Kovacic, Jorginho, Kante, Barkley, Loftus-Cheek, Gilmour is who we have currently. If you take into account loanees then we have another 4 or 5 others including Gallagher and Ampadu.

To think that a few yeas ago our options included Drinkwater and Bakayoko

Edited June 19, 20206 yr by Imran_CFC

Just now, Imran_CFC said:

To think that a few yeas ago our options included Drinkwater and Bakayoko

Technically they still do!

10 hours ago, driller97 said:

Had no problem dealing with a tank like Fabinho though. I think he's more than ready to step up, I wouldnt want to loan him out. Would rather he stay with the squad and start in the carabao and FA cup games

You're quoting the post from February. That was before his FA Cup masterclass against Liverpool that made such an impression on everyone.

12 minutes ago, abramovich said:

You're quoting the post from February. That was before his FA Cup masterclass against Liverpool that made such an impression on everyone.

Sorry I didn't see the date on it!

53 minutes ago, abramovich said:

You're quoting the post from February. That was before his FA Cup masterclass against Liverpool that made such an impression on everyone.

To be fair, I think there’s still a case to be had about sending him on loan. Sometimes loans are the best thing to happen to a player.

Here's who we have currently in our main squad: ---- Jorginho, Kante, Barkley, Kovacic, RLC, Mount, Gilmour.

Here's who we have currently out on loan: ---- Drinkwater, Bakayoko, Gallagher and Ampadu

Here's who we're linked with and looking to sign: ---- Havertz, Milinkovic-Savic

 

if we do sign both Havertz and Savic, what do you think our midfield crop should be for this season?

For me we sell: ---- Bakayoko, Drinkwater, Kante and maybe one of Barkley or Ruben, if not keep both.

Out on loan: ---- Gallagher, Ampadu

First Team: ---- Jorginho, Kovacic, Havertz, Savic, Mount, Gilmour, Barkley/Ruben

 

 

51 minutes ago, driller97 said:

Here's who we have currently in our main squad: ---- Jorginho, Kante, Barkley, Kovacic, RLC, Mount, Gilmour.

Here's who we have currently out on loan: ---- Drinkwater, Bakayoko, Gallagher and Ampadu

Here's who we're linked with and looking to sign: ---- Havertz, Milinkovic-Savic

 

if we do sign both Havertz and Savic, what do you think our midfield crop should be for this season?

For me we sell: ---- Bakayoko, Drinkwater, Kante and maybe one of Barkley or Ruben, if not keep both.

Out on loan: ---- Gallagher, Ampadu

First Team: ---- Jorginho, Kovacic, Havertz, Savic, Mount, Gilmour, Barkley/Ruben

Not sure how you have come to the conclusion we have 160m lying around to sign Havertz and SMS. 

Also note sure how Kante is in the sell column and Jorginho in the keep column, particularly not after watching since the restart. 

6 minutes ago, Spiller86 said:

Not sure how you have come to the conclusion we have 160m lying around to sign Havertz and SMS. 

Also note sure how Kante is in the sell column and Jorginho in the keep column, particularly not after watching since the restart. 

Based on who we're planning to sell. We can sell quite a few players (not just midfielders) to fund both Havertz and SMS. Especially if we sell one of Jorginho and Kante as well as they will both fetch high fees (50-70m each)

Also Jorginho and Kante are interchangeable for me, I just think 1 of them is definitely going and although Jorginho seems the more likely I still would prefer to keep him over Kante as Kante just seems to be getting more and more injuries and just not as good in more forward positions.

Only keep Kante if he can stay free from injuries and he plays int he DM role, otherwise I would sell.

Edited July 7, 20206 yr by driller97

Why would we sign two additional midfielders for an already overcrowded midfield when it's clear that we need a new keeper and defenders?

If we get rid of Jorgi signing Savic as an additional CM makes sense since Kova and Kanté can play both DM and CM, but if Havertz comes Mount or Barkley (one needs to be sold) will see a huge drop in gametime and I doubt RLC will play at all.

Edited July 7, 20206 yr by Vagabond

17 minutes ago, Vagabond said:

Why would we sign two additional midfielders for an already overcrowded midfield when it's clear that we need a new keeper and defenders?

If we get rid of Jorgi signing Savic as an additional CM makes sense since Kova and Kanté can play both DM and CM, but if Havertz comes Mount or Barkley (one needs to be sold) will see a huge drop in gametime and I doubt RLC will play at all.

The point is that Jorginho and Barkley both look like they're going to be sold though.. Bringing in Savic and Havertz. (not to mention a few others we're selling as well to fund these)

Not disputing that we definitely need defenders though, because we do.

2 hours ago, driller97 said:

Here's who we have currently in our main squad: ---- Jorginho, Kante, Barkley, Kovacic, RLC, Mount, Gilmour.

Here's who we have currently out on loan: ---- Drinkwater, Bakayoko, Gallagher and Ampadu

Here's who we're linked with and looking to sign: ---- Havertz, Milinkovic-Savic

We don't need major changes in midfield imho, but we DO need to replace Jorginho if he leaves. Declan Rice would be a good fit because of his ability to cover LCB.

