54 minutes ago, enigma said:

That's more to do with Kane and Son then the coach tbh. They were playing better without Conte in the dugout. Kane is saving their asses (once again) every week.

Unfortunately we don't have a Kane or Haaland. But then having no striker is not necessarily a good excuse as arsenal are doing it without a good striker. 

That last bit isn't right Enigma. Jesus has been absolutely superb for Arsenal this season. And when he was out injured Nketiah stepped up and mostly delivered for them.

We don't have a natural target man or instinctive finisher in any of our players. That and a top class keeper are the next pieces of the puzzle we need to find.

8 minutes ago, OriginalS said:

And actual top class manager like our last one would 100% be in the title race next season with our current squad.

And we'd also be challenging for Top 4 THIS season, and have an additional chance to retain our place at the Champions League top table ... 

It's not as if the standard to get Top 4 is so amazing that it was out of reach either ... win the game in hand, and we are 8 points back from Tottenham. If Potter could have rustled up 10-7-4 rather than 7-7-7 from his 21 games in charge we'd then be ahead of them and have something to play for ... and 10-7-4 is hardly even close to what this squad should be capable of from what has been a fairly favourable run of fixtures ... 

4 minutes ago, just said:

That last bit isn't right Enigma. Jesus has been absolutely superb for Arsenal this season. And when he was out injured Nketiah stepped up and mostly delivered for them.

We don't have a natural target man or instinctive finisher in any of our players. That and a top class keeper are the next pieces of the puzzle we need to find.

We do, but he's been ostracised.

2 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

And we'd also be challenging for Top 4 THIS season, and have an additional chance to retain our place at the Champions League top table ... 

It's not as if the standard to get Top 4 is so amazing that it was out of reach either ... win the game in hand, and we are 8 points back from Tottenham. If Potter could have rustled up 10-7-4 rather than 7-7-7 from his 21 games in charge we'd then be ahead of them and have something to play for ... and 10-7-4 is hardly even close to what this squad should be capable of from what has been a fairly favourable run of fixtures ... 

Of course.

Only thing we have achieved with Potter so far is that we won't partake in the Champions League next season. And if he's given next season as well I think very few are confident we'll manage to qualify next season either.

 

Just now, Sexyfootball said:

We do, but he's been ostracised.

Correction: we don't have a natural target man or instinctive finisher in any of our players who looks like they can be arsed and isn't way past their sell-buy date.

2 minutes ago, just said:

Correction: we don't have a natural target man or instinctive finisher in any of our players who looks like they can be arsed and isn't way past their sell-buy date.

He was arsed when he got three goals and one assist in his first five games for the club wasn't he? He got off to a terrific start at the club.

 

Surely some of the experienced in football board members/back room staff have to start getting in Boehly's ear and tell him that Potter is clueless on how to manage a top team. Still can't get over that Gallagher sub what an idiot 

8 minutes ago, OriginalS said:

He was arsed when he got three goals and one assist in his first five games for the club wasn't he? He got off to a terrific start at the club.

 

https://www.theshedend.com/topic/35469-pierre-emerick-aubameyang-at-chelsea-official/page/34/#comments

 

8 minutes ago, OriginalS said:

He was arsed when he got three goals and one assist in his first five games for the club wasn't he? He got off to a terrific start at the club.

 

Lukaku also made a good start under Tuchel. Then it all went downhill from there.

Just now, just said:

Lukaku also made a good start under Tuchel. Then it all went downhill from there.

Yeah but he literally committed mutiny.

Potter have praised Aubas professionalism and the way he's handled himself. Has he been arsed since being humiliated and dropped from the Champions League and dropped behind Fofana who's now in the development squad in the packing order? Probably not but neither would I be if it became painfully clear I had no future under the manager.

Didn’t watch the match yesterday as I went out with the family and I am glad I did because it would have been another annoying evening spoilt. 
Matter what happens Potter is just not good enough.

2 minutes ago, OriginalS said:

Yeah but he literally committed mutiny.

Potter have praised Aubas professionalism and the way he's handled himself. Has he been arsed since being humiliated and dropped from the Champions League and dropped behind Fofana who's now in the development squad in the packing order? Probably not but neither would I be if it became painfully clear I had no future under the manager.

PEA was an awful "Hail Mary" signing that 90% of people on this forum predicted would prove to be a bad move. That's exactly how it has turned out. His work rate and effort off the ball, and his hold up play is non-existent. The opposition had the ball, we had ten men. Potter was 100% right to leave him out.

