14 hours ago, icecoolguy22 said:

That KDB is such a complete player, he will haunt us for the next decade. The cross field pass from KDB to Sterling was just perfect, apart from Cesc, I don't see anyone in the EPL could do it week in week out. It was the pass that created the goal, that was the first 1 vs 1 opportunity Sterling had. I'm going to turn on Arsenal TV now, their fans reactions after a lose is always entertaining.

One of the reasons I despise that c**t mourinho. Imagine him in our squad right now. Also think the club should've at least sent him back on loan or used a buy back clause. It was a failure all round by everyone at the club. 

I always find it strange how much little grief ozil gets from Arsenal fans. They've got players who put in a real shift like Ramsey or Giroud but they get nothing but hate and yet ozil is their little darling who can do no wrong. 

17 hours ago, Bogga said:

I gotta ask you my british friends... that young dude that appears on arsenal TV every now and then. This "fam" and "blud" that he ends every sentence with. What's up with that? Is that a thing nowadays?

I consider myself to be close to fluent when it comes to english, but it ain't my mother tongue. And I had never heard this fam-blud-sh*t prior to watching arsenal TV...

It's called a slang. I'm sure you have young people in your county too who talk with their own slangs or is Sweden full of middle class snobs who only speak "proper Swedish"

Pogba is brilliant offensivly but i am not sure i have seen any midfielder that are quite as horrific as he is defensivly. Right now Mourinho have thrown Carrick into the team which has been a brilliant move on his part and saves Pogba from some of his defensive duties but that guy do not pick up runs, or continue to mark his man if that guy makes a move. Like he always just leaves him and usually just points at him for one of his teammates to hopefully pick him up. Huge part of why United was giving away so many leads and points for a period. Did it against Crystal Palace last round aswell which led to a goal for them. Everton before that.

I am happy we have 13 points on United though. They are getting better now and have a favourable fixture list coming up for the next months. If they were any closer i'd have them as our biggest competitor for the title but you got to think we'll have enough on them now.

Edited December 19, 20169 yr by Sindre

As much as I despise Wenger I have to agree with his statement about the referees being far too protected. The standard of officiating is going down the pan year on year and requires some drastic changes. I wouldn't mind seeing technology being brought in alongside an initiative to get retired players more involved on the officiating.

11 minutes ago, Imran_CFC said:

As much as I despise Wenger I have to agree with his statement about the referees being far too protected. The standard of officiating is going down the pan year on year and requires some drastic changes. I wouldn't mind seeing technology being brought in alongside an initiative to get retired players more involved on the officiating.

I agree

But at the same time, being ok with it when his team benefited a ton in the beginning of the season and only causing a stink now that its against his team opens him up to mockery. And we of all clubs know its pointless to cause a stink because then they just treat you worse. Would take a consortium of managers in the off season or something to get the referees association to change and begin working in a more transparent, less 'protect our own' way.

That's my problem with Wenger it's always the referees fault when they lose. I remember Van Persie scoring the winner at the Bridge for them he was a mile offside yet Wenger didn't say sh*t then did he.

Ya know I was listening to 5 live yesterday and Danny Mills was talking about Oxlade Chamberlain and how he didn't think it was an injury why he was subbed. I didn't notice but he said Oxlade threw his shirt off and stormed down the tunnel.

He never seems to be looking when it benefits his team. Always misses it, didn't see it.

20 hours ago, Bobbywoodhogan said:

KDB can't cross for sh*t I need to go to Specsavers.

 

Fixed that for you Bobby.

5 minutes ago, Davey Baby said:

 

Fixed that for you Bobby.

Haha tbf in that first half every cross into the box he was making was dreadful.

2 hours ago, Sindre said:

Pogba is brilliant offensivly but i am not sure i have seen any midfielder that are quite as horrific as he is defensivly. Right now Mourinho have thrown Carrick into the team which has been a brilliant move on his part and saves Pogba from some of his defensive duties but that guy do not pick up runs, or continue to mark his man if that guy makes a move. Like he always just leaves him and usually just points at him for one of his teammates to hopefully pick him up. Huge part of why United was giving away so many leads and points for a period. Did it against Crystal Palace last round aswell which led to a goal for them. Everton before that.

I am happy we have 13 points on United though. They are getting better now and have a favourable fixture list coming up for the next months. If they were any closer i'd have them as our biggest competitor for the title but you got to think we'll have enough on them now.

