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N'golo Kante - We are not worthy!

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His passing is absolutely fine, people make it sound like he's playing in clogs. Yes he'll have some go astray, but that's because he plays at a high tempo and plays very quickly, rather than him not being able to kick it in a straight line.

His passing is fine, but when you're aspiring to compete with likes of juve, barca, real, bayern, and Atlético, I think it's fair to say his passing is below the level of their midfielders at the moment.

I'm not saying he is a poor passer, but an area of his game that could be improved, I know he isn't in the team for his passing, but neither was makelele yet id say he was technically superior to kante as well.

Kante is still young enough to improve further, and answer any questions marks raised over his ability on the ball.

Hopefully it's ourselves that get to see him grow into one of the world best, rather than Leicester.

Rumours of real being after him have died down then eh?

Two minds on this one. On the one hand we really need to improve our midfield (and our defence as well) and he would likely be a very good help with that.

On the other I want to see the foxes as strong as possible for their cl run. See the Cinderella story continue.

Rob Tanner write for the Mercury too?   So the Mercury have never been the most reliable with Leicester anyway have they (depending on writer? You'd think theyd be pretty spot on every time given theyre local

They've never had a great relationship with the club since they turned on the old directors many moons ago. I think they've been kept at arms length ever since and never really got the trust back.

One good season for Kante and one bad season for Matic and now Kante is twice the player Matic is.

Be interesting to watch Kante because Drinkwater is the creativity and passer while Kante is the legs.

Rumours of real being after him have died down then eh?

Two minds on this one. On the one hand we really need to improve our midfield (and our defence as well) and he would likely be a very good help with that.

On the other I want to see the foxes as strong as possible for their cl run. See the Cinderella story continue.

 

I want to see Leicester do well in the Champions League too, but Chelsea has to come first and if that means Leicester struggle and we improve then so be it. 

His passing is fine, but when you're aspiring to compete with likes of juve, barca, real, bayern, and Atlético, I think it's fair to say his passing is below the level of their midfielders at the moment.

I'm not saying he is a poor passer, but an area of his game that could be improved, I know he isn't in the team for his passing, but neither was makelele yet id say he was technically superior to kante as well.

Kante is still young enough to improve further, and answer any questions marks raised over his ability on the ball.

Hopefully it's ourselves that get to see him grow into one of the world best, rather than Leicester.

 

His pass success rate in the Euros was 92.1%, His rate for us, a team that wasn't arsed about keeping the ball but taking risks and bombing forward as quick as you can, was 82%. He will adapt to what is asked of him.

 

Played in the right formation, I honestly believe he could grace almost any team but one in that list, because he's so exceptional at the defensive parts of his game. He'll never have silky skills, or be curling one in the top corner, but with the right guys around him he doesn't need to. Just as they won't need to track back whilst he seemingly covers about three positions at once.

One good season for Kante and one bad season for Matic and now Kante is twice the player Matic is.

Be interesting to watch Kante because Drinkwater is the creativity and passer while Kante is the legs.

Here is a comparison between both of their recent title winning seasons.

 

Kante wins on assists, tackles won, key passes, chances created and interceptions. Matic has one more goal and a better pass completion rate (expected in a passing team).

 

http://www.squawka.com/comparison-matrix#premier_league/2015/2016/n$golo_kant%C3%A9/165/165/14999/0/p|premier_league/2015/2016/nemanja_matic/165/165/9284/0/p#pass_completion/assists/tackles_won/key_passes/chances_created/interceptions#90

Here is a comparison between both of their recent title winning seasons.

Kante wins on assists, tackles won, key passes, chances created and interceptions. Matic has one more goal and a better pass completion rate (expected in a passing team).

http://www.squawka.com/comparison-matrix#premier_league/2015/2016/n$golo_kanté/165/165/14999/0/p|premier_league/2015/2016/nemanja_matic/165/165/9284/0/p#pass_completion/assists/tackles_won/key_passes/chances_created/interceptions#90

Tbh them stats mean nothing and I can dispute them. There different seasons in different teams against different opposition. The opposition Chelsea faced was stronger, last season was the worst year for premier league quality.

