The fact is that Argentina has the best fans in the world, they don't care about what others think at all they sang a song against Pele and Brazil during the whole World Cup that was in Brazil.

Feel sorry for any Frenchman that is offended but that's life.

24 minutes ago, Zeta said:

Apology + fine + some discrimination training or something. No need to blow it massively out or proportion. Talk of sacking him is insane.

Also, since most of the bus were singing it, how come he's the only one getting into any trouble?

Other players are other clubs' headache and responsibility. Enzo is our player and how the club handles this controvercy is going to have long term consequences not only for him and his future but our standing as a sport institution.

If CFC grow some balls and get rid of the player, other clubs whose players were involved in the incident will be put in a difficult situation where anything short of the same reaction would make them look complicit. It's about setting an example of what can or cannot be tolerated. An attempt to turn it into a PR exercise with phony scripted apologies and the "need to educate" the player is not going to change the atmosphere in the dressing room, not to mention will make the club a target of mass criticism from all sides. This issue concerns not just our club and our players, what happens when Enzo in a CFC shirt has to play against other clubs with black footballers that don't share his 'sense of humour' regarding the African origins of French national team players? 

The only possible solution that doesn't involve Enzo leaving the club is him having a face-to-face conversation with his teammates ASAP where he explains his behaviour, admits he's wrong and asks for their forgiveness. If he's granted that, the club can then proceed to fine him and suspend him but the door for his return and eventual reconciliation will still be open. Anything short of that is going to destroy the team unity from within, because some of the players(Jackson) have already come out in support of him, so it's creating a tension and divisiveness already.

1 minute ago, abramovich said:

Other players are other clubs' headache and responsibility. Enzo is our player and how the club handles this controvercy is going to have long term consequences not only for him and his future but our standing as a sport institution.

If CFC grow some balls and get rid of the player, other clubs whose players were involved in the incident will be put in a difficult situation where anything short of the same reaction would make them look complicit. It's about setting an example of what can or cannot be tolerated. An attempt to turn it into a PR exercise with phony scripted apologies and the "need to educate" the player is not going to change the atmosphere in the dressing room, not to mention will make the club a target of mass criticism from all sides. This issue concerns not just our club and our players, what happens when Enzo in a CFC shirt has to play against other clubs with black footballers that don't share his 'sense of humour' regarding the African origins of French national team players? 

The only possible solution that doesn't involve Enzo leaving the club is him having a face-to-face conversation with his teammates ASAP where he explains his behaviour, admits he's wrong and asks for their forgiveness. If he's granted that, the club can then proceed to fine him and suspend him but the door for his return and eventual reconciliation will still be open. Anything short of that is going to destroy the team unity from within, because some of the players(Jackson) have already come out in support of him, so it's creating a tension and divisiveness already.

Why would we let one of our best players leave the club? Because the French FA is offended for the way the Argentinian team celebrates their wins on their own bus somewhere across the ocean?

Please...

1 hour ago, dermott said:

All quiet on the Man City front despite Alvarez's contribution to proceedings.

He wants out anyway, so won’t worry them.

5 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

Why would we let one of our best players leave the club? Because the French FA is offended for the way the Argentinian team celebrates their wins on their own bus somewhere across the ocean?

Please...

Because he's racially insulted several of his teammates?

 

 

 

7 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

Why would we let one of our best players leave the club? Because the French FA is offended for the way the Argentinian team celebrates their wins on their own bus somewhere across the ocean?

Please...

Tone deaf.

Reading this is classic football fan logic on display by many.

He’s our player and quite good (not that I’ve seen much evidence of that) and therefore everyone should man up and move on and learn lessons and say ‘soz’.

But Suarez should have been shot when he was racist because he just didn’t play for my team!!!!

3 minutes ago, OriginalS said:

Because he's racially insulted several of his teammates?

 

 

 

If there are any issues within the squad that can be solved in-house, no reason for anyone outside the team to judge how someone might or might not feel about the way Argentinians celebrate.

🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

2 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

If there are any issues within the squad that can be solved in-house, no reason for anyone outside the team to judge how someone might or might not feel about the way Argentinians celebrate.

I don't think you get it at all.

1 hour ago, Nick05 said:

Some problem with submit reply button. Double and triple post becoming common.

Yup. Hit Submit and nothing appears to happen. Hit it again, etc. Some sort of lag in the software.

25 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

The fact is that Argentina has the best fans in the world, they don't care about what others think at all they sang a song against Pele and Brazil during the whole World Cup that was in Brazil.

Feel sorry for any Frenchman that is offended but that's life.

You racist.

1 minute ago, Snedger said:

You racist.

If you don't understand other people's culture it doesn't mean that they should understand your, nobody in the Argentinian team is racist because of a silly chant in a bus...

5 minutes ago, OriginalS said:

I don't think you get it at all.

If thats all then I guess Enzo can say the same to you.

Enzo is probably happily seeing this as his way out of Chelsea. Never rated him as a player, and there's no excuse to be so blatantly ignorant as a person. Good riddance, if need be.

1 minute ago, Gol15 said:

If thats all then I guess Enzo can say the same to you.

I can assure you i've never been a racist twat.

2 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

If you don't understand other people's culture it doesn't mean that they should understand your, nobody in the Argentinian team is racist because of a silly chant in a bus...

You racist.

29 minutes ago, El regreso said:

There will be a split in the dressing room no way to avoid that now. Nico on instagram 

 

So, are you saying that Nico is siding with Enzo? 🤷🏼‍♂️

1 minute ago, OriginalS said:

I can assure you i've never been a racist twat.

I can in that case assure you that nobody in whole South America considers Enzo a racist twat either, but feel free to judge him from your angle there that has a completely different context in comparison to how people are in another part of the world...

3 minutes ago, Snedger said:

You racist.

No u

4 minutes ago, RMH said:

So, are you saying that Nico is siding with Enzo? 🤷🏼‍♂️

Yes

3 hours ago, El regreso said:

That statement is pathetic!!!

No it isnt, what do you expect them to say exactly?

 

Hes a moron, hes made a huge mistake, but hes still a young lad. He needs punished for this, the club need to handle this well so the punishment needs to be just. But sacking him isnt the way to go.

40 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

The fact is that Argentina has the best fans in the world, they don't care about what others think at all they sang a song against Pele and Brazil during the whole World Cup that was in Brazil.

Feel sorry for any Frenchman that is offended but that's life.

You complete idiot, usually your a harmless idiot but this is bang out of order. 

1 minute ago, El regreso said:

Yes

Hmmm, how do we take this as he's African, obviously he doesn't feel offended. Are we blowing it out of proportion? I don't know, I'm not black or homosexual (let's not forget the LGBTIQ+ community was also target of the chant) so I can't really tell a black person how to feel about the Argentinean chant. I think that the best option is that Enzo goes back to Cobham and the players solve the issue amongst themselves, and the Club to take disciplinary action.