19 minutes ago, Gordon Bennett said:

You hate him because he made a mistake about 5 years ago? Calm down mate.

He's a decent Prem level centre back who loves the club and bleeds blue. Put in some good performances last season and looks like a leader on the pitch. Obviously not VVD level or anywhere near, but a good player to have in our squad.

Good ole Trev!

He's just not very good and I strongly dislike players that aren't very good getting spoken about as if they're saviours.

Especially, and this fanbase is very guilty of it, when the arguments for defending this specific crop of player (Mount / Gallagher / Chalobah) hangs its hat on “leadership“ or, "playing for the badge” or, “getting it” because the usage of these devices allow an amount of importance that their ability cannot justify.

If you're propping up Chalobah to heights where you're leveraging him against modern era defining talents at the position like Saliba, or even god-forbid VVD, then you're an enemy of this club and an enemy of progress.

8 minutes ago, drool winner said:

He's just not very good and I strongly dislike players that aren't very good getting spoken about as if they're saviours.

Especially, and this fanbase is very guilty of it, when the arguments for defending this specific crop of player (Mount / Gallagher / Chalobah) hangs its hat on “leadership“ or, "playing for the badge” or, “getting it” because the usage of these devices allow an amount of importance that their ability cannot justify.

If you're propping up Chalobah to heights where you're leveraging him against modern era defining talents at the position like Saliba, or even god-forbid VVD, then you're an enemy of this club and an enemy of progress.

What have you got against Mount? He was brilliant for us for a couple of seasons before fading off. But rightly deserved praise.

Gallagher was very good for us. Clearly a limited player but his work rate was second to none and it was sorely required during a period of instability.

If supporters have an affinity with a player because they identify with them in some respect due to a mutual love of the club then I'd argue they can hardly be called an enemy.

1 minute ago, Gordon Bennett said:

What have you got against Mount? He was brilliant for us for a couple of seasons before fading off. But rightly deserved praise.

Gallagher was very good for us. Clearly a limited player but his work rate was second to none and it was sorely required during a period of instability.

If supporters have an affinity with a player because they identify with them in some respect due to a mutual love of the club then I'd argue they can hardly be called an enemy.

I'm noticing a theme from our new overseas "friend", strangely the players he hates are all English,...hes not one of them is he....those social media ones....

22 minutes ago, drool winner said:

If you're propping up Chalobah to heights where you're leveraging him against modern era defining talents at the position like Saliba, or even god-forbid VVD, then you're an enemy of this club and an enemy of progress.

I think everyone is an agreement he isn’t as good as VVD, who was admittedly a late bloomer.

More concerning though what is your weird obsession with Saliba?! He’s a system centre back in the most anti football team in the Prem?

There are a LOT better CB’s in this league than Saliba 😂 In fact Nottingham Forest have 2 ffs!

Side note kid, lay off the weird JW bashing as well, it’s proper noncey to pick on a man for his religious beliefs.

9 minutes ago, Gordon Bennett said:

What have you got against Mount? He was brilliant for us for a couple of seasons before fading off. But rightly deserved praise.

Gallagher was very good for us. Clearly a limited player but his work rate was second to none and it was sorely required during a period of instability.

If supporters have an affinity with a player because they identify with them in some respect due to a mutual love of the club then I'd argue they can hardly be called an enemy.

Look Mount was fantastic up until the UCL win, but he was poor in 21-22 and still won POTS over a much more deserving Silva or Rudiger and was also shoved down our throats as our star man instead of rightfully getting questioned for his lack of quality that season.

I truly believe Mount being our creative focal point was one of the biggest reasons Lukaku, Havertz and many others immediately flopped with the revolving door of #9s at the club. His lack of eye for a through ball or clever pass and weight of pass was truly appalling.

At the end of the day, these sorts of players can exist as squad players at big clubs. If that was the expectation for Mount or Gallagher or Chalobah, then who could complain really?

But I was having to see Chelsea fans say Mount > Foden, when they aren't in the same bracket of talent. I was seeing "Gallagher is our best player" last season to put down the big money flops in Caicedo and Enzo last season which was pretty disheartening.

And now the conversation is happening with Chalobah after a good performance against PSG, which nobody can take away from him. He deserves his plaudits for that game, but it's one game.

I do find it funny how NONE of the players that were hyped up have done anything since leaving and it's because naturally they've found a more fitting place within the lineup of their new club. Gallagher is already out of the plans at Atleti, no injuries.

I think when it comes to Chalobah he's just run-of-the-mill and it shouldn't be a crime to opinionate that or to want a star CB at this club to partner Levi.

We haven't challenged for the league in nearly a decade at this point and some of us would actually like to experience what that feels like again.

