45 minutes ago, dansubrosa said:

Even Arsenal managed to wrap up a deal quicker than us. 

Who? Lacazette?

We've probably signed more if you take into account our youth team additions... 

13 minutes ago, doctorblue said:

We've probably signed more if you take into account our youth team additions... 

Who are basically never going to make it with us nor contribute to the first team in any meaningful way, which is nice. 

Edited July 5, 20179 yr by MissouriBlue

8 minutes ago, MissouriBlue said:

Who are basically never going to make it with us nor contribute to the first team in any meaningful way, which is nice. 

They will contribute to the bank account....which hopefully we will spend 

Just now, DonAntonio said:

They will contribute to the bank account....which hopefully we will spend 

Meh. If I wanted to follow a club that was more interested in pie charts than competing I would jump ship and support Arsenal.

1 minute ago, MissouriBlue said:

Meh. If I wanted to follow a club that was more interested in pie charts than competing I would jump ship and support Arsenal.

How about one that's interested in winning trophies.

Just now, dkw said:

How about one that's interested in winning trophies.

Because we can't afford any players without having youngsters to sell on for 5 mil a pop...

1 minute ago, MissouriBlue said:

Because we can't afford any players without having youngsters to sell on for 5 mil a pop...

Not if we want to be self sufficient, which we now are. Until our ground is built we rely on other income streams, youth players being one.

1 minute ago, dkw said:

Not if we want to be self sufficient, which we now are. Until our ground is built we rely on other income streams, youth players being one.

Quite depressing though isn't it? 100 youth players and you will get zero make it. You would think at least one could and would since Roman has been with us. 

Just now, MissouriBlue said:

Quite depressing though isn't it? 100 youth players and you will get zero make it. You would think at least one could and would since Roman has been with us. 

It's not great but I still feel we have never had an academy player good enough to be first choice over our other players. I really hope some day we do, but I'm just not as bothered by it as many seem to be.

1 minute ago, dkw said:

It's not great but I still feel we have never had an academy player good enough to be first choice over our other players. I really hope some day we do, but I'm just not as bothered by it as many seem to be.

Not trying to be rude but that's really very easy for us to say when we don't see these boys train every day, etc. It's easy for us to base our judgments on a cameo appearance for the senior side, on loan somewhere gray and northern or for youth levels. I'm not actually talking about being first choice but I am talking about giving them more minutes than we possibly have.

6 minutes ago, dkw said:

It's not great but I still feel we have never had an academy player good enough to be first choice over our other players. I really hope some day we do, but I'm just not as bothered by it as many seem to be.

I'm sure that's a thinly veiled shot at me, I don't really care. I think that we should be bothered that we won't ever have a Harry Kane, Tom Davies, etc as long as we continue the current trend. I guess maybe we see two different paths to the same goal of Chels dominance. 

7 minutes ago, MissouriBlue said:

Meh. If I wanted to follow a club that was more interested in pie charts than competing I would jump ship and support Arsenal.

Haha well we don't make money we owe Abramovic a billion, Arsenal actually make money and forfeit competing, but as for us the more we generate the more competitive we will be. FFP and Roman not willing to dip in like before means we must make money to stay top level. 

We always make money on young players, except if we buy them back for a 100 mil, but buy back clause fixes that.

Our youth system is not appreciated by fans but only because they are looking at it to produce a squad of john Terry's but the club look at it as a revenue generation endeavour with the added bonus of potentially developing a john terry and we are brilliant at it.

In a grass roots world youth coming up is the point in an academy but we are not a grass roots team any more and sure don't have a grass root fan base. 

We live in a commercial world and CFC is a commercial entity, has to be to compete it's just the way things are now. 

I'd happily go back to being a local club with limited global appeal and bring through youth, for me as a school boy in the 90's we had global fans but not a fraction of the number, football culture wise I liked it, but I must say it would be hard to give up the glory now we have tasted it even if it would mean shaking piss pot tin can fans @didierforever who talk about things integral to a grass roots club culture who have f**k all to do with that but are very much part of the global club culture which forces us not to have youth come through.....ironic, goes without saying these comments aren't pointed at you just commentating on the views of some global fans who don't get the situation. 

It's not a shot at anyone, it's just my feeling on it. Maybe it's because I grew up with plenty of home grown lads in the team, I don't know. I just am not as desperate to see a load of our kids make the breakthrough as many others are. Doesn't mean I'm right and your wrong, just means our opinions are different.

12 minutes ago, DonAntonio said:

Haha well we don't make money we owe Abramovic a billion, Arsenal actually make money and forfeit competing, but as for us the more we generate the more competitive we will be. FFP and Roman not willing to dip in like before means we must make money to stay top level. 

We always make money on young players, except if we buy them back for a 100 mil, but buy back clause fixes that.

Our youth system is not appreciated by fans but only because they are looking at it to produce a squad of john Terry's but the club look at it as a revenue generation endeavour with the added bonus of potentially developing a john terry and we are brilliant at it.

In a grass roots world youth coming up is the point in an academy but we are not a grass roots team any more and sure don't have a grass root fan base. 

We live in a commercial world and CFC is a commercial entity, has to be to compete it's just the way things are now. 

I'd happily go back to being a local club with limited global appeal and bring through youth, for me as a school boy in the 90's we had global fans but not a fraction of the number, football culture wise I liked it, but I must say it would be hard to give up the glory now we have tasted it even if it would mean shaking piss pot tin can fans @didierforever who talk about things integral to a grass roots club culture who have f**k all to do with that but are very much part of the global club culture which forces us not to have youth come through.....ironic, goes without saying these comments aren't pointed at you just commentating on the views of some global fans who don't get the situation. 

