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Liverpool v Chelsea (PL) Sat 21st Jan 2023 12:30 GMT

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Just now, hawkster said:

Defence worries me the most although scoring is also an issue also midfield can get overrun so fek it well probs hammer them 

No it's the other way around, only 3 teams have conceded less goals than us (the top 3), we should be in the top 4, but our attack is way off the mark, 11 out of 19 teams have a better scoring record than we do this season. You cant blame that all on injuries. We will have to see if the new attacking players we bought are going to change things, otherwise we could really struggle to score.

Potter had Brighton 16th last season for goals scored. 

Is it actually possible for Mudryk to have his debut here?

Imagine if he silences those fans and we win away, instant fan favorite...

16 hours ago, Bebe1980 said:

Prefer to see:

 

----------------- Kepa -----------------

Chalobah -- Thiago Silva -- Badiashile -- Cucurella

----------- Kovacic ----- Zakaria --------

Ziyech --------- Gallagher --------- Mudryk

------------- Havertz --------------

 

If Mount has a good game he is ok - but he only has 1 in 10 good games - Gallagher seems to make the ball move quicker.

Has Gallagher ever had a good game against a team other than Palace?

Kepa

Chalobah  Silva  Badiashile  Hall

Jorginho   Kovacic

Ziyech   Mount   Mudryk

Havertz

think team largely picks itself these days with whos fit. Possible changes being A back 3 but i'd rather see us stick to the back 4. Cucu for Hall another option for experience but i'd like to see Hall gain some momentum. Mudryk v Trent should be the easiest debut he'll ever get.

Edited by RIP Mourinho

1 hour ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Kepa

Chalobah  Silva  Badiashile  Hall

Jorginho   Kovacic

Ziyech   Mount   Mudryk

Havertz

think team largely picks itself these days with whos fit. Possible changes being A back 3 but i'd rather see us stick to the back 4. Cucu for Hall another option for experience but i'd like to see Hall gain some momentum. Mudryk v Trent should be the easiest debut he'll ever get.

Yes. I suspect something along these lines too. After this game we have 2 weeks before the next match, so we might start seeing a player or 2 back from injury then.

Despite their current poor form, Liverpool still have some dangerous players so this will be a tough game. But would be great to get a win up there and really push them into crisis mode.

Despite how poor Liverool was at times, playing against them at Anfield is a completely different perspective than Palace at home. The weakness in our defence and midfield will be perfect for their attack. The winless streak against top half team has to end one day, hopefully this game, but certainly not counting on it.

Given De Zerbi took over one of the lowest scoring teams in the league last season and his Brighton have put 3 past Liverpool both times they've played them I expect a similar quality of attacking performance from us.

Yes it's Anfield but given how poor Liverpool are and VVD being injured there's no excuse for us not to see some kind of attacking performance. 

If we get another 0.1 Xg 1 shot Potter masterclass he should walk because this is a winnable game.

8 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Has Gallagher ever had a good game against a team other than Palace?

I think you got to give some of the younger players a decent run in the team...

How long have we stuck with clean sheet Mount and Dave down the right not providing?

7 hours ago, Bebe1980 said:

I think you got to give some of the younger players a decent run in the team...

How long have we stuck with clean sheet Mount and Dave down the right not providing?

Conor's played 24 games this season already, pretty good run in the team to show something. 

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1 hour ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Conor's played 24 games this season already, pretty good run in the team to show something. 

Almost as many games as Potter has had.

3 minutes ago, coco said:

Almost as many games as Potter has had.

touche.

I'd argue Potter has had the worst injury crisis ever recorded for a manager while Conor has had 24 games with a free shot to make a name for himself to cement his spot and not done so (yet).

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7 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

touche.

I'd argue Potter has had the worst injury crisis ever recorded for a manager while Conor has had 24 games with a free shot to make a name for himself to cement his spot and not done so (yet).

Prepared to judge Conor in an injury decimated team, but excuse Potter, deluded.

8 minutes ago, coco said:

Prepared to judge Conor in an injury decimated team, but excuse Potter, deluded.

Lets not forget Conor's games under Tuchel either though. Couldn't make a pass forward to save his life. 

Like i said, i'm indifferent as we have a lot of players in the squad as fillers so one more doesn't make much difference. I simply think he has the most resale value and Hall is already younger/better and should naturally play in the middle. 

26 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

touche.

I'd argue Potter has had the worst injury crisis ever recorded for a manager while Conor has had 24 games with a free shot to make a name for himself to cement his spot and not done so (yet).

I'm maybe guilty of giving academy players more leeway than others, but even so, what I would say in Conor's defence is that he's gone from playing in the same position every week alongside the same players (more or less), to being asked to play a whole host of positions alongside different players and under two different managers.

He was good against Palace, not great, but good. He was playing about as close to his preferred position as he has at any point so far for Chelsea.

It was a good performance to build upon, and I'm hoping that if he gets some good minutes under his belt over the remainder of the season he kicks on a bit and impresses.

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11 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Lets not forget Conor's games under Tuchel either though. Couldn't make a pass forward to save his life. 

Like i said, i'm indifferent as we have a lot of players in the squad as fillers so one more doesn't make much difference. I simply think he has the most resale value and Hall is already younger/better and should naturally play in the middle. 

It's easy to sell him to Palace, but what if City came in with a decent bid for Conor ? Or any other top 6 team ?

3 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Conor's played 24 games this season already, pretty good run in the team to show something. 