Edited August 1, 2025Aug 1 by drool winner

1 minute ago, The Boehly Babes said:

I think everyone is an agreement he isn’t as good as VVD, who was admittedly a late bloomer.

More concerning though what is your weird obsession with Saliba?! He’s a system centre back in the most anti football team in the Prem?

There are a LOT better CB’s in this league than Saliba 😂 In fact Nottingham Forest have 2 ffs!

Side note kid, lay off the weird JW bashing as well, it’s proper noncey to pick on a man for his religious beliefs.

I love Murillo to death but neither he nor Milenkovic are better than Saliba.

I suggest you watch him play more often, he's brilliant on the ball but a phenom in defensive situations. So fast and strong and tall with freakish anticipation and reading of the game.

I'm not the only one obsessed with him, Madrid have been courting him for years now.

@ me when Chalobah gets a (reputable) link to Madrid and I'll do more than just delete my account. I'll perform the act of seppuku.

16 minutes ago, dkw said:

I'm noticing a theme from our new overseas "friend", strangely the players he hates are all English,...hes not one of them is he....those social media ones....

I love me some Reece James, my captain that I'd take a bullet for.

I love Levi Colwill. I love Josh Acheampong. I LOVED Lewis Hall.

I loved Mount until 21-22, I never could understand the Gallagher infatuation or the Chalobah infatuation, or god forbid, the Alfie Gilchrist infatuation...

Anyways, I don't want to pollute this thread more than I already have.

I accept that my position on Chalobah is of the minority and I respect rooting for one of Cobham's very own to thrive and succeed at this club as it's a good story. I just believe we can do (far) better and I'll be rooting for that from my own corner.

42 minutes ago, drool winner said:

Didn't Delap send Jehovah back to his monastery to beg for forgiveness?

If we're playing the mistake game I promise you I have more clips of "Trev" than you can find of Saliba.

Very strange that you keep bringing up his religion, bordering on racism here.

i would post your mates most popular clip, but i think its illegal: https://onefootball.com/en/news/william-saliba-facing-investigation-in-france-over-leaked-video-32364993

29 minutes ago, Gordon Bennett said:

What have you got against Mount? He was brilliant for us for a couple of seasons before fading off. But rightly deserved praise.

Gallagher was very good for us. Clearly a limited player but his work rate was second to none and it was sorely required during a period of instability.

If supporters have an affinity with a player because they identify with them in some respect due to a mutual love of the club then I'd argue they can hardly be called an enemy.

Take a look at the players he hates, its just an overseas fan with a vendetta against Cobham lads as squad fillers because they'd prefer someone with a cool name like Joao Felix. Seen these posters on here many times over the years.

3 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

Very strange that you keep bringing up his religion, bordering on racism here.

i would post your mates most popular clip, but i think its illegal: https://onefootball.com/en/news/william-saliba-facing-investigation-in-france-over-leaked-video-32364993

Not really all that weird. What's weird was you attempting to dox me earlier, actually multiple times.

Pot + kettle as they say. Maybe take after the self proclaimed Jehovah and take the path of least resistance.

3 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

Take a look at the players he hates, its just an overseas fan with a vendetta against Cobham lads as squad fillers because they'd prefer someone with a cool name like Joao Felix. Seen these posters on here many times over the years.

You're quite literally representing Mudryk 😂

21 minutes ago, drool winner said:

Not really all that weird. What's weird was you attempting to dox me earlier, actually multiple times.

Pot + kettle as they say. Maybe take after the self proclaimed Jehovah and take the path of least resistance.

I'm not sure you understand what doxxing is, pointing out you're an overseas fan is completely normal.

21 minutes ago, drool winner said:

You're quite literally representing Mudryk 😂

Alexa, does having a joke name on an online forum mean i'm representing them?

30 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

I'm not sure you understand what doxxing is, pointing out you're an overseas fan is completely normal.

Alexa, does having a joke name on an online forum mean i'm representing them?

I'm not sure if you're a moderator or what your role is on this forum, but you quite leveraged information you've gathered from a position of power to attempt to "gotcha" me yesterday because my posts got you in your feelings.

Doxing is a lot more serious than calling Chalobah Jehovah especially since it's self proclaimed. He goes by Jehovah, or Jehovah's son.

What you tried to do quite literally borders on harassment, intimidation & threats but I ignored it because I don't take you seriously. Meanwhile you went a step further today to brand me as a racist. You're completely unhinged.

I tried to change some details on my profile and saw that you've visited quite a number of times as well.

Seek help and leave me alone. We're here to talk football and I'm not into you romantically. You're the Chalobah of internet pests.

10 minutes ago, drool winner said:

I'm not sure if you're a moderator or what your role is on this forum, but you quite leveraged information you've gathered from a position of power to attempt to "gotcha" me yesterday because my posts got you in your feelings.