Havertz won't be signed for CAM imho, but to drift in from the flanks and to play as a second striker.

Rumours of a £10m bid from Crystal Palace for Gallagher, if we sign Havertz he's gone imho.

For me I'd be happy with Kante, Rice, Kovacic, Barkley, Mount, RLC next season.

Fluidity (Kante/Kovacic/Mount), physicality (Rice/Barkley/RLC), and, hopefully, goals (Barkley/Mount/RLC).

Edited July 7, 20206 yr by the special one

Kante, Mount, Ruben, Kovacic are players we are building the team around so to say. Barkley, Jorginho are the questionmarks. Gilmour could go out on loan if that is the case.

53 minutes ago, the special one said:

We don't need major changes in midfield imho, but we DO need to replace Jorginho if he leaves. Declan Rice would be a good fit because of his ability to cover LCB.

Havertz won't be signed for CAM imho, but to drift in from the flanks and to play as a second striker.

Rumours of a £10m bid from Crystal Palace for Gallagher, if we sign Havertz he's gone imho.

For me I'd be happy with Kante, Rice, Kovacic, Barkley, Mount, RLC next season.

Fluidity (Kante/Kovacic/Mount), physicality (Rice/Barkley/RLC), and, hopefully, goals (Barkley/Mount/RLC).

I agree, we don't need major changes. Jorginho almost definitely looks like hes going at this point but Rice is not exactly a replacement for him. I think Rice is being bought in to play as a CB but he's versatile so can cover both.

if we play 4-3-3 I can absolutely see Havertz playing in the midfield 3 and not the front 3. I don't see the hype for Havertz as a second striker or anything, I see him more as a playmaker and assister, kind of how KDB is for City.

Id be happy with that list you gave too in all fairness, but I just dont see Havertz playing in a front 3 when we already look pretty stacked there with Ziyech, Werner and Pulisic.

All depends on the formation of course, but Havertz definitely feels better in a midfield 3 for me. Same goes for Savic if we decide to go in for him as well.

 

8 hours ago, driller97 said:

The point is that Jorginho and Barkley both look like they're going to be sold though.. Bringing in Savic and Havertz. (not to mention a few others we're selling as well to fund these)

Not disputing that we definitely need defenders though, because we do.

Barkley going to be sold? I didn't realize.

Just now, Vagabond said:

Barkley going to be sold? I didn't realize.

Read some reports that Frank has him up for sale, says he could reunite with Moyes at West Ham

Although we have flare and possession based players, i fear we are out muscled, who is the 'Henderson' in our team, when the chips are down Azpi isn't the captain we need, Gilmour really needs maybe a year to grow into the position he is destined to fulfil, but not yet, RLC has the physicality of a Viera, but doesn't boss the middle like he should, the Lazio midfielder sergej milinkovic-savic would  be ideal.

Edited July 8, 20206 yr by Ballack & Blu

6 hours ago, Ballack & Blu said:

who is the 'Henderson' in our team

How the f**k has it come to this?

26 minutes ago, PloKoon13 said:

How the f**k has it come to this?

Someone walked over my grave when I read that

8 hours ago, Ballack & Blu said:

Although we have flare and possession based players, i fear we are out muscled, who is the 'Henderson' in our team, when the chips are down Azpi isn't the captain we need, Gilmour really needs maybe a year to grow into the position he is destined to fulfil, but not yet, RLC has the physicality of a Viera, but doesn't boss the middle like he should, the Lazio midfielder sergej milinkovic-savic would  be ideal.

Agree with this here. He is a beast, however not sure we can sign him without offloading some of our current crop first, especially if Havertz is coming in as well.

Personally I wouldn't mind offloading Kante and Barkley to sign him

2 hours ago, Valerie said:

Someone walked over my grave when I read that

If you're to blind with hatred to recognise he has improved massively as a player, and is their midfield driver, but hey what do i know, only what i see....

Do you 'Old shedders', just clickbait for fun, wake up an see the world, not just through 'Chelsea blue' tinted specs, Henderson would walk into our team, who apart from maybe Pulisic, and maybe Kante would get in the current Scouse team, and i doubt Pulisic would oust Mane!

12 minutes ago, Ballack & Blu said:

If you're to blind with hatred to recognise he has improved massively as a player, and is their midfield driver, but hey what do i know, only what i see....

"Blind with hatred", over the top much? Don't be silly. I just don't like his hard man act.

12 minutes ago, Valerie said:

"Blind with hatred", over the top much? Don't be silly. I just don't like his hard man act.

He looks the part as the Scouse Keano, and there aren't many 'Tougher' midfielders, i'm saying we need to 'BEEF' up our middle its very very lightweight

On 07/07/2020 at 11:58, evissy said:

Kante, Mount, Ruben, Kovacic are players we are building the team around so to say. Barkley, Jorginho are the questionmarks. Gilmour could go out on loan if that is the case.

Mount for me is a big question mark but that is a conversation for another day.