I'd define played as more than 75 mins a game - and a run as 5 or 6 games together:

 

                   
Date Match No Comp Home Result Vs Starts Pos Mins Played Count
06/08/2022 Match01 Premier League Away W 1–0 Everton No CM 1 No  
14/08/2022 Match02 Premier League Home D 2–2 Tottenham No CM 6 No  
21/08/2022 Match03 Premier League Away L 0–3 Leeds United Yes CM,RM 63 No  
27/08/2022 Match04 Premier League Home W 2–1 Leicester City Yes CM 27 No  
03/09/2022 Match05 Premier League Home W 2–1 West Ham Yes CM 59 No  
06/09/2022 Match06 Champions Lg Away L 0–1 hr Dinamo Zagreb No Bench 0 No  
14/09/2022 Match07 Champions Lg Home D 1–1 at RB Salzburg No RM,CM 10 No  
01/10/2022 Match08 Premier League Away W 2–1 Crystal Palace No RW 15 No  
05/10/2022 Match09 Champions Lg Home W 3–0 it Milan No AM 26 No  
08/10/2022 Match10 Premier League Home W 3–0 Wolves Yes RW,AM 85 Yes 1
11/10/2022 Match11 Champions Lg Away W 2–0 it Milan No AM 45 No  
16/10/2022 Match12 Premier League Away W 2–0 Aston Villa No AM,FW 33 No  
19/10/2022 Match13 Premier League Away D 0–0 Brentford Yes DM 14 No  
22/10/2022 Match14 Premier League Home D 1–1 Manchester Utd No Bench 0 No  
25/10/2022 Match15 Champions Lg Away W 2–1 at RB Salzburg Yes CM,RW 87 Yes 2
29/10/2022 Match16 Premier League Away L 1–4 Brighton Yes AM,RM 78 Yes 3
02/11/2022 Match17 Champions Lg Home W 2–1 hr Dinamo Zagreb No RM 27 No  
06/11/2022 Match18 Premier League Home L 0–1 Arsenal No AM 27 No  
09/11/2022 Match19 EFL Cup Away L 0–2 Manchester City No   23 No  
12/11/2022 Match20 Premier League Away L 0–1 Newcastle Utd Yes AM,RM,WB 90 Yes 4
12/11/2022 Match21 Premier League Away L 0–1 Newcastle Utd Yes AM,RM,WB 90 Yes 5
27/12/2022 Match22 Premier League Home W 2–0 Bournemouth No CM,RM 9 No  
01/01/2023 Match23 Premier League Away D 1–1 Nott'ham Forest No DM 18 No  
05/01/2023 Match24 Premier League Home L 0–1 Manchester City No AM 22 No  
08/01/2023 Match25 FA Cup Away L 0–4 Manchester City Yes CM 90 Yes 6
12/01/2023 Match26 Premier League Away L 1–2 Fulham No CM 12 No  
15/01/2023 Match27 Premier League Home W 1–0 Crystal Palace Yes DM,RM 90 Yes

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Will be an interesting match both teams have had problems this season though also think they will lift themselves for playing us.

With having the new players gives us some advantage as they will not know their weaknesses that well.

The Anfleld crowds'effect on the officials will be their 12th man too, hard one to call.

 

18 hours ago, TimesUpPotter said:

Given De Zerbi took over one of the lowest scoring teams in the league last season and his Brighton have put 3 past Liverpool both times they've played them I expect a similar quality of attacking performance from us.

Yes it's Anfield but given how poor Liverpool are and VVD being injured there's no excuse for us not to see some kind of attacking performance. 

If we get another 0.1 Xg 1 shot Potter masterclass he should walk because this is a winnable game.

When Potter gets a proper chance with this club and starts getting success are you going to change your username?  Or will you just disappear from here?

27 minutes ago, Droyman said:

When Potter gets a proper chance with this club and starts getting success are you going to change your username?  Or will you just disappear from here?

You tell me it's your dream

He's had a proper chance, Potter has already managed more games for us than Nuno did at Spurs.  Hasn't managed to live up to Nunos win percentage there though.

Not that you'd expect him to given Nuno at Wolves was a cut above Potter at Brighton and the step up is hard.

If Potter starts showing something he'll have my support but I'm not going to blindly back the worst manager we've had in decades with the worst resume  who then immediately sends us on our worst run since April 1996.  He has everything to prove.

A real question is what would it take for you to admit Potter isn't the right man given 2 wins in 11 games apparently isn't enough? Do we need to be relegated or would that be part of our long term project under Potter?  Where's the line?

Edited by TimesUpPotter

7 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Lets not forget Conor's games under Tuchel either though. Couldn't make a pass forward to save his life. 

The same can be said for every other player in the squad. It’s sideways and backwards across the board!

4 hours ago, TimesUpPotter said:

You tell me it's your dream

He's had a proper chance, Potter has already managed more games for us than Nuno did at Spurs.  Hasn't managed to live up to Nunos win percentage there though.

Not that you'd expect him to given Nuno at Wolves was a cut above Potter at Brighton and the step up is hard.

If Potter starts showing something he'll have my support but I'm not going to blindly back the worst manager we've had in decades with the worst resume  who then immediately sends us on our worst run since April 1996.  He has everything to prove.

A real question is what would it take for you to admit Potter isn't the right man given 2 wins in 11 games apparently isn't enough? Do we need to be relegated or would that be part of our long term project under Potter?  Where's the line?

Give him the summer, let him spend 300m first, that way there will be no doubts about whether he's capable of making a top team or not. 

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