Dunno what to make of Sarri really. He has never won a trophy which is a bit worrying and he seemed to bottle it this year in the league finishing second.

 

49 minutes ago, Davey Baby said:

 

I wouldn't say I was hoping for Eddie Howe, he would be far from my first choice, but I wouldn't be unhappy with him, for reasons I previously stated. Certainly I think he deserves a bigger club.

 

Incidentally, I'm still waiting for somebody to tell me how Sarri did in the cups while he was at Napoli, and how he did in Europe. We know he hasn't won anything, we know he got a lot of points and finished second to Juventus, but I think he's been at Napoli 3 years, a club which had won silverware with its previous manager, and undoubtedly now one of the best clubs in Italy. How did he get on? If somebody's got that info, let's have a look. It's all very well people talking about pretty football but let's have a closer look at the results.

I thought it was rhetorical question about how he got on the cups, since you said in the same post you said he had done abysmal in Europe, and he hasn't won any trophy. 

5 minutes ago, Jezq8 said:

Dunno what to make of Sarri really. He has never won a trophy which is a bit worrying and he seemed to bottle it this year in the league finishing second.

 

bottled the league? He's the first ever manager in that league to hit 90+ points and not win the league. If we hit 90+ points next season i won't be complaining.

1 minute ago, big blue said:

I thought it was rhetorical question about how he got on the cups, since you said in the same post you said he had done abysmal in Europe, and he hasn't won any trophy. 

 

I genuinely don't know how he got on in the cups, other than he obviously didn't win any. Be interesting to see, considering Napoli were the second best team in Italy under his stewardship.

 

As for Europe, I don't remember Napoli doing well in the CL or the EL under him, so again, genuinely curious.

10 minutes ago, Davey Baby said:

 

I genuinely don't know how he got on in the cups, other than he obviously didn't win any. Be interesting to see, considering Napoli were the second best team in Italy under his stewardship.

 

As for Europe, I don't remember Napoli doing well in the CL or the EL under him, so again, genuinely curious.

He basically put out a makeshift side against Leipzig in the EL so he could focus on the league. 

 

Edited May 23, 20188 yr by JMaher94

11 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

bottled the league? He's the first ever manager in that league to hit 90+ points and not win the league. If we hit 90+ points next season i won't be complaining.

People also seem to forget Napoli hardly spend big money on new players. The only time Napoli have spent big with Sarri in charge was when they sold the best striker in the League to their main title rivals and used that money to fund new players

Even though they lost one of their best players to Juventus and are unable to financially compete with their rivals Sarri has managed to keep them near the top  

22 minutes ago, Davey Baby said:

 

I genuinely don't know how he got o in the cups, other than he obviously didn't win any. Be interesting to see, considering Napoli were the second best team in Italy under his stewardship.

 

As for Europe, I don't remember Napoli doing well in the CL or the EL under him, so again, genuinely curious.

15/16
Coppa Italia quarter final - lost 2-0 to Inter
Europa League Round of 32 - lost 2-1 to Villarreal

16/17
Coppa Italia semi final - lost 5-4 on aggregate to Juventus
Champions League Round of 16 - lost 6-2 on aggregate to Real Madrid

17/18
Champions League Group Stage - finished 3rd below Shaktar/Man City (notably lost 2-1 away to Feyenoord)
Europa League Round of 32 - went out to RB Leipzig 3-3 on away goals (lost 3-1 at home in the first leg, won 2-0 away)
Coppa Italia quarter final - lost 2-1 to Atalanta

Edited May 23, 20188 yr by the special one

1 hour ago, Hazard10 said:

Just an example lineup. 

My point was that we're not that far off putting a capable possession team on the pitch. 

Don't you think Christensen Rudiger would be good enough on the ball ? 

I think, the reason why we struggled this season was because Conte didn't want to take a lot of risks and also we regularly played with Bakayoko and Kante in our midfield.

If we want to play possession footbal then there can be only 1 "destroyer" flanked by 1 or 2 playmakers.