It's a double edged sword I know but I just think without some proper Chels players in the side we are slowly losing the soul of the club and it's identity on the pitch. 

Chalobah definitey has blue blood in his veins but sadly he will get tossed to the wayside to make room for an import. Pretty sad really when you think of it that way. Basically just another indicator of our slow and grinding progression towards globalisation. The dream is to have a team totally devoid of character or any human qualities by 2050. Lol.

Edited July 5, 20179 yr by MissouriBlue

8 minutes ago, DonAntonio said:

Haha well we don't make money we owe Abramovic a billion, Arsenal actually make money and forfeit competing, but as for us the more we generate the more competitive we will be. FFP and Roman not willing to dip in like before means we must make money to stay top level. 

We always make money on young players, except if we buy them back for a 100 mil, but buy back clause fixes that.

Our youth system is not appreciated by fans but only because they are looking at it to produce a squad of john Terry's but the club look at it as a revenue generation endeavour with the added bonus of potentially developing a john terry and we are brilliant at it.

In a grass roots world youth coming up is the point in an academy but we are not a grass roots team any more and sure don't have a grass root fan base. 

We live in a commercial world and CFC is a commercial entity, has to be to compete it's just the way things are now. 

I'd happily go back to being a local club with limited global appeal and bring through youth, for me as a school boy in the 90's we had global fans but not a fraction of the number, football culture wise I liked it, but I must say it would be hard to give up the glory now we have tasted it even if it would mean shaking piss pot tin can fans @didierforever who talk about things integral to a grass roots club culture who have f**k all to do with that but are very much part of the global club culture which forces us not to have youth come through.....ironic, goes without saying these comments aren't pointed at you just commentating on the views of some global fans who don't get the situation. 

Breaks my heart to see fans like you who have such a massive understanding of the club, spending your time writing on a forum, trying to prove to people that you have so much more knowledge of different sports. With all your wealth of knowledge, should not you be running a club of your own somewhere?

Or wait, are you just another fan? Like us "global fans" trying to enjoy the game and understanding the game. I mean it was weird how wrong you got the costa situation with all your amazing insights into the footballing world. 

Edited July 5, 20179 yr by didierforever

17 minutes ago, dkw said:

Not if we want to be self sufficient, which we now are. Until our ground is built we rely on other income streams, youth players being one.

Thank you so f**king much....

6 minutes ago, didierforever said:

Breaks my heart to see fans like you who have such a massive understanding of the club, spending your time writing on a forum, trying to prove to people that you have so much more knowledge of different sports. With all your wealth of knowledge, should not you be running a club of your own somewhere?

Or wait, are you just another fan? Like us "global fans" trying to enjoy the game and understanding the game. I mean it was weird how wrong you got the costa situation with all your amazing insights into the footballing world. 

Shots fired!

4 minutes ago, MissouriBlue said:

Shots fired!

Here I am watching Nadal play Donald Young, and I get a pop up where I get called "shaking piss pot tin can fans". 

However you pronounce his name, from the limited bits i have seen of him, he looks like the perfect partner for Kante. 

13 minutes ago, MissouriBlue said:

It's a double edged sword I know but I just think without some proper Chels players in the side we are slowly losing the soul of the club and it's identity on the pitch. 

Chalobah definitey has blue blood in his veins but sadly he will get tossed to the wayside to make room for an import. Pretty sad really when you think of it that way. Basically just another indicator of our slow and grinding progression towards globalisation. The dream is to have a team totally devoid of character or any human wualityies by 2050. Lol.

Every club that went from local to global is losing that identity we are a global brand, a good manager can give a club a certain feel, fergie kept the twats a global brand while keeping club identity but now he has gone, no atmosphere there, this is one thing the got no 'istory w**ks have on us, who are we? We are a west London club that were good at kicking people's heads in, now we have fans in Mumbai arguing with local fans about grass root club issues they have never been round it's s lot of change in a short period. JT tied the two eras together, now he is gone we are still building an identity as a global elite club we are still finding ourselves on this stage, if conte stays for 10 years and builds a new core it would build that identity no end 

1 minute ago, coco said:

However you pronounce his name, from the limited bits i have seen of him, he looks like the perfect partner for Kante. 

I see what you did there...I've been a naughty boy recently my apologies.

Are we concerned about his knee problem history? No further developments here but maybe we are concerned with another Remy situation at a much higher cost. Factor that with rudiger having his ACL recovery and llorente getting over a broke arm and we appear to be shopping from the broken list lol

Just now, axman2526 said:

Are we concerned about his knee problem history? No further developments here but maybe we are concerned with another Remy situation at a much higher cost. Factor that with rudiger having his ACL recovery and llorente getting over a broke arm and we appear to be shopping from the broken list lol

I think you're being a little dramatic. Costa also had a calf problem history before he joined us. Probably a good 20-25% of players in football have some sort of injury history, no matter how small. If you have a good medical team, you'll be fine.

More tongue in cheek fella, or meant to be, just looking at possible reasons the deal may be being delayed. 

2 hours ago, axman2526 said:

Are we concerned about his knee problem history? No further developments here but maybe we are concerned with another Remy situation at a much higher cost. Factor that with rudiger having his ACL recovery and llorente getting over a broke arm and we appear to be shopping from the broken list lol

Sturridge wasn't that crocked when he was with us so I have confidence in Chelsea's medical team and fitness department