Doxing is a lot more serious than calling Chalobah Jehovah especially since it's self proclaimed. He goes by Jehovah, or Jehovah's son.

What you tried to do quite literally borders on harassment, intimidation & threats but I ignored it because I don't take you seriously. Meanwhile you went a step further today to brand me as a racist. You're completely unhinged.

I tried to change some details on my profile and saw that you've visited quite a number of times as well.

Seek help and leave me alone. We're here to talk football and I'm not into you romantically. You're the Chalobah of internet pests.

Are you not an overseas fan that has never stepped foot at the Bridge? This isn't new information.

Using someone's religion to speak down on them, very shameful act. I imagine it would be a very different reaction should he be of another religion. You stick with the racist mindset though, poor upbringing. Another one onto the block list.

3 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

Are you not an overseas fan that has never stepped foot at the Bridge? This isn't new information.

Using someone's religion to speak down on them, very shameful act. I imagine it would be a very different reaction should he be of another religion. You stick with the racist mindset though, poor upbringing. Another one onto the block list.

This is called the fallacy of unwarranted assumption.

Nothing about your post is backed by any sort of objective merit.

Also blocking me = I win.

You're the second poster I've tapped out due to the strength of my metaphorical cranial orchestra. One less nagging presence making bad faith rebuttals in my notifications and attempting to dox me.

Good riddance!

2 hours ago, drool winner said:

He's just not very good and I strongly dislike players that aren't very good getting spoken about as if they're saviours.

Especially, and this fanbase is very guilty of it, when the arguments for defending this specific crop of player (Mount / Gallagher / Chalobah) hangs its hat on “leadership“ or, "playing for the badge” or, “getting it” because the usage of these devices allow an amount of importance that their ability cannot justify.

If you're propping up Chalobah to heights where you're leveraging him against modern era defining talents at the position like Saliba, or even god-forbid VVD, then you're an enemy of this club and an enemy of progress.

Not sure what the issue is... Was a fan of Mount, injuries have let him down badly. Imagine the work rate in midfield if both he and gallagher were still at the club. I suspect we'd lock most midfields down. Both super industrious players and Mount most definitely has an eye for a pass.

Is Chaolbah a good defender... yes... he is, you dont play for England if your not good enough. You dont get called back from being booted out of a club if your not better than the crop of players on the books.

We got top four... he was instrumental to that when in the side. Saliba is good top four defender and an international like our own Mr Chalobah. Not bigging him up as the next big thing but hes entering his prime in the next couple of seasons and we look solid with him in the back line. Be happy we might have a settled defence this season because he'll be part of it if not sold to balance the books.

2 minutes ago, bluelightening said:

Not sure what the issue is... Was a fan of Mount, injuries have let him down badly. Imagine the work rate in midfield if both he and gallagher were still at the club. I suspect we'd lock most midfields down. Both super industrious players and Mount most definitely has an eye for a pass.

Is Chaolbah a good defender... yes... he is, you dont play for England if your not good enough. You dont get called back from being booted out of a club if your not better than the crop of players on the books.

We got top four... he was instrumental to that when in the side. Saliba is good top four defender and an international like our own Mr Chalobah. Not bigging him up as the next big thing but hes entering his prime in the next couple of seasons and we look solid with him in the back line. Be happy we might have a settled defence this season because he'll be part of it if not sold to balance the books.

I respect your response and you were very respectful about it.

Mount is a decent squad player, but being our B2B POTS was just unwarranted. Especially that second one which was stolen from one of our defenders.

The thing is, before Mount was sold, you couldn't convince a large sect of Chelsea fans that he was actually not the player we needed him to be and was rather poor in the attacking third. Brilliant presser and had some technical pop in tight spaces but at the end of the day, Mount had 9 open play assists in his Chelsea career. This is spanning 100+ starts. Palmer had 11 open play assists in 2023/24 alone.

Mount connected on 22 through ball in four seasons at Chelsea. Palmer had 27 in his debut season alone.

The fact that he was getting propped up as our starboy were for reasons that stretched beyond his ability on the pitch. He was propa Chels and a fantastic boy in the community, he had that connection with Lampard and helped steer the ship that season with the transfer ban - but his hype went way too far and I blame more than just the injuries for why he's failed to kick on at United.

I think it's the same thing with Chalobah, even more-so. Mount had more natural talent than Chalobah or Gallagher. Reece, CHO and RLC were a cut above. Reece fulfilled his potential, I think he's one of the greatest of all time at that position based on peak and pure attribute. Shut down ever single top LWer and was incredible going forward. CHO and RLC suffered career altering injury.

