1 minute ago, Mário César said:

i wouldn't mind of conte again but I know most of you are against this idea 

 

Problem with Conte is his default position of downing tools as soon as things don't go his way or the pressure mounts. It's a self destruct button the size of Katie Price's nipples

 

7 minutes ago, loz said:

Problem with Conte is his default position of downing tools as soon as things don't go his way or the pressure mounts. It's a self destruct button the size of Katie Price's nipples

 

still make the team competitive I would no doubt that we would fight for top4 with no problems 

even in this sh*t season, he at least is fighting for top4 and tottenham have some chance of getting the 4th place 

11 minutes ago, Mário César said:

i wouldn't mind of conte again but I know most of you are against this idea 

 

I'd love to have Conte back, I actually think having a board that's hands on and communicates would be good for him, a fall out is less likely. Not to mention we have a very good recruitment director in Vivell.

 

Though I do worry about Conte's record in the cups + against big teams. He's the opposite of Tuchel in that sense, good at putting away smaller teams but struggling against the big teams, whereas under Tuchel we could outplay the best teams, but struggle to break down smaller sides.  

2 minutes ago, Drogba1 said:

I'd love to have Conte back, I actually think having a board that's hands on and communicates would be good for him, a fall out is less likely. Not to mention we have a very good recruitment director in Vivell.

 

Though I do worry about Conte's record in the cups + against big teams. He's the opposite of Tuchel in that sense, good at putting away smaller teams but struggling against the big teams, whereas under Tuchel we could outplay the best teams, but struggle to break down smaller sides.  

its primordial get at least 4th place next season

two times in a row failied top4 its very problematic and Im worried about that with potter

newcastle will be more stronger next season as liverpool, united and arsenal and city

37 minutes ago, Mário César said:

its primordial get at least 4th place next season

two times in a row failied top4 its very problematic and Im worried about that with potter

newcastle will be more stronger next season as liverpool, united and arsenal and city

Be suicide going into next season with him in the dugout. Almost embarrassing at this point.

Edited March 18, 20233 yr by Chelsbear

1 hour ago, Mário César said:

i wouldn't mind of conte again but I know most of you are against this idea 

 

If I agree with you, am I 'for' or 'against'?!? 🫡🫡🫡

conte get tottenham a few monts after the beginning of the season and get 4th place 

potter get chelsea in october and we are sh*t, atm

potter needs to finish season strongly to have the board and supporters confidence... it he continues in this way not winning games and not get enough points I fear for our next season

we have a good squad. its hardly believe that we can not attract a good manager

Thinking back to the game I genuinely feel bad for most of our players. We should have won that game 4/5-0 and and it was undone by awful managerial decisions and individual sh*tness from Koulibaly and Kepa. This is what it's going to be until at least Xmas by the way, at this point I don't think Potter is going anywhere before he gets a pre-season and half a season.

which managers in the summer will be avaliable ?

hired potter was a big big mystake. he's impact in our club is being massive in negative way 

ffs

Graham Potter's side had control of the game by leading twice but on each occasion Everton fought their way back into contention.

Felix brought class to proceedings and fully merited his goal, but he was substituted late on as Potter adopted a more conservative approach which ultimately failed to secure the desired result.

Chelsea have shown improvement in recent weeks but this was an opportunity missed and stopped their revival in its tracks.

Potter is still navigating...

His way back to the Championship ?

He's got to go he couldn't manage a piss up in a brewery let alone a top club like Chelsea.

Bring back Conte. His rant today did it for me. Just what we need in this group of players. 

His tactics reflect a small club mentality.. no consistency in his decisions.. personnel or formation.. he is not good enough for a club this size..

5 hours ago, Drogba1 said:

I'd love to have Conte back, I actually think having a board that's hands on and communicates would be good for him, a fall out is less likely.

Until we can't spare £250m for Kvaratskhelia and he starts telling us how we can't compete with Spurs because they have Son, Kane and Kulusevski.

9 hours ago, abister1 said:

Why though? 

It's not like we are a highly placed team. We started the game in 11th place so obviously Everton is round our level and we need to be cautious. 

You guys just need to get behind Todd and his boy Potter. We are looking for stability as a club and are on point at the moment. 

On point as what? Stability of winning f**k all trophies, playing like crap, dropping points against relegation teams at home and finishing midtable is not the kind of stability we should be aiming for.

He may be a good coach but probably not a quality manager. I think his personality doesn't suit the job. Sometimes you have to get into players' faces and let them know this type of attitude/performance won't be tolerated. If we failed to see out the match like that under Jose or Conte, there'd be a carnage in the dressing room afterwards. With Potter, it's just another day at the office.

It's funny. We have almost all of our players back, have full week's training regularly because we're out of the domestic cups, so we have time and resources available and yet come matchday we still look like a midtable team, with flashes of nice passages of play here and there, but ultimately not good enough even to finish off some of the worst teams in the league at home.. Every team is a representation of the manager's personality and this is Potter's.

If I thought Potter could guide us to a title challenge next season I would take this one as a one off but nothing shows us he can do that. No European football, more mid table football, more dull analysis after every match I couldn’t take another season like this one..  So far out of his depth it’s unreal. Surely someone in the newly assembled team of directors of football will be calling Todd today to say get rid of him!

38 minutes ago, abramovich said:

On point as what? Stability of winning f**k all trophies, playing like crap, dropping points against relegation teams at home and finishing midtable is not the kind of stability we should be aiming for.

Well just so you know when us proper Chelsea fans, the die hard ones, the ones that have been here when we were sh*t, were you? When we gather round with our mates in the pub we like to be given pats on the back as the booze flows whilst the virtues of our club as a proper stable club that gives managers backing is extolled. 