9 hours ago, timetowaste said:

Thinking back to the game I genuinely feel bad for most of our players. We should have won that game 4/5-0 and and it was undone by awful managerial decisions and individual sh*tness from Koulibaly and Kepa. This is what it's going to be until at least Xmas by the way, at this point I don't think Potter is going anywhere before he gets a pre-season and half a season.

He’s hear until at least January 2024 he’s not going anywhere.

2 minutes ago, just said:

PEA was an awful "Hail Mary" signing that 90% of people on this forum predicted would prove to be a bad move. That's exactly how it has turned out. His work rate and effort off the ball, and his hold up play is non-existent. The opposition had the ball, we had ten men. Potter was 100% right to leave him out.

Think he would have been great if we had stuck to the plan but yes now he can be added to the list of monumental Todd Boehly mistakes. Sign him for Tuchel and then sack Tuchel five days after. Unfortunately the list is absolutely massive now and he's not even been here a year (Boehly)

The longer this charade continues, the more stupid Boehly appears to the knowledgeable connoisseurs of this great game.

Potter is so far into deep water, he needs buoyancy aids to keep him afloat, Todd do the decent thing, cut him adrift, and get a proper manager in ffs.

Yesterdays result was just so predictable, shocking still to see us faffing about, he definitely doesn’t know his strongest team, and seems to want to placate all his squad🤔🤔🤔

2 minutes ago, OriginalS said:

Think he would have been great if we had stuck to the plan but yes now he can be added to the list of monumental Todd Boehly mistakes. Sign him for Tuchel and then sack Tuchel five days after. Unfortunately the list is absolutely massive now and he's not even been here a year (Boehly)

In his prime PEA was a top striker. But he is waaaay past his prime and has looked it. I think he would have been a failure second time around in the EPL whoever the manager was. We only went for him because there was no one else left. 

9 minutes ago, OriginalS said:

Think he would have been great if we had stuck to the plan but yes now he can be added to the list of monumental Todd Boehly mistakes. Sign him for Tuchel and then sack Tuchel five days after. Unfortunately the list is absolutely massive now and he's not even been here a year (Boehly)

I wouldn't say he's had many 'monumental mistakes' the biggest mistake he's making is hoping his punt on Potter is going to work out when I think 90% of Chelsea fans know that isn't gonna happen. He's made some learning curve mistakes but if we're looking at squad whenever he realises Potter isn't the right choice we're in a good place. These players are massively being dragged down by the manager.

2 minutes ago, just said:

In his prime PEA was a top striker. But he is waaaay past his prime and has looked it. I think he would have been a failure second time around in the EPL whoever the manager was. We only went for him because there was no one else left. 

You're probably right, but I think if you create chances for him he will still score. He showed he can still do that at Barcelona. He's a finisher, he's not someone that is going to press or track back, but if you play to his strengths then he is still capable of putting the ball in the back of the net better than anyone else we have in the squad. Now that we have signed the likes of Fernandez, Felix and Mudryk, plus James and Chilwell back, you'd think it would be worth trying something like this :

3-4-2-1

James - Fernandez - Kovacic - Chilwell

                    Felix - Mudryk (or Havertz)

                   Aubameyang

Everyone was sh*te in the Arsenal loss, and yet Auba has copped pretty much all of the flak for that, and hasn't started since. We only had a collective 3 key passes in that game, and 5 chances overall, one of which fell to Auba. There isn't a striker on the planet that could do much with that sort of service.

Anyway, all water under the bridge as Potter isn't going to be play him !

36 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

You're probably right, but I think if you create chances for him he will still score. He showed he can still do that at Barcelona. He's a finisher, he's not someone that is going to press or track back, but if you play to his strengths then he is still capable of putting the ball in the back of the net better than anyone else we have in the squad. Now that we have signed the likes of Fernandez, Felix and Mudryk, plus James and Chilwell back, you'd think it would be worth trying something like this :

3-4-2-1

James - Fernandez - Kovacic - Chilwell

                    Felix - Mudryk (or Havertz)

                   Aubameyang

Everyone was sh*te in the Arsenal loss, and yet Auba has copped pretty much all of the flak for that, and hasn't started since. We only had a collective 3 key passes in that game, and 5 chances overall, one of which fell to Auba. There isn't a striker on the planet that could do much with that sort of service.

Anyway, all water under the bridge as Potter isn't going to be play him !

