My word that's one massive pile of sh*t you've just written.

 

Better than your constant predictable pattern posts that comes with 'your an idiot' as the finishing line right after the reply for your above sh*t post... a fanatic fan is what an idiot is all about.. 

To be fair, if this club didn't enjoy the success under Mourinho it did, the club probably wouldn't have as many fans like you.  So Im surprised you're so anti-Mourinho.

 

Not sure with others but to me, he's certainly part of the reasons that I've become a chelsea fan but that doesn't mean I have to create all sort of excuses for his failure as well as condoning his action on/off the pitch.. 

However the positions Jose wanted to make competitions for werent addressed as we can clearly see. Our problems this season have stemmed from midfield and defense.

Fergie wasnt signing headline players to fill position they had covered, he was upgrading places his squad was weak

Nah not interested in doing jigsaws. You stated Fergie always kept his squad on their toes by splurging which wasn't the case ( as I proved otherwise) and if buying a De Gea who was replacing Van der Saar and was benched aplenty during his first stint at Utd is keeping a squad on its toes, then we did same with Pedro.

Better than your constant predictable pattern posts that comes with 'your an idiot' as the finishing line right after the reply for your above sh*t post... a fanatic fan is what an idiot is all about..

So I'm not allowed my opinion that his post was a heap of sh*t, and that I think he's an idiot? Who are you to dictate what I can and can't post.

So I'm not allowed my opinion that his post was a heap of sh*t, and that I think he's an idiot? Who are you to dictate what I can and can't post.

Some really immature stuff lately hey! Match day dkw, come on you Blues!

To be clear dkw , I don't see you as the immature poster, sorry for any misunderstanding. You've been around long enough to show you're not.

Edited February 13, 201610 yr by Droogba

Nah not interested in doing jigsaws. 

 

well...what else you got then?

Some really immature stuff lately hey! Match day dkw, come on you Blues!

To be clear dkw , I don't see you as the immature poster, sorry for any misunderstanding. You've been around long enough to show you're not.

No worries mate. I just think anyone who believes José mourinho cried is an idiot.

well...what else you got then?

Well not the wooden shapes into the wooden holes, too advanced ;)

well...what else you got then?

hmm, either you have a massive hard on for me or you are an idiot who has a grudge with someone over the internet. which is it mate?

Well not the wooden shapes into the wooden holes, too advanced ;)

oh not to worry maybe with the happy pills ....

Nah not interested in doing jigsaws. You stated Fergie always kept his squad on their toes by splurging which wasn't the case ( as I proved otherwise) and if buying a De Gea who was replacing Van der Saar and was benched aplenty during his first stint at Utd is keeping a squad on its toes, then we did same with Pedro.

Didnt say a thing about splurging on signings. I said he regularly ran a transfers deficit and bought one or two headline players every season. You didnt prove a word of that wrong

Didnt say a thing about splurging on signings. I said he regularly ran a transfers deficit and bought one or two headline players every season. You didnt prove a word of that wrong

midfield + defence = Pogba + Stones. If that isn't splurging then I don't know what is.

midfield + defence = Pogba + Stones. If that isn't splurging then I don't know what is.

Doesnt word splurging connotate excessive spending though? Sure they would have been expensive but as far as I can see both posistions were needs

Doesnt word splurging connotate excessive spending though? Sure they would have been expensive but as far as I can see both posistions were needs

Yes you're right, what was I thinking. Over a 100mil for two players isn't splurging (silly me), nothing defines prudent better than that. Please forget it.

There is also the problem that the signings never happened, so criticising the non signings at made up monetary values is a massive waste of time.

I'm not a big fan of Jose to be honest. All that I'm one of you, beating his chest nonsense. Sexyfootball is spot on. It's all about him. He's a manipulator. He says what people want to hear. If/when he goes to manure will be a massive kick in the teeth to those who idolise him. He then should never be regarded as " one of us"

The man who won us the title after 50 years not one of us! I was at Bolton away when we won it. I saw the players and José celebrating outside after the game.

He was one of us that day and always has been.

You ungrateful little boy.

There is also the problem that the signings never happened, so criticising the non signings at made up monetary values is a massive waste of time.

Not really. Everyone knows Stones and Pogba combined would've cost silly money in excess of 100m. Everton quoted Stones as high as 50m and Pogba no less than 70. Jose didn't get these two yet his fanboys use that as an excuse for having is languishing in 6th after 16 games.....did I say 6th? Sorry I meant 16th!

And to use the stupid high valuation we refused to pay as the cost we wanted to pay is a waste of time. Jose wanted Koke but Atletico said he'd cost 70 mil so Jose wanted to spend 70 mil, it's misrepresenting the facts to further an agenda. We can argue hypotheticals all year.

 

There would (should?) have been backup options etc. You never put all your eggs in one basket. The bringing up of stones and pogba is just for proof that he wanted to freshen the squad, not that he wanted to spend 120 million on 2 players. We were linked to more than just those 2.

 

Wanting CB backup and getting djob is the problem, not 'wanting to spend 50 mil on stones'.

