16 minutes ago, drool winner said:

I'm sorry but he's just not at the level required.

Do you think he's on tier with Konate or Saliba or Van Dijk or Gabriel? Let's even think back to recent Chelsea CB. Is Chalobah on the same level as Christensen when he was here? Rudiger? Silva his first two seasons before he fell off a cliff? Absolutely not. I've never seen a player with a lower bar to clear than Chalobah. Even Colwill who's far superior has to do far more to get less praise.

He was Palace at was their 3rd or 4th best CB, left and they improved and won a trophy.

He's like our Joel Matip, but worse. Fine as a rotation level CB, but you don't want him starting week in and week out.

I'd also prefer developing a pathway for Acheampong who has more ability and deserves a runway to showcase it.

I'd say sell Tosin and keep "Trev", but Tosin seems far better for squad harmony and is less 'pick-me' in the media. Constantly attempting to cause division and farm sympathy.

The same way Madueke was shipped out for being obsessed with instagram wenches and being a strip club addict, the same way Raheem Sterling was an unserious professional and a detriment to the locker room, Chalobah and Fofana also fall under this bracket. Always something going on outside of football that's creating an unnecessary distraction.

Honestly I can't wait until he's sold because it's quite clear hierarchy do not rate him.

He was at Palace for 19 games. Started 12, injured for 4 and on the bench for 2 and couldn’t play against his parent club for 1. So no, he wasn’t 3rd or 4th choice.

Chalobah is a man of god and probably the best example of a professional you could ask for, what are you talking about?

No one expects him to be a Van Dijk, he’s a squad player.

One look at your profile says you’re only here to rage bait and the manner in which you post, you’ve clearly been on here before.

Clown.

10 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

He was at Palace for 19 games. Started 12, injured for 4 and on the bench for 2 and couldn’t play against his parent club for 1. So no, he wasn’t 3rd or 4th choice.

Chalobah is a man of god and probably the best example of a professional you could ask for, what are you talking about?

No one expects him to be a Van Dijk, he’s a squad player.

One look at your profile says you’re only here to rage bait and the manner in which you post, you’ve clearly been on here before.

Clown.

They played with a 3 ATB so that's a bit misleading. Guéhi who I only value as a good and not great CB was clearly superior to him and so was Maxence Lacroix. He cannibalized Chris Richards minutes, but they ended up improving once Chalobah left anyways.

While Chalobah was at Palace they only won four league games in three months and he was tripping over his feet constantly like as typical with him.

After he left once Richards was reintegrated back alongside Guéhi and Lacroix they won 14 of their next 22 with only four draws and losses.

He's just not a very good CB. If he were Palace property no big club would have been looking at him ahead of the other options they have there which says it all really.

He's a midtable CB that has struggled to garner interest in the past abroad. The club tried very hard to get Huijsen leading up to this summer window and Chalobah's name will be in the media constantly teasing sale because it's understood by those that aren't carrying a rampant agenda that he's average on his very best day and not at the level required to compete at the highest level.

Same thing with Jackson and Madueke. These aren't inherently horrible footballers, but any serious club with aspirations greater than top four challenges every year can easily upgrade and move past these entities.

Where was VVD at Chalobah’s current age?

2025 and people still don’t rate Chalobah. Mad.

1 minute ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Where was VVD at Chalobah’s current age?

2025 and people still don’t rate Chalobah. Mad.

Liverpool nearly got sued, had to return 6 months later and broke the world record to secure his services when he was Chalobah's age.

Let's just be honest, it's hard to rate him when I see what's out there.

Arsenal having Saliba and us pretending to enjoy Chalobah as some sort of five star meal is just wrong and antithesis to the heritage of this club. We're supposed to be the ones trotting out the rolls royce CB.

He's a good squad player but fans need to stop with the victory lapping as if this is some sort of pinnacle CB. Fans overdid it with Gallagher the same way last year. You couldn't convince some people that Caicedo was actually far better than him because the club wanted to sell Gallagher and that made him some sort of marquee pawn in the overly elaborate game of five dimensional chess against the club and everyone that runs it.

18 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Where was VVD at Chalobah’s current age?

2025 and people still don’t rate Chalobah. Mad.

I wouldn’t pay him much attention. Been here 5 minutes trying to rage bait and coincidently posts at exactly the same time on the same threads as Clown Lake. Make of that what you will.

15 minutes ago, drool winner said:

Liverpool nearly got sued, had to return 6 months later and broke the world record to secure his services when he was Chalobah's age.

Let's just be honest, it's hard to rate him when I see what's out there.