Kante is an Essien type player, box to box so he should have more assists, goals and chances created. Matic is more of a defensive midfielder who allows Fabregas to go forward. You watch Leicester and Drinkwater is the sitting midfielder.

Also when Chelsea won the league they was the attacking team and did much less defending than Leicester, Leicester are a counter attacking team with Drinkwater looking for Vardy, so they will be tackling and defending more.

I'm not defending Matic who was awful last year or saying Kante is rubbish because I don't think that. But to compare them both after one season and then say Kante is twice the player is over the top.

Comparing the stats of different kind of players is also pointless too.

Edited by Ernie_blue

Here is a comparison between both of their recent title winning seasons.

Kante wins on assists, tackles won, key passes, chances created and interceptions. Matic has one more goal and a better pass completion rate (expected in a passing team).

http://www.squawka.com/comparison-matrix#premier_league/2015/2016/n$golo_kant%C3%A9/165/165/14999/0/p|premier_league/2015/2016/nemanja_matic/165/165/9284/0/p#pass_completion/assists/tackles_won/key_passes/chances_created/interceptions#90

You would expect kante to come out on top in terms of tackles and interceptions, for the same reason Matic should have a better pass completion.

Kante definitely had the better overall season though, Matic never looked the same after that sending off at home to burnley, and his form only went down going into the next season.

Tbh them stats mean nothing and I can dispute them. There different seasons in different teams against different opposition. The opposition Chelsea faced was stronger, last season was the worst year for premier league quality.

Kante is an Essien type player, box to box so he should have more assists, goals and chances created. Matic is more of a defensive midfielder who allows Fabregas to go forward. You watch Leicester and Drinkwater is the sitting midfielder.

Also when Chelsea won the league they was the attacking team and did much less defending than Leicester, Leicester are a counter attacking team with Drinkwater looking for Vardy, so they will be tackling and defending more.

I'm not defending Matic who was awful last year or saying Kante is rubbish because I don't think that. But to compare them both after one season and then say Kante is twice the player is over the top.

Comparing the stats of different kind of players is also pointless too.

 

Kante isn't really what I would consider a true box-2-box.  He sits really deep and breaks up play then lets off to someone else almost immediately.  I'd say Kante is more of a true DM than Matic is.  Matic this year was exposed a bit as not a true DM who can cover lots of ground.  Kante IS that type of player and is exactly what we need. 

Kante isn't really what I would consider a true box-2-box.  He sits really deep and breaks up play then lets off to someone else almost immediately.  I'd say Kante is more of a true DM than Matic is.  Matic this year was exposed a bit as not a true DM who can cover lots of ground.  Kante IS that type of player and is exactly what we need.

Difference of an opinion. I see Drinkwater as the DM, there's no way in my eyes Matic and Kante play the same role and position. A DM actually doesn't need to do much running because they rely on just playing DM and there only job is to play in front of the back 4. Kante runs about all over the pitch and going forward, that's a box to box midfielder.

If Kante does that playing DM then there be gaps everywhere.

One good season for Kante and one bad season for Matic and now Kante is twice the player Matic is.

Be interesting to watch Kante because Drinkwater is the creativity and passer while Kante is the legs.

Kanté has had more then one good season and Matic has been rubbish for a good year and a half now. Kanté is definetly the better player and a true DM. Which Matic has shown he clearly isnt.

Difference of an opinion. I see Drinkwater as the DM, there's no way in my eyes Matic and Kante play the same role and position. A DM actually doesn't need to do much running because they rely on just playing DM and there only job is to play in front of the back 4. Kante runs about all over the pitch and going forward, that's a box to box midfielder.

If Kante does that playing DM then there be gaps everywhere.

