July 12, 201610 yr He wont go cheap. Leicester has no reason to sell and the Kanté isnt the type og player to throw his toys out the pram. If he moves its going to tale at least 40 million. And considering what Roma want for Nainggolan Id say thats perfectly reasonable. If you think they will sell him to us on the cheap you are dreamlng
July 12, 201610 yr Ah, i see. That makes the situation more complicated for sure. I assume Leicester must have accepted that offer from China then but Kante declined. But then i wonder if that offer is "of the table" so to speak since its not an alternative for the player anyways and us and lets say Real Madrid can both bid 21 million and you have to accept. If that £35m bid is true, then it would have met the clause which was £20m. So now effectively the buyout clause is £35m and 1p, as we know the player won't go there, but it's effectively still the only accepted bid.
July 12, 201610 yr I remember Suarez has a similar contract and Liverpool decided to ignorere it. These release clauses dont mean much
July 12, 201610 yr I remember Suarez has a similar contract and Liverpool decided to ignorere it. These release clauses dont mean much Just depends on the wording, they are all different with little clauses here and there. Key thing is really I don't think he or the club had any idea how good he was going to be. Nobody expected him to become a £40m player. If after we signed him for £5m last summer, you'd have said we could have sold him for £20ma year later. I'd have said that was great business.... now it would be bloody awful business!!!!!
July 12, 201610 yr Just depends on the wording, they are all different with little clauses here and there. Key thing is really I don't think he or the club had any idea how good he was going to be. Nobody expected him to become a £40m player. If after we signed him for £5m last summer, you'd have said we could have sold him for £20ma year later. I'd have said that was great business.... now it would be bloody awful business!!!!! Why don't we see how it goes first before getting a tad presumptuous. As you said, its still hearsay and rumor at this point.
July 12, 201610 yr I remember Suarez has a similar contract and Liverpool decided to ignorere it. These release clauses dont mean muchBuyout clause is for the player himself to buy the contract out. If there is a Buyout clause with Kante Leicester can do little to prevent him from leaving.
July 12, 201610 yr Buyout clause is for the player himself to buy the contract out. If there is a Buyout clause with Kante Leicester can do little to prevent him from leaving. Im a lawyer, trust me when I say theres always a loophole
July 12, 201610 yr Why am I not that excited about this... I know he is what we basically need.Because he isn't £40mil+ And bought from a big club. Don't worry a lot of Chelsea fans are in the same boat. Not me though, Kante is fantastic.
July 13, 201610 yr According to Le Parisien we have signed him on a five year deal. 35 million euros is the fee. Good price in todays market. Hope its true.
July 13, 201610 yr Because he isn't £40mil+ And bought from a big club. Don't worry a lot of Chelsea fans are in the same boat. Not me though, Kante is fantastic. Well the rumoured fee of £30m is somewhat more palatable than £20m, I'd have been furious to only get that... it's still an absolute bargain in the current market. We'll see what happens though, there was lots of this stuff written about Vardy and he stayed. Until you see him holding a shirt it's never a sure thing. The lads a sensation he really is, I've never seen anyone like him. Covers every blade of grass, an unreal reading of the game so that he just finds himself in the right place to intercept a ball or make a tackle. I've never seen anyone get standing ovations pretty much every game for some of the tackles and interceptions he makes. Almost never goes to ground and I think he only got booked once or twice last year... which for the highest tackler and interceptor in europe is incredible. He'll give you 8/10 - 9/10 every single game, honestly can't remember him having an off day or being out of a game. He's always involved, whether it's tackling and breaking up play, or bombing forward. Don't expect him to be creative, it's just not his game. He'll win the ball, carry it forward quickly and pass it to someone to do the damage.