Arsenal having Saliba and us pretending to enjoy Chalobah as some sort of five star meal is just wrong and antithesis to the heritage of this club. We're supposed to be the ones trotting out the rolls royce CB.

He's a good squad player but fans need to stop with the victory lapping as if this is some sort of pinnacle CB. Fans overdid it with Gallagher the same way last year. You couldn't convince some people that Caicedo was actually far better than him because the club wanted to sell Gallagher and that made him some sort of marquee pawn in the overly elaborate game of five dimensional chess against the club and everyone that runs it.

Liverpool nearly got sued , are you able to elaborate as this is news to me and i do enjoy any negative liverpool commentary thanks

6 minutes ago, drool winner said:

Was Chalobah Palace's first choice CB when he was there? He's not better than Guehi, Lacroix was performing better than him too. The level of being Chelsea's starting CB should be a player that's showing they're too good for a mid table side like Olise was. Or Huijsen and Zabarnyi at Bournemouth.

I get he had his best match against PSG, but so did Sanchez. Can't be prisoners of the moment and use that erase everything we've known about these players prior.

He's just not at the level of player that we need him to be to compete over a 38 game calendar. Far too mistake prone, average on the ball and indecisive at times defensively in 1 on 1s. I consider Chalobah & Tosin to be good squad options at best.

Prior to the PSG masterclass (all thanks to Maresca) Chalobah was on an uncanny run of performances unable to keep a clean sheet, while they were occuring when he was stapled to the bench,

Sell this bum immediately for $PURE, helps us in terms of UEFA registration and allows us to take a step forward as a club.

1 hour ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

The ‘uncanny’ run and his sh*t games at Palace:

Can there be a prerequisite that you have to actually watch football to be able to comment on the forum?

Or at least have an iq above that of a turd.

Just now, dkw said:

Or at least have an iq above that of a turd.

Getting a lot of them recently. Or just one incredibly schizo poster with too much time.

15 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

Getting a lot of them recently. Or just one incredibly schizo poster with too much time.

Been shockingly bad, seem to be getting the social medua mentalists who pile in with idiotic takes, then take offence when we point out just idiotic it is.

It's blatantly someone's sock account

Edited July 30, 2025Jul 30 by dkw

18 minutes ago, OneTommyLangley said:

Liverpool nearly got sued , are you able to elaborate as this is news to me and i do enjoy any negative liverpool commentary thanks

Similar to what happened to us and Olise in 2023.

They made a strong pursuit for Van Dijk in the Summer of 2017 and were threatened by Southampton for illegal contact / tapping up & so they backed off.

BBC Sport

Virgil van Dijk: Liverpool apologise & end interest in So...

Liverpool apologise to Southampton over "any misunderstanding" and end their interest in defender Virgil van Dijk.

Public apology and all, and then returned that following window and broke the all time record for the position to secure his services.

If this forum consider Chalobah to be on the level of Saliba and Van Dijk at Southampton then we're all just going to have to violently agree to disagree.

And I won't be attending your protests outside of Stamford Bridge when Winstanley sends him packing to Fulham or Brentford.

We can do far better, and you should demand far better for a club of this stature.

Even casual centre backs around the league like Nathan Collins, Marc Guéhi and Illia Zabarnyi would be immense upgrades.

1 minute ago, drool winner said:

If this forum consider Chalobah to be on the level of Saliba and Van Dijk at Southampton then we're all just going to have to violently agree to disagree.

And I won't be attending your protests outside of Stamford Bridge when Winstanley sends him packing to Fulham or Brentford.

We can do far better, and you should demand far better for a club of this stature.

Even casual centre backs around the league like Nathan Collins, Marc Guéhi and Illia Zabarnyi would be immense upgrades.

No one has ever said he's at VVD levels.

He's a solid reliable centre back who should be part of our squad.

Just now, bisright1 said:

No one has ever said he's at VVD levels.

He's a solid reliable centre back who should be part of our squad.

Why SHOULD he be apart of our squad if we can upgrade and where is the pathway for what looks like a special defensive talent in Acheampong if we're pumping heavy minutes into a middling centre back?

As it currently stands our PSR is great, but we're struggling to comply with UEFA's registration rules, which is why we ate that fine. Some of the sales and the money we earned from triumph at the CWC is great, but it still dances around the issue.

Chelsea need to bank ~60 million in book value profit from the names on that A list to be able to comply for next year's competition.

This is another reason why Madueke was shipped out so quickly, besides him being an average at best winger.

Some was returned on Amougou to Strasbourg, and a lot of those other names either won't draw enough interest or are unsellable from our own perspective.