Chelsea is a supermassive institution and the bar for a banner and adoration at this club IMO is a level greater than what Mount or Chalobah reached and I truly believe he can be upgrade on. It's not that I have some sort of personal vendetta against the guy chasing his dream.

If he stays as a squad player or even improves, fair play to him. I'm not omniscient or claim to be some sort of oracle on football. If he bounces out though like Mount and Gallagher before him, I don't think we'll notice barring we get the right player in to replace him.

Edited August 1, 2025Aug 1 by drool winner

9 hours ago, drool winner said:

Steve Parish quite literally nearly took us to court over the Michael Olise release clause, which is why we voluntarily backed off.

Are you new to the sport?

It's either that or the Greek mafia getting involved like with Marinakis.

No evidence that he had engaged counsel in preparation for a court case. Hell of a big difference between making a complaint either directly or through the regulatory body about ethical standards and actually initiating litigation.

2 minutes ago, WhiteWall said:

No evidence that he had engaged counsel in preparation for a court case. Hell of a big difference between making a complaint either directly or through the regulatory body about ethical standards and actually initiating litigation.

Nothing escalated, because the threat of legal action was enough to encourage Chelsea to back off on their own merit, like what typically occurs there. All Palace cared for was retaining Olise for an extra season, they upped his contract and added in a release clause and went on their merry way.

35 minutes ago, drool winner said:

This is called the fallacy of unwarranted assumption.

Nothing about your post is backed by any sort of objective merit.

Also blocking me = I win.

You're the second poster I've tapped out due to the strength of my metaphorical cranial orchestra. One less nagging presence making bad faith rebuttals in my notifications and attempting to dox me.

Good riddance!

"my metaphorical cranial orchestra" I have never heard of it being called that before. Generally i prefer @Gordon Bennett 's description.

Oh God it gets worse, hes now quoting that know nothing f**kwit.

I wonder how exactly you go about tapping up a player these days?

Everything is done is reverse. It used to be club to club, permission given, speak to the player/agent.

Now it’s done via the agent first, does this mean because there’s a third party you haven’t ‘tapped’ up the player directly even though that agent is passing all the info straight to his client?

In today’s world every transfer could be considered’tapping’ up because like I said it’s all done in reverse and personal terms and the fact the player is willing to move is all done before the clubs discuss fee.

As for the homegrown discussion, kids coming through our youth team always have and always will be given that bit of extra time and support. Can’t change it, won’t change it, wouldn’t want too.

22 hours ago, TheCeleryKing said:

I confess to not being the biggest Chalobah fan. I was all in favour of moving him on. I wanted to like him. I liked his big brother when he played for us. Chalobah is from Gypsy Hill in South London and he went to BTG school - more than familiar with the area. Really wanted to like the kid, but felt he wasn't good enough. When he came back to us on loan, he was good. Very good. I was surprised that we recalled him. Again, i think he has good physical attributes, etc, which you need in a CB, but I was not convinced by his ball playing abilities. I always liked my CB to be more Fik Tomori in style than Chalobah. . .But Chalobah has proved me wrong and may he continue to do so.

Did you drink in the Gypsy Tavern?,or other pubs around there ? Few of my mates lived in West Norwood . . And pub across the road from the cemetery back in the day ? , and 2 pubs opposite each other , One called the Norwood Arms maybe ? (on the one way street leading down eventually to Tulse Hill )

Edited August 1, 2025Aug 1 by The Rising Sun
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All this is being based upon our perceptions of what he might ultimately achieve and the level that he may get to at some point. In reality, to date, he hasn't done anything to warrant such skepticism. Also statistically his figures align to the actual eye test from what has been in front of us all upon his return, unlike Jackson.

I am definitely not an advocate of statistical based decision making, as stats can easily be manipulated to align with bias and i feel that the eye test on a week to week basis, is just as important. But combined they can help with informed judgement, if not on the potential future outcomes, certainly on what is currently in front of.

Whenever i look at these Stat comparison sites for the players that are in the range of possible replacements, Upamecano, Tapsoba, Silva, Guehi, etc, Chalobah either comes out on top or the differences are negligible.

Therefore, for me, the only reason why he is perpetually in this position, is because of the benefits of horse trading. Selling him for pure profit, getting in somebody slightly inferior but with an amortisation of their fee. For me, if we are looking to sort out the personnel in our defence, no way is Chalobah head of the queue. Of course the reality is, despite the twitter hot air there is no concrete interest being shown in either Disasi, Badiashile or (the rated but broken) Fofana.

44 minutes ago, dkw said:

Oh God it gets worse, hes now quoting that know nothing f**kwit

That PYS clickbait invented stories account??

He posts absolute sh*te, " unreliable source" doesn't even come close to describing that account