July 13, 201610 yr Well the rumoured fee of £30m is somewhat more palatable than £20m, I'd have been furious to only get that... it's still an absolute bargain in the current market. We'll see what happens though, there was lots of this stuff written about Vardy and he stayed. Until you see him holding a shirt it's never a sure thing. The lads a sensation he really is, I've never seen anyone like him. Covers every blade of grass, an unreal reading of the game so that he just finds himself in the right place to intercept a ball or make a tackle. I've never seen anyone get standing ovations pretty much every game for some of the tackles and interceptions he makes. Almost never goes to ground and I think he only got booked once or twice last year... which for the highest tackler and interceptor in europe is incredible. He'll give you 8/10 - 9/10 every single game, honestly can't remember him having an off day or being out of a game. He's always involved, whether it's tackling and breaking up play, or bombing forward. Don't expect him to be creative, it's just not his game. He'll win the ball, carry it forward quickly and pass it to someone to do the damage. I am a little worried about his passing and him losing/giving the ball away in dangerous positions. As someone who saw many Leicester-games last season, is that a valid concern? I saw quite a few on TV and he was usually great but his passing do worry me a littlebit.
July 13, 201610 yr I am a little worried about his passing and him losing/giving the ball away in dangerous positions. As someone who saw many Leicester-games last season, is that a valid concern? I saw quite a few on TV and he was usually great but his passing do worry me a littlebit. I don't think so, he had the highest if one of the highest passing percentages for France in the Euros. People make a big deal about our passing, it's not that all the players can't pass. It's that they are often risky passes and playing at very high speed to get forward quickly. When you play at speed and take risks then you're more liable to make an error. If you ask him to be more cautious, then he'll keep more ball. It's down to how you want to use him. For reference his pass completion was 82% for us, Fabregas was 84% for you and Matic 88% last season. It's not like he's got that far to improve. If he gives it away, it's highly unlikely it will be in a dangerous position anyway, even if he does... he'll just go and win it back again. I honestly cannot stress how bloody good he is at winning the ball back. Edited July 13, 201610 yr by foxedup
July 13, 201610 yr Talk of a deal being agreed appears to be from a Parisian newspaper and other outlets are quoting this source. I remain cynical.... ...but would be happy for this to happen.
July 13, 201610 yr Agreed, it's definitely worth bearing in mind just how vertical Leicester's style was last season. That intent will definitely have a bearing on a player's pass completion ratio; Fabregas' ratio was worse than Matic, yet I doubt anyone would argue that he is an inferior passer of the ball!
July 13, 201610 yr If I remember correctly, Kantè won the ball something like 9.5 times a game, which is an absolutely staggering number. For referance thats 3 times more then number 2 in all of Europes top Leagues.
July 13, 201610 yr Talk of a deal being agreed appears to be from a Parisian newspaper and other outlets are quoting this source. I remain cynical.... ...but would be happy for this to happen. So you should, if the contact clause is true that's reported... the highest bid over £20m is automatically accepted. What may be the highest bid now, might not be the highest bid come 3pm this afternoon. Or this could all have been set up by an agent, like Vardy's was, when it became his choice he decided to stay. Talk of a deal being "agreed" by Leicester is probably premature, we don't have much choice if it's the highest bid. Good sources suggest we're still in the process of going back with an even larger contract offer for him.
July 13, 201610 yr Talk of a deal being agreed appears to be from a Parisian newspaper and other outlets are quoting this source. I remain cynical.... ...but would be happy for this to happen. Tbf they along with Le Equipe reported last week that Chelsea would bid for Kante immediately after the Euros. Edited July 13, 201610 yr by summer is coming
July 13, 201610 yr So you should, if the contact clause is true that's reported... the highest bid over £20m is automatically accepted. What may be the highest bid now, might not be the highest bid come 3pm this afternoon. Or this could all have been set up by an agent, like Vardy's was, when it became his choice he decided to stay. Talk of a deal being "agreed" by Leicester is probably premature, we don't have much choice if it's the highest bid. Good sources suggest we're still in the process of going back with an even larger contract offer for him. Accepting a higher bid doesn't amount to the player joining the highest bidder also no offence but you can't offer him a better contract than us unless of course you intend unsettling some folks in the dressing room.
July 13, 201610 yr Accepting a higher bid doesn't amount to the player joining the highest bidder It does amount to us being able to tell you to sling your hook should be wish to though, your bid would be null and void as far as the release clause is concerned. So we could say, you go to the highest bidder or you stay... if we wanted to. also no offence but you can't offer him a better contract than us unless of course you intend unsettling some folks in the dressing room. I'm well aware you could beat any offer we put on the table, but that does not mean you will want to. Arsenal could beat any offer we gave Vardy, but we offered him very close to what they did and he decided to stay.