This is why I believe Jackson, KDH and Nkunku will be shipped out, I'm not sure if they'll bring back enough profit. Fingers crossed though.

Clearest pathway to being back in the clear would be selling high on Chalobah (£40 million), or shipping out Tosin. Either of which classify as as pure profit.

I think they're similar levels, slight edge to Tosin, but both squad players at a top club. Tosin just happens to be the face of the entire project's best friend, so it'd be in best interest to ship Trevoh off instead to a club more suitable for his level. If he truly loves the club he'll comply with our best interests in mind.

Edited July 30, 2025Jul 30 by drool winner

48 minutes ago, drool winner said:

If this forum consider Chalobah to be on the level of Saliba and Van Dijk at Southampton then we're all just going to have to violently agree to disagree.

And I won't be attending your protests outside of Stamford Bridge when Winstanley sends him packing to Fulham or Brentford.

We can do far better, and you should demand far better for a club of this stature.

Even casual centre backs around the league like Nathan Collins, Marc Guéhi and Illia Zabarnyi would be immense upgrades.

You won’t be attending the protests because you’re in Canada you weirdo

It’s just pointless to be critical of any of our CBs not named Fofana given their performances these past few months. They’ve all formed a great chemistry where one can come in for the other and nothing changes.

38 minutes ago, drool winner said:

Why SHOULD he be apart of our squad if we can upgrade and where is the pathway for what looks like a special defensive talent in Acheampong if we're pumping heavy minutes into a middling centre back?

As it currently stands our PSR is great, but we're struggling to comply with UEFA's registration rules, which is why we ate that fine. Some of the sales and the money we earned from triumph at the CWC is great, but it still dances around the issue.

Chelsea need to bank ~60 million in book value profit from the names on that A list to be able to comply for next year's competition.

This is another reason why Madueke was shipped out so quickly, besides him being an average at best winger.

Some was returned on Amougou to Strasbourg, and a lot of those other names either won't draw enough interest or are unsellable from our own perspective.

This is why I believe Jackson, KDH and Nkunku will be shipped out, I'm not sure if they'll bring back enough profit. Fingers crossed though.

Clearest pathway to being back in the clear would be selling high on Chalobah (£40 million), or shipping out Tosin. Either of which classify as as pure profit.

I think they're similar levels, slight edge to Tosin, but both squad players at a top club. Tosin just happens to be the face of the entire project's best friend, so it'd be in best interest to ship Trevoh off instead to a club more suitable for his level. If he truly loves the club he'll comply with our best interests in mind.

@terraloon do you want to educate him on the wording of this supposed A list sales?

4 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

You won’t be attending the protests because you’re in Canada you weirdo

Blud has never heard of a VPN

You'd better hope that you have one operative at this very moment incase I get angry and decide to #activate

4 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

It’s just pointless to be critical of any of our CBs not named Fofana given their performances these past few months. They’ve all formed a great chemistry where one can come in for the other and nothing changes.

Outside of Colwill they're all replaceable, so act like it.

Fofana is another liability that should be forced out of the club regardless. Sell him to Le Havre for 1 million and if they won't bite, rip his contract up on livestream.

4 minutes ago, drool winner said:

Outside of Colwill they're all replaceable, so act like it.

Fofana is another liability that should be forced out of the club regardless. Sell him to Le Havre for 1 million and if they won't bite, rip his contract up on livestream.

3rd best defence whilst Sanchez leading the charts in errors leading to goals.

Sorry if CBs aren’t high up in my priority list…

53 minutes ago, drool winner said:

If this forum consider Chalobah to be on the level of Saliba and Van Dijk at Southampton then we're all just going to have to violently agree to disagree.

And I won't be attending your protests outside of Stamford Bridge when Winstanley sends him packing to Fulham or Brentford.

We can do far better, and you should demand far better for a club of this stature.

Even casual centre backs around the league like Nathan Collins, Marc Guéhi and Illia Zabarnyi would be immense upgrades.

Do we have to violently agree to disagree ? How does that work exactly?

How about we all agree other CB’s can leave before TC.

Just now, Sconnie Blue said:

3rd best defence whilst Sanchez leading the charts in errors leading to goals.

Sorry if CBs aren’t high up in my priority list…

This is a completely fair take and why I agree with the club for focusing on rebuilding the attack.

I actually do think we can survive with Trev/Tosin partnering Colwill for the entire season, I'm just thinking about long-term and also Acheampong. I feel like for the sake of his progression he needs to play here, or go on loan.

