hazard should have scored and he played in Fabregas for Fab's assist to Willian.

14 hours ago, Argo said:

Costa leading the line has yielded 2 title's in 3 seasons for the clubs he has played for and within touching distance of making it 3 in 4. Yet couple of months of bad form and all off a sudden Lukaku is better 

He's been hit and miss ever sinced he joined. Had a very good start to the season but he may have had 3 good games since Jan. Last season he was rubbish start to finish and in his first season here he started well but finished fairly poorly. The other thing, its not as if when he plays bad he just blends in with a 5 or 6 out of 10, he actually disrupts the rest of our team with his antics and diving. 

Just seen how bad his big game record is! Hopefully his performance yesterday showed Conte that he isn't the player we need, a big game player like Morata who has much better technical ability is clearly who we should be signing, Conte will no doubt push for Morata, Hopefully Emenalo listens.

 

What is his big game record, really? I see people tend to assume it's not very good, but I thought this had been debunked here some time ago.

 

Anyway, assuming it's true and he does struggle in 'big games', then it's important to remember that he's playing in quite a mediocre team, so the opportunities to score will obviously be much less when they're up against superior top-four opposition. If he was playing for Chelsea then there would be very few games where he didn't get at least a few good opportunities. At the moment we are creating a lot of good goal-scoring opportunities that are being wasted, and I'm very confident that Lukaku would improve that.

 

4 hours ago, pacquiao said:

Just seen how bad his big game record is! Hopefully his performance yesterday showed Conte that he isn't the player we need, a big game player like Morata who has much better technical ability is clearly who we should be signing, Conte will no doubt push for Morata, Hopefully Emenalo listens.

Please do tell us all about Morata's big game record. As someone has posted previously, it ain't better than Lukaku's. 

4 hours ago, Bobbywoodhogan said:

I disagree with that, he found space for a shot that he pulled wide other than that he barely did anything. Costa was a constant in the game, he had a poor game too mind but he looked more likely to score than Lukaku did. Also Costa played the ball into Hazard when's Hazard should have scored and he played in Fabregas for Fab's assist to Willian.

That's more down to service. If Lukaku had the Service that Costa had been getting since chirstmas he would easily be over 30 league goals already. 

8 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

That's more down to service. If Lukaku had the Service that Costa had been getting since chirstmas he would easily be over 30 league goals already. 

We shall see if he does make a move if he can't step up. But he doesn't influence the big games at all and if you're a top striker you'd make something happen. 

2 hours ago, Jackbuchanan said:

He's been hit and miss ever sinced he joined. Had a very good start to the season but he may have had 3 good games since Jan. Last season he was rubbish start to finish and in his first season here he started well but finished fairly poorly. The other thing, its not as if when he plays bad he just blends in with a 5 or 6 out of 10, he actually disrupts the rest of our team with his antics and diving. 

He was brilliant for quite a while under Hiddink, was awful at the start but everyone was and we all know why.

Every time Costa hits a bad patch Lukaku scores a few he is suddenly better and its annoying and whenever its the other way round this thread is silent.

4 minutes ago, Argo said:

He was brilliant for quite a while under Hiddink, was awful at the start but everyone was and we all know why.

Every time Costa hits a bad patch Lukaku scores a few he is suddenly better and its annoying and whenever its the other way round this thread is silent.

maybe its for the reason that since costa has come here, Lukaku has scored here 52 goals, while costa has scored 51, while playing for a team no where near the level/class of chelsea (with all due respect), and the fact that he has been far more consistent across the 3 years. While Costa has his purple patches where it seems he is unplayable (I would say around half of his time here), he also has his patches where it seems like one of the most frustrating players to watch who is devoid of a good first touch, good link up play, any aerial ability.

12 minutes ago, Argo said:

He was brilliant for quite a while under Hiddink, was awful at the start but everyone was and we all know why.

Every time Costa hits a bad patch Lukaku scores a few he is suddenly better and its annoying and whenever its the other way round this thread is silent.

Everytime Lukaku goes a game without scoring people pipe up saying this is why we shouldn't sign him. Nothing said when he goes and dominates a game and scores a number of goals by those same people. It works both ways to suit peoples agendas.

16 minutes ago, Bobbywoodhogan said:

We shall see if he does make a move if he can't step up. But he doesn't influence the big games at all and if you're a top striker you'd make something happen. 

Exactly.

When the chips are down and you need a moment of magic to win a huge game Lukaku posts missing time and time again.

He's an excellent goal scorer but in those games you need a bit of something special which sadly he doesn't possess.