Edited February 14, 201610 yr by Stim

Not really. Everyone knows Stones and Pogba combined would've cost silly money in excess of 100m. Everton quoted Stones as high as 50m and Pogba no less than 70. Jose didn't get these two yet his fanboys use that as an excuse for having is languishing in 6th after 16 games.....did I say 6th? Sorry I meant 16th!

 

It's one thing to not get Stones (through our own incompetence and hubris I might add) but to then have no back-up beyond Djilobodgi is ridiculous. Everyone accept the squad needed improving by now don't they? So there has to be some kind of plan B, C and D(jilobodgi) in place doesn't there?

 

Plus fanboys? Really? Come on mate, we're all wanting the best for the club and for them to give any coach a weakened squad to start the season is unacceptable isn't it?

It's one thing to not get Stones (through our own incompetence and hubris I might add) but to then have no back-up beyond Djilobodgi is ridiculous. Everyone accept the squad needed improving by now don't they? So there has to be some kind of plan B, C and D(jilobodgi) in place doesn't there?

 

Plus fanboys? Really? Come on mate, we're all wanting the best for the club and for them to give any coach a weakened squad to start the season is unacceptable isn't it?

The team sold Petr Cech who wasnt a starter and had just won the league some previous months back. Stagnant? yes, weakened? No way.

There is also the problem that the signings never happened, so criticising the non signings at made up monetary values is a massive waste of time.

Made up monetary values?. You must mean the various websites that shared the news.

The team sold Petr Cech who wasnt a starter and had just won the league some previous months back. Stagnant? yes, weakened? No way.

 

A person could make the argument that stagnating in this league is weakening yourself, or at least allowing yourself to be overtaken.

 

However look at the changes.

 

Cech - Begovic. A good keeper but not at Cech's level and nowhere near Cech's presence.

 

Rahman - Luis. Losing an experienced, league-winner for a player with potential is good long-term, but weakens us short-term.

 

Falcao - Drogba. Drogs was still better on the pitch and off-the-pitch, it's not even the same sport. He's a huge presence.

 

Pedro - Cudrado/Salah. Marginal improvement but Pedro has shown only flashes of anything against poor teams. Marginal improvement.

 

If the best you can say about us is that we were stagnant, then that's surely the definition of damning with faint praise. At every level except commercially and the stadium, the club showed no ambition. That's shocking for a club of our size.

We wanted Stones yes but that doesn't mean we needed strengthening with JT, Zouma, Cahill and Ivan able to play well there, we wanted Stones for the future and not for the now Djilobodji was signed to replace Christensen or Ake so they could get vital loan experience.

The position we needed to strengthen at the back was not CB we needed another full back.

We also wanted another young CM, who has the potential to be one of the next worlds best, this lead to options of Pogba Koke and Veratti neither of which were available. There were no other options that fit this brief and as we saw we didn't want/ feel the need to bring in a CM that wasn't one of these options so this wasn't deemed as a necessity.

Both of these signings weren't to do with creating competition in the squad these were signings to become future world beaters and signing plan B's C's etc, will prevent either the introduction of our own youth or from bringing in a potential world beater later down the line. Some people on here have very contradictory views and signings for signings sake would have also stagnated the team not just this season but for future seasons I understand the lack of signings can be frustrating but to be tied down to a player you don't really want for 5 years is also a bad thing.

 
 

A person could make the argument that stagnating in this league is weakening yourself, or at least allowing yourself to be overtaken.

 

However look at the changes.

 

Cech - Begovic. A good keeper but not at Cech's level and nowhere near Cech's presence.

 

Rahman - Luis. Losing an experienced, league-winner for a player with potential is good long-term, but weakens us short-term.

 

Falcao - Drogba. Drogs was still better on the pitch and off-the-pitch, it's not even the same sport. He's a huge presence.

 

Pedro - Cudrado/Salah. Marginal improvement but Pedro has shown only flashes of anything against poor teams. Marginal improvement.

 

If the best you can say about us is that we were stagnant, then that's surely the definition of damning with faint praise. At every level except commercially and the stadium, the club showed no ambition. That's shocking for a club of our size.

Most of the players wanted to leave due to lack of game time, i might be wrong but i think the club always let players who want to leave have their way. Drogba was 1yr option. If rumors are to be believed, it was either Falcao or Benteke and why would the club pay 32mil to have a player sit on the bench?. I still dont get what you mean by not having ambition, i have always repeated that the sqaud is the third most expensive in Europe with the exception of City and Madrid, honestly what else is expected?.

Most of the players wanted to leave due to lack of game time, i might be wrong but i think the club always let players who want to leave have their way. Drogba was 1yr option. If rumors are to be believed, it was either Falcao or Benteke and why would the club pay 32mil to have a player sit on the bench?. I still dont get what you mean by not having ambition, i have always repeated that the sqaud is the third most expensive in Europe with the exception of City and Madrid, honestly what else is expected?.

 

The club struggled to get over the line in the second half of the season and were totally out-classed in Europe, in my opinion. Even if they weren't, the conventional wisdom is when you win the league you need to improve to go again with a couple of big signings.

 

We either stagnated or weakened the squad (and improved a rival's). So what exactly was the club stating as it's ambitions for the new season? To go and be better? No. To retain? Maybe but it was going to be a struggle.

 

Top Four? I think this was the aim.