I do think they are good enough on the ball, however Christensen was prone to his mistakes down the road and I think the addition of another ball handling CB would be ideal.

27 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

bottled the league? He's the first ever manager in that league to hit 90+ points and not win the league. If we hit 90+ points next season i won't be complaining.

If you're hitting 90+ points and not winning the league; you just have to tip your cap to the other team at that point.

5 minutes ago, chiefBlueCFC said:

If you're hitting 90+ points and not winning the league; you just have to tip your cap to the other team at that point.

Two teams getting 90+ points in the same league speaks volumes about the lack of quality/competition from all of the other sides.

5 minutes ago, chiefBlueCFC said:

If you're hitting 90+ points and not winning the league; you just have to tip your cap to the other team at that point.

Or just maybe it means that the league is so weak that only 2 teams dominate everyone else, or maybe that those 2 teams are so above the rest that they actually just compete against each other like things happen in La Liga more often than not.
It's a fact that Sarri knows how to do his job, but it's still a big question if he has the winning mentality and if he is capable to do the job till the very end and win something!

2 minutes ago, ForeverCarefree said:

Two teams getting 90+ points in the same league speaks volumes about the lack of quality/competition from all of the other sides.

This is true, it can speak volumes about the quality of said league. However, last season we won the league with 93 pts and Spurs finished second with 86 and I feel safe to say that we all agree that the Premier League is the best league in the world top to bottom.

The supposed most competitive league in the world were not far off having two teams on 90 plus points last season and 4 of the last 5 Champions ran away with it.

Rumors are Sarri is coming tomorrow for a meeting with the board.

https://www.calciomercato.com/en/news/exclusive-chelsea-set-to-meet-with-sarri-tomorrow-58554

6 minutes ago, ForeverCarefree said:

Two teams getting 90+ points in the same league speaks volumes about the lack of quality/competition from all of the other sides.

That League also contained a Roma team that beat us 3-0, finished top of a group that contained us and Atleticio and knocked Barcelona out of the Champions League by beating them 3-0

Napoli finished well over 10 points ahead of them  

48 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

bottled the league? He's the first ever manager in that league to hit 90+ points and not win the league. If we hit 90+ points next season i won't be complaining.

That’s your opinion,

but I want my manager to be wining trophies, that is what counts at the end of the day. 

 

https://thesefootballtimes.co/2018/03/22/why-maurizio-sarri-represents-chelseas-best-option-in-replacing-antonio-conte/

Fantastic read on Sarri in case anyone is interested.

Just now, Sparkz said:

That League also contained a Roma team that beat us 3-0, finished top of a group that contained us and Atleticio and knocked Barcelona out of the Champions League by beating them 3-0

Napoli finished well over 10 points ahead of them  

Does it really show the quality of the league as a whole? Juventus winning 7 seasons in a row, with Napoli the only team that was a bit close to try and contest them? And that Juventus even with such domination that was never seen before in Italy can't win in Europe...
Also Shakhtar was ahead of Napoli in the Champions League group stage and was only kicked out by Roma because of an away goal...

1 minute ago, Gol15 said:

Does it really show the quality of the league as a whole? Juventus winning 7 seasons in a row, with Napoli the only team that was a bit close to try and contest them? And that Juventus even with such domination that was never seen before in Italy can't win in Europe...
Also Shakhtar was ahead of Napoli in the Champions League group stage and was only kicked out by Roma because of an away goal...

How many times has our oh so competitive league won in Europe since we won in 2012? This is only our 2nd CL final as a league in 7 seasons.

2 minutes ago, Barrettinator said:

How many times has our oh so competitive league won in Europe since we won in 2012? This is only our 2nd CL final as a league in 7 seasons.