Let's wait and see. They had a lot of these false dawns under Lvg too where they thought they were finally back after stringing a few wins together only to lose 3 or 4 on the trot.

youre also forgetting the man managing them and his appetite for self destruction. 

Im holding out hope for a random outburst from Jose that alienates a few players and sends the team spiraling. Otherwise United could win a treble if they carry on like this

Honestly, the league is irrelevant to them if they can focus on the three cup competitions. 4th is just as good as winning the Europa and personally I think it will be harder for them to finish 4th or 3rd etc..  than win the Europa. Jose loves himself a two legged tie. 

Edited December 19, 20169 yr by TheChelseaBlues

1 hour ago, Stim said:

I agree

But at the same time, being ok with it when his team benefited a ton in the beginning of the season and only causing a stink now that its against his team opens him up to mockery. And we of all clubs know its pointless to cause a stink because then they just treat you worse. Would take a consortium of managers in the off season or something to get the referees association to change and begin working in a more transparent, less 'protect our own' way.

Agree completely Wenger is a Whinging so & so but the point was more towards the protection of the refs, The FA should be more focused towards improving the officiating in matches rather than providing more protection to the refs by making any sort of reaction a yellow card offense.

How can the FA have time to dream up weird and wonderful new rules such as yellow card for removing your shirt & dissent yet cannot hold any ref accountable for decisions.

 

53 minutes ago, TheChelseaBlues said:

Im holding out hope for a random outburst from Jose that alienates a few players and sends the team spiraling. Otherwise United could win a treble if they carry on like this

Honestly, the league is irrelevant to them if they can focus on the three cup competitions. 4th is just as good as winning the Europa and personally I think it will be harder for them to finish 4th or 3rd etc..  than win the Europa. Jose loves himself a two legged tie. 

It's only as good as fourth as in you get the same reward of CL football but winning the Europa is greater than finishing 4th in the league cause you win a trophy. 

I actually think they'll win the Europa TBH.

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11670/10702445/arsene-wenger-will-not-face-sanctions-from-fa-over-referee-comments-say-sky-sources

So apparently the same rules that apply to other managers don't apply to Wenger. f**king joke!

The FA is such a farce, it's outdated and down right corrupt. It's like when they fine a manager or player or a club they don't have set penalties in place they make it up as they go along. They need some set rules that means all clubs, players and managers are treated the same.

They should be winning the Europa, no question.

If they don't it's a big failure.

15 minutes ago, Bobbywoodhogan said:

It's only as good as fourth as in you get the same reward of CL football but winning the Europa is greater than finishing 4th in the league cause you win a trophy. 

I actually think they'll win the Europa TBH.

Thats what I meant. The qualification is the important part. Granted United have never won that trophy, I doubt they'd care as much if qualification didnt come with it

34 minutes ago, TheChelseaBlues said:

Thats what I meant. The qualification is the important part. Granted United have never won that trophy, I doubt they'd care as much if qualification didnt come with it

Probably true

Wenger should be taken up on his comments, its not as if both decisions were blatantly offside. First one was marginal only seen on TV when the play is stopped and the line is drawn. I think that officials in cases like this when they can't be sure are instructed to give the decision to the attcking team.

The second goal is all about opinion if Silva was interfering with Cechs view. After the match the pundits were disagreeing as to what the proper decision was. 

All in all I think Wenger has nothing to gripe about and was just deflecting away from the teams awful second half performance.

 

1 hour ago, Bobbywoodhogan said:

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11670/10702445/arsene-wenger-will-not-face-sanctions-from-fa-over-referee-comments-say-sky-sources

So apparently the same rules that apply to other managers don't apply to Wenger. f**king joke!

The FA is such a farce, it's outdated and down right corrupt. It's like when they fine a manager or player or a club they don't have set penalties in place they make it up as they go along. They need some set rules that means all clubs, players and managers are treated the same.

I agree and as long as the current lot are in charge it's never going to happen is it ? It's the inconsistency that annoys fans as much as anything.

 

Matip is out for Liverpool against Everton. Klavan-Lovren against Lukaku. Lukaku should be able to score.

9 hours ago, Bobbywoodhogan said:

Maybe he feels Arsenal is a step down and he just doesn't care. Heck I remember when Arsenal won the FA Cup in 2014 and he looked disinterested after.

I think it's more he knows he can get away with it at areas Wenger is a spineless soft touch.