I think you agreed with me in your second sentence?  I don't think Kante and Matic are similar at all.  Kante covers loads of ground in front of the back four.  That's a DM.  He breaks up plays all over his side of the pitch and doesn't tend to venture into the final third much.  Matic, when asked to do a similar job to what Kante did, really struggled.  

Kanté has had more then one good season and Matic has been rubbish for a good year and a half now. Kanté is definetly the better player and a true DM. Which Matic has shown he clearly isnt.

You probably didn't even know who Kante was before he joined Leicester and yes he has had one good season in the prem.

Stop with the true DM, a true DM is like Pirlo, Makelele or Carrick. Kantes style of football is nothing like that. I don't understand all this true DM rubbish, he plays nothing like that. Drinkwater is the true DM of the Leicester city team.

By the way this is not slagging off Kante or defending Matic, I would really like to see Kante at Chelsea.

I think you agreed with me in your second sentence?  I don't think Kante and Matic are similar at all.  Kante covers loads of ground in front of the back four.  That's a DM.  He breaks up plays all over his side of the pitch and doesn't tend to venture into the final third much.  Matic, when asked to do a similar job to what Kante did, really struggled.

There not similar players because I feel Kante is a box to box player while Matic is a DM. A DM in most teams is like Carrick, Matic, Pirlo etc. Players who sit in front of the back four and that's all they do. A DM doesn't actually run around the pitch because it will leave spaces behind him.

Kante is more like an Essien, Fernandinho or a better Ramires who plays around the DM but pressurises the midfield, intercepts and breaks up the play.

There not similar players because I feel Kante is a box to box player while Matic is a DM. A DM in most teams is like Carrick, Matic, Pirlo etc. Players who sit in front of the back four and that's all they do. A DM doesn't actually run around the pitch because it will leave spaces behind him.

Kante is more like an Essien, Fernandinho or a better Ramires who plays around the DM but pressurises the midfield, intercepts and breaks up the play.

I dont think I could disagree more tbh

Kanté is far more similar to Maka than any of those three players you mentioned are to each other.

It's not about the type of player but the position they played, Pirlo and Carrick are better on the ball but played DM, Maka played DM but was better at the defensive side of the game.

Kante doesn't sit there in front of the back four playing DM, it's actually Drinkwater. He collects the ball and has a great range or passing. Kante does the leg work, intercepting, pressuring etc.

You probably didn't even know who Kante was before he joined Leicester and yes he has had one good season in the prem

So lets throw his play at Caen out the window he has had one good seasons at Leicester and Matic has had two good half a seasons at Chelsea. Kantés was better and he actually performed for a whole season. Calling him twice the player might be over the top, but he is certainly the superior player

So lets throw his play at Caen out the window he has had one good seasons at Leicester and Matic has had two good half a seasons at Chelsea. Kantés was better and he actually performed for a whole season. Calling him twice the player might be over the top, but he is certainly the superior player

So we're ignoring Matic at benfica then?

So lets throw his play at Caen out the window he has had one good seasons at Leicester and Matic has had two good half a seasons at Chelsea. Kantés was better and he actually performed for a whole season. Calling him twice the player might be over the top, but he is certainly the superior player

After last season yeah but at the end of the day no Chelsea player played well last year. Even William was poor the second half of the season.

As long as if Mikel finally goes I will be happy.

If we are ignoring Kante in France, then yes.

You didn't, but did ignore matic in Portugal.

You didn't, but did ignore matic in Portugal.

When did I do that? I said Matic has had more then one season of awful play, I said he had two good half seasons at Chelsea and that Kanté has had more then one season of high level play. Matic and his performance was never brought up and never ignored. Ernie only wanted to talk about their time in the Premier League so we did

You brought kantés previous club into it yet only mentioned matic having one good seasons at Chelsea. Basically both have had previous good seasons,matic has had one bad one. Matic at his peak was a match for Kante at his peak.

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