It really is a question how a person would read that fact, it can also mean that our league really is the best and that teams simply don't have the energy left to compete in Europe at the same time...When we had both Premier League teams in CL final 2008 it was a fight between a team that was dominating our league and us that were trying to put our club to a new level, but I have no doubts that it's much easier for Real Madrid to reach far in Champions League simply because they have far less hard games in La Liga, at best they get to play 6 strong games against 3 teams in a whole season in La Liga.
Juventus managed to reach a few CL finals during their 7 year domestic domination so I give them that but it's very difficult to understand all the factors that come with winning the title or not.

Lets not forget that Napoli is the only club from south Italy that has managed to win a title out of all teams and that was when they had Diego Maradona, it was always very hard for them to compete against the rest from the north that had always had more established clubs.

1 minute ago, Gol15 said:

It really is a question how a person would read that fact, it can also mean that our league really is the best and that teams simply don't have the energy left to compete in Europe at the same time...When we had both Premier League teams in CL final 2008 it was a fight between a team that was dominating our league and us that were trying to put our club to a new level, but I have no doubts that it's much easier for Real Madrid to reach far in Champions League simply because they have far less hard games in La Liga, at best they get to play 6 strong games against 3 teams in a whole season in La Liga.
Juventus managed to reach a few CL finals during their 7 year domestic domination so I give them that but it's very difficult to understand all the factors that come with winning the title or not.

Lets not forget that Napoli is the only club from south Italy that has managed to win a title out of all teams and that was when they had Diego Maradona, it was always very hard for them to compete against the rest from the north that had always had more established clubs.

The Champions of the last two season's have failed to win a combined 7 out of a possible 52 games vs teams outside the top six, losing one (in extremely unlucky circumstances) and drawing 6. Doesn't exactly scream competitiveness does it?

The squad could look so different. If he can turn the likes of Koulibaly, Insigne, Mertens into world beaters then I imagine he can do so much, not just the starting 11 but he also has his pick from the loan army and young players! 

8 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

It really is a question how a person would read that fact, it can also mean that our league really is the best and that teams simply don't have the energy left to compete in Europe at the same time...When we had both Premier League teams in CL final 2008 it was a fight between a team that was dominating our league and us that were trying to put our club to a new level, but I have no doubts that it's much easier for Real Madrid to reach far in Champions League simply because they have far less hard games in La Liga, at best they get to play 6 strong games against 3 teams in a whole season in La Liga.
Juventus managed to reach a few CL finals during their 7 year domestic domination so I give them that but it's very difficult to understand all the factors that come with winning the title or not.

Lets not forget that Napoli is the only club from south Italy that has managed to win a title out of all teams and that was when they had Diego Maradona, it was always very hard for them to compete against the rest from the north that had always had more established clubs.

Yeah I don't buy that. You still expend 90 mins on the pitch running around unless you're rested. Madrid just ended the season 3rd, if I'm not mistaken. Should be a cake walk for them if La Liga is so easy, no? I don't think the PL is nearly as competitive or at least "far more competitive" like we've been sold by the media. We breezed to the title last season, so did Man City this season. And us again the season before Leicester and Man City again the season before that. 

3 minutes ago, Argo said:

The Champions of the last two season's have failed to win a combined 7 out of a possible 52 games vs teams outside the top six, losing one (in extremely unlucky circumstances) and drawing 6. Doesn't exactly scream competitiveness does it?

In the last years it was really evident that the champion does get a huge boost of confidence after winning games which carries on to the next game and next, it was a big factor why we had 30 wins in the league last season and now Man City broke that record just this season but at least it's not the same team.

3 minutes ago, Barrettinator said:

Yeah I don't buy that. You still expend 90 mins on the pitch running around unless you're rested. Madrid just ended the season 3rd, if I'm not mistaken. Should be a cake walk for them if La Liga is so easy, no? I don't think the PL is nearly as competitive or at least "far more competitive" like we've been sold by the media. We breezed to the title last season, so did Man City this season. And us again the season before Leicester and Man City again the season before that. 

Then we really can't claim that our league is the best one. Or maybe we can in case Liverpool beats Real Madrid? Would we really even want that in the first place...