I'm worried though because I feel like he's good enough to stay and play in rotation, like Hato will but there's just absolutely no pathway. Anselmino and Sarr got/will get loaned. Would be nice to clear out a bit more clutter.

Disasi has to leave. Fofana has to leave. Pick one of Tosin or Chalobah and they should leave. That's Colwill/Badiashile LCB (already confirmed BB is staying) + Tosin/Acheampong and then Reece/Gusto and Cucurella/Hato.

Fine by me.

59 minutes ago, drool winner said:

Why SHOULD he be apart of our squad if we can upgrade and where is the pathway for what looks like a special defensive talent in Acheampong if we're pumping heavy minutes into a middling centre back?

As it currently stands our PSR is great, but we're struggling to comply with UEFA's registration rules, which is why we ate that fine. Some of the sales and the money we earned from triumph at the CWC is great, but it still dances around the issue.

Chelsea need to bank ~60 million in book value profit from the names on that A list to be able to comply for next year's competition.

This is another reason why Madueke was shipped out so quickly, besides him being an average at best winger.

Some was returned on Amougou to Strasbourg, and a lot of those other names either won't draw enough interest or are unsellable from our own perspective.

This is why I believe Jackson, KDH and Nkunku will be shipped out, I'm not sure if they'll bring back enough profit. Fingers crossed though.

Clearest pathway to being back in the clear would be selling high on Chalobah (£40 million), or shipping out Tosin. Either of which classify as as pure profit.

I think they're similar levels, slight edge to Tosin, but both squad players at a top club. Tosin just happens to be the face of the entire project's best friend, so it'd be in best interest to ship Trevoh off instead to a club more suitable for his level. If he truly loves the club he'll comply with our best interests in mind.

Where do you get the £60 million from ? Nowhere in the settlement agreement does it state a number nor does it state which A list is or indeed what is meant by new player. Many have interpreted it to mean we have to raise transfer fees yet again that’s not what the settlement agreement and player replacement says.

Where does it say the 24/25 A list ? It mentions 25 /26 yes initially my reading was as many are saying but I tend to think that the A list is the one that will be sent in on 2/9/26 and the restriction applies to adding new players to the list that will be applicable to the 25 / 6 tournament and come the end of the January 26 window clubs can add “ new players” . I believe the restriction is that come that transfer window we can only add players if their squad costs ( wages+ amortisation +agent fees are no more than players we leave off.

Here’s the settlement agreement re sporting sanctions. Again as I have said for a while the wording is incredibly poor

Edited July 30, 2025Jul 30 by terraloon

6 minutes ago, terraloon said:

Where do you get the £60 million from ? Nowhere in the settlement agreement does it state a number nor does it state which A list is or indeed what is meant by new player. Many have interpreted it to mean we have to raise transfer fees yet again that’s not what the settlement agreement and player replacement means.

Here’s the settlemt agreement re sporting sanctions

The 60 million value was plucked from the Athletic article that I'll try to find, but isn't this generally saying the same thing?

Chelsea need to reach a specific surplus in positive transfer balance regarding players that have been submitted on the UEFA A list.

This is why Petrovic and Renato Veiga eventually getting sold for huge returns makes our healthy PSR standing even healthier, but does not address our current standing issue with UEFA.

36 minutes ago, drool winner said:

The 60 million value was plucked from the Athletic article that I'll try to find, but isn't this generally saying the same thing?

Chelsea need to reach a specific surplus in positive transfer balance regarding players that have been submitted on the UEFA A list.

This is why Petrovic and Renato Veiga eventually getting sold for huge returns makes our healthy PSR standing even healthier, but does not address our current standing issue with UEFA.

As you say neither Petrovic or Veiga appear on that A list . To date the only ones that have been moved on will not lead to any significant “ cost savings” save Noni.

Irrespective where does it say transfer fees ? That £60 million originated from a journalist who works on the Telegraph by the way.

Also as the restriction applies un conditionally for 25/26& 26/27 if you are right then some two seasons on from that 24/25 A list we are still bound by that( what about our B list players now reaching 21 and requiring to be added to the list .

But even worse that player restriction could still be enforced in 27/28& 28/29. How on earth could we still be tied in any way to a 24/25 list?

What about a player that appeared on that list and in say 25/26 gets a new contract? Do we have to find savings to frank that salary increase ?

Seems total nonsense to me

Edited July 30, 2025Jul 30 by terraloon

1 hour ago, drool winner said:

Blud has never heard of a VPN

You'd better hope that you have one operative at this very moment incase I get angry and decide to #activate

#activate???

you been watching the Power Rangers again Blud….🙄