July 13, 201610 yr It does amount to us being able to tell you to sling your hook should be wish to though, your bid would be null and void as far as the release clause is concerned. So we could say, you go to the highest bidder or you stay... if we wanted to. I'm well aware you could beat any offer we put on the table, but that does not mean you will want to. Arsenal could beat any offer we gave Vardy, but we offered him very close to what they did and he decided to stay. Here's an explanation I got for triggering release clauses:What is a release clause? It is a clause in a player’s contract that, subject to qualifying conditions (i.e. a particular transfer window or non-participation in the Champions League), automatically requires a club to accept an offer of a pre-determined contractual amount expressly set out in the contract from the offering club. If the minimum amount stipulated in the contract is triggered by a the purchasing club, the player will be entitled to speak to that club. http://www.danielgeey.com/buy-out-release-clauses-in-football-the-basics/ I don't think it agrees with your theory of rejecting a bid after it triggers a release clause. Everyone man and dog knows Arsenal FC is ran by penny pitchers, trust me you can't enter a wage war with us. IMO it all boils down to the player if truly wants to stay or not. Edited July 13, 201610 yr by summer is coming
July 13, 201610 yr All release clauses arent equal. Without seeing his actual contract, theres no way to determine the Language stipulated and the exact terms on how to trigger the realese clause. If it is indeed like foxedup says, then we have to outbid whoever the highest bidder. Since we apparently bid 35m euros I think its safe to assume his 25 mill £ release clause was BS
July 13, 201610 yr Here's an explanation I got for triggering release clauses: What is a release clause? It is a clause in a player’s contract that, subject to qualifying conditions (i.e. a particular transfer window or non-participation in the Champions League), automatically requires a club to accept an offer of a pre-determined contractual amount expressly set out in the contract from the offering club. If the minimum amount stipulated in the contract is triggered by a the purchasing club, the player will be entitled to speak to that club. http://www.danielgeey.com/buy-out-release-clauses-in-football-the-basics/ I don't think it agrees with your theory of rejecting a bid after it triggers a release clause. Everyone man and dog knows Arsenal FC is ran by penny pitchers, trust me you can't enter a wage war with us. IMO it all boils down to the player if truly wants to stay or not. Not every contract is the same and it has been said on here and reported hundreds of times that Leicester only have to accept the highest bid OVER £20m. If you offer £20m +1p and nobody else does then you get him. If someone offers 35m, then his contract states that only that offer has to be accepted. This is being repeated by all the ITK's, so I'd imagine there is a grain of truth to it. There are probably dozens of stipulations about time frames etc. I never said we would enter a wage war, I said we were going to offer him an improved contract which would be £120k a week according to reports. I've said you can beat any offer we make, but as per Vardy... some people won't accept the highest offer if there is a pretty attractive one on the table somewhere you already love being. N'Golo drives around in a Mini, plods about in cheapo jeans, t-shirts and trackies, lived in a small flat. He's not the sort of person who is going to chase an extra bit of cash, that goes against everything we know about the bloke. If he goes, it's because he sees it as a better long term option, which is fair enough. Edited July 13, 201610 yr by foxedup
July 13, 201610 yr Not every contract is the same and it has been said on here and reported hundreds of times that Leicester only have to accept the highest bid OVER £20m. If you offer £20m +1p and nobody else does then you get him. If someone offers 35m, then his contract states that only that offer has to be accepted. This is being repeated by all the ITK's, so I'd imagine there is a grain of truth to it. There are probably dozens of stipulations about time frames etc. I never said we would enter a wage war, I said we were going to offer him an improved contract which would be £120k a week according to reports. I've said you can beat any offer we make, but as per Vardy... some people won't accept the highest offer if there is a pretty attractive one on the table somewhere you already love being. N'Golo drives around in a Mini, plods about in cheapo jeans, t-shirts and trackies, lived in a small flat. He's not the sort of person who is going to chase an extra bit of cash, that goes against everything we know about the bloke. If he goes, it's because he sees it as a better long term option, which is fair enough. You guys bought another defensive midfielder for a club record fee just a few weeks ago didn't you? That would tell me that the club is prepared for Kante leaving.
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