 

 

36 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

You're probably right, but I think if you create chances for him he will still score. He showed he can still do that at Barcelona. He's a finisher, he's not someone that is going to press or track back, but if you play to his strengths then he is still capable of putting the ball in the back of the net better than anyone else we have in the squad. Now that we have signed the likes of Fernandez, Felix and Mudryk, plus James and Chilwell back, you'd think it would be worth trying something like this :

3-4-2-1

James - Fernandez - Kovacic - Chilwell

                    Felix - Mudryk (or Havertz)

                   Aubameyang

Everyone was sh*te in the Arsenal loss, and yet Auba has copped pretty much all of the flak for that, and hasn't started since. We only had a collective 3 key passes in that game, and 5 chances overall, one of which fell to Auba. There isn't a striker on the planet that could do much with that sort of service.

Anyway, all water under the bridge as Potter isn't going to be play him !

From the BBC match report following the 1-0 loss to Man City:

"Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang was the early substitute for Sterling but suffered the ignominy of being substituted late on. He could have no complaints after a poor performance in which he looked a thoroughly spent force".

Edited March 19, 20233 yr by just

Premier League clubs that have made management changes mid-season, with the new manager ranked by points per PL game since he was appointed :

9 managers across 8 clubs, and Potter ranks Tied 5th (with Ruben Selles) out of the 9 as it stands ... 

Make of that what you will ...  🙂 

31 minutes ago, just said:

From the BBC match report following the 1-0 loss to Man City:

"Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang was the early substitute for Sterling but suffered the ignominy of being substituted late on. He could have no complaints after a poor performance in which he looked a thoroughly spent force".

A classic McNulty BBC article - the whole tone of it was excuses for Potter, and what better way to deflect attention than to chuck one player under the bus ... Auba did have a stinker no doubt, but even so ... 

Full article here if anyone cares to read it  : https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64113785 

Boehly won't sack him because financially it would be a disaster and Potter won't resign under current circumstances because he won't let go of a fat pay check as long as he feels that Boehly is afraid to pull the trigger because of financial reasons.

The only way out for Potter is if the fans turn against him and the squad turn against him, too and start to make fun of him and his methods and stuff like that and he gets fed up with it and finally resigns. But then the player power will be back at the club again and no manager will be good enough after a few losses.

What a monumental mistake was to replace a world class manager with this fraud. Sporting wise a total mess, financially a disaster. He's been in charge for half a year and we look like a mid table, second division Italian club. 

Next season we could play with two weeks rest in between matches, not only one, and we'd still finish outside top four with Potter in charge. 

Unless we win the Champions League, there is nothing Potter can do right now to convince me he's the man for the job this season. Obviously, he's going to be here next season regardless. 

But I might surprise some people here, however, I don't think last game was as bad as people are saying it is. We should definitely be beating Everton and not conceding 2 goals to such a negative team, but he's at least got this team on some track since the horrific Tottenham game. Which he desperately needed to do, we are playing better which is the very least I want to see. But again, we killed that momentum for strange substitutions.

Also, a key issue I have is, it's at the expense of the 3 at the back. One thing I was happy about Potter doing was binning the 3 at the back. But I also understand why, we've needed results and performances and we play better with 3 at the back. But I think the transition is going to be far harder rolling into next season now.

I'm still mind-boggled by a lot of his subs, not even Jose did silly sh*t like that. He would shot a defender on for a CM at late points in a game but Potter puts half the f**king bench on. Can't for the life of me seeing us getting past Madrid, I've got no hope of us winning that tie, the only hope I have is that the defeats are not embarrassing. 

Edited March 19, 20233 yr by Victor90

16 hours ago, Argo said:

For not challenging for the title? Sure although i don't think he's as innocent with some of those signings as people try and claim.

For failing to finish top four (and throwing that City game) is all on him, and only him.

I agree.

I do think he's 100% right about Tottenham in what he's saying, but he never takes responsibility either. 

He said in the summer after winning the league he lacks depth and he needs more players, he got a lot of players added to the ranks, then he said something like we have too many players what we needed was 2-3 world-class ones so it didn't mess with the transition. 

It's no coincidence that he's always having these form of meltdowns at every club he manages really. Tottenham was always going to end in disaster. 

Just now, Victor90 said:

Unless we win the Champions League, there is nothing Potter can do right now to convince me he's the man for the job this season. 

So what if you're not convinced? It's irrelevant, I'm not convinced, no one is convinced.