Besides we have won everything there is to win under the sun in modern football with the last ownership anyway, let's get back to more important things like being a steady and stable club. By the way the team is improving, before our game we were 11th we are 10th now and will probably improve and finish the season in 8th or 9th. 

The biggest problem so far with Potter is that I really don't know what he is building. 

With every manager it does not matter if you are as loose as ancelotti or as strict as pep or as circuity as sarri/conte you can see what they are trying to do. You can see repeatable pattern here and there.

With Potter, I am completely lost. 

 

 

Our Premier League record under Potter is now won 7 drawn 7 lost 7 scored 21 conceded 19, goal difference +2, points 28.

In the corresponding fixtures last season we were 12-6-3, 43, 21, +22, points 42.

So we're basically achieving a third less points, and scoring half the number of goals under Potter LOL

Go Graham !

9 hours ago, Mário César said:

still make the team competitive I would no doubt that we would fight for top4 with no problems 

even in this sh*t season, he at least is fighting for top4 and tottenham have some chance of getting the 4th place 

That's more to do with Kane and Son then the coach tbh. They were playing better without Conte in the dugout. Kane is saving their asses (once again) every week.

Unfortunately we don't have a Kane or Haaland. But then having no striker is not necessarily a good excuse as arsenal are doing it without a good striker. 

The most frustrating thing is losing points at home to relegation fodder. It's not good enough. I can sort of understand dropping pts against Everton or Southampton away, but at home, nah it's not acceptable. Arsenal and Liverpool beat this lot at home without conceding. Everton f**king scraped pts out of nothing yesterday ffs. 

The unrealistic expectations of some on here are so funny. Talk about “if we don’t challenge for the title next year”!!! Wake up and smell the coffee!!! We are MILES off challenging for titles - and have been for a number of seasons. The rot was well and truly set in and this will take time to rectify.

As many of the more balanced posters have reminded, there will be a number of ups and downs as we reset and find the new identity. Today saw both ups and downs.

Ups:

- some good, fluid and attacking football , that saw us dominate possession and attacking chances. 
 

downs:

- despite monopolising the ball and chances, we still didn’t create enough clear cut chances.

Ups:

- After initially losing the lead, we didn’t just disintegrate as we had in the past. And fought back to retake the lead.

downs:

- individual errors, or rather lack of quality cost us. K2 and Kepa in this case. Both not good enough.

Ups:

First time We have had a player score in 3 consecutive games for a while. Getting some goalscoring consistency to match our overall upturn in performances.

Downs:

Uninspiring or downright unneeded subs.  Potter gives the feeling of tinkering for the sake of it. Today was not good enough from him. 

Downs:

Whilst on potter - we need to flag the horrendous defensive system at corners. Why do we keep having the smallest players marking the opposing teams tallests? Indefensible and cost us today. 

 

 

 

Edited March 19, 20233 yr by nonotnowjim

11 hours ago, axman2526 said:

My only question on Potters subs today was the Chalobah for Fofana one. Did Wes get a knock and need to come off?

If you are looking to defend, which I have no issue with near the end of a game, you should not mess about with your back line.

If he wanted Chalobah on for his strength, then sub off a forward or midfielder, not Fofana. If Wes is on maybe he can help prevent that goal.

Otherwise Gallagher has been good for us of late and CP is not fit for 90 minutes, clearly Kante was not ready for this type of game.

Fofana had cramp 5 minutes earlier, but played on, sure he couldve lasted 5 more minutes.  Rather than disrupt the defence with it being so tight and near the end of the game. If he is injured and lulls out the france squad then I hold my hand up.

Gallagher for Pulisic is not the worse sub depending on the scenario. At home to Dortmund in a knockout game, or away at leicester, it makes sense, as both teams are strong in possession, so gallagher breaking up play to start counters works. At home after 60 minutes to an Everton side that we are dominating with the ball, I dont see the benefit of encouraging them to push forward and win a few set pieces. Surely the way to see out a game against them would be to keep the ball, it's not a team you want to soak up pressure, because of their set piece threat.

Chukwuemeka coming on makes no sense for me either. He is so raw, so inexperienced, and instead of nurturing his talent, all season we bring him on to either save results or protect them. Feel sorry for him tbh. Not sure we needed to this sub at all.

RLC I didnt have a problem with because he had already set his defensive stall out, so the height advantage over Kovacic was a plus.

Not good enough. He is probably the 10th best manager in the league, so we are par for course.

2 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said:

We are MILES of challenging for titles - and have been for a number of seasons. The rot was well and truly set in and this will take time to rectify.

Except when we won the bloody Champions League, Super Cup and Club World Cup less than two years ago? And except when we were actually in the lead of the title race until a unprecedented injury crisis hit last season? Perhaps you'd have a good point if none of that happened but unfortunately for you it did. And that's before an investment of £600 million and adding absolute quality like Enzo, Felix, Fofana, Mudryk to our team.

We have a coward of a manager. Start with that problem and go from there.

And actual top class manager like our last one would 100% be in the title race next season with our current squad.

10 hours ago, Drogba1 said:

I'd love to have Conte back, I actually think having a board that's hands on and communicates would be good for him, a fall out is less likely. Not to mention we have a very good recruitment director in Vivell.

Though I do worry about Conte's record in the cups + against big teams. He's the opposite of Tuchel in that sense, good at putting away smaller teams but struggling against the big teams, whereas under Tuchel we could outplay the best teams, but struggle to break down smaller sides.  

Serial quitter when the going gets tough. And he moans more than the wife. No thanks.

Quote from Todd Boehly from last night:

"Sh*t f*cking game."

 

Interesting comment - even if it was a joke.