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Vivell placed on gardening leave

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1 hour ago, Kev56 said:

I saw that, any clues as to why?

Looks like he didn't like a restructure that saw him reporting into winstanley and stewart. 

He saw himself as senior to both of them.

2 hours ago, AndyDowsleftflank said:

So thats Vivell, Glick, Willoughby and Potter gone within a year. Doesn’t really seem like a well planned operation, to put it mildly

Or an alternative take, they hired people who had a good reputation but who turned out to be the wrong stuff, and so acted quickly and decisively in replacing them !

3 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

Or an alternative take, they hired people who had a good reputation but who turned out to be the wrong stuff, and so acted quickly and decisively in replacing them !

I suspect it's a case of roles growing and changing in the reality of day-to-day operations as opposed to what looked good on paper at the outset.  Winstanley's and Stewart's roles have obviously grown. They led the manager search, normally the province of the TD. Three people doing essentially the same job is pointless and expensive. Exit Vivell. Sensible decision making for me, Clive.

I think perspective is needed on all these issues, the purchase of the club and initial structure was done in a ridiculously short time scale, something that would usually be several months of planning was threw into place in a few weeks to cover people leaving etc.

That didn't go well, and I'm actually impressed on how quickly they have seen the problems and acted to get them sorted.

Obviously this goes against certain "fans" agenda that they're a bunch of yank idiots who have no idea what theyre doing blah blah blah yakkity smakkity...

Edited by dkw

17 minutes ago, dkw said:

I think perspective is needed on all these issues, the purchase of the club and initial structure was done in a ridiculously short time scale, something that would usually be several months of planning was threw into place in a few weeks to cover people leaving etc.

That didn't go well, and I'm actually impressed on how quickly they have seen the problems and acted to get them sorted.

Obviously this goes against certain "fans" agenda that they're a bunch of yank idiots who have no idea what theyre doing blah blah blah yakkity smakkity...

Whilst I have questioned what his actual job description entailed, I understood that part of his appeal, coming from RB Leipzig, was to help implement a multi club model. Therefore I couldn't work out how Vivell, Winstanley and Stewart would be encroaching.

With one failed attempt at a club purchase (I forget who) then getting Strasbourg and apparently with a couple of other irons in the fire wasn't this guy doing what he was supposed to do?

2 hours ago, dermott said:

I suspect it's a case of roles growing and changing in the reality of day-to-day operations as opposed to what looked good on paper at the outset.  Winstanley's and Stewart's roles have obviously grown. They led the manager search, normally the province of the TD. Three people doing essentially the same job is pointless and expensive. Exit Vivell. Sensible decision making for me, Clive.

Yah... they were the ones who worked to get Pooch in place and will continue to work with him so Vivell's redundant.

2 hours ago, WhiteWall said:

Whilst I have questioned what his actual job description entailed, I understood that part of his appeal, coming from RB Leipzig, was to help implement a multi club model. Therefore I couldn't work out how Vivell, Winstanley and Stewart would be encroaching.

With one failed attempt at a club purchase (I forget who) then getting Strasbourg and apparently with a couple of other irons in the fire wasn't this guy doing what he was supposed to do?

His job was Technical Director which involves much more than implementing a multi-club model. Traditionally it involves overall club vision, strategy and recruiting amongst other things. Winstanley and Stewart have effectively become joint TDs. He became redundant. 

3 hours ago, Sexyfootball said:

Or an alternative take, they hired people who had a good reputation but who turned out to be the wrong stuff, and so acted quickly and decisively in replacing them !

Of course, always good with a positive take. I’m not impressed with newly hires being redundant within a year though.

However, the last 18 months has been incredibly chaotic for everyone so I guess some of these things are bound to happen

58 minutes ago, AndyDowsleftflank said:

Of course, always good with a positive take. I’m not impressed with newly hires being redundant within a year though.

However, the last 18 months has been incredibly chaotic for everyone so I guess some of these things are bound to happen

Pretty standard during a corporate restructure to have a couple of “losers” as things settle down 

2 hours ago, Blueboys said:

Pretty standard during a corporate restructure to have a couple of “losers” as things settle down 

True. My dog and cat put their differences aside to outvote and hence attempt to oust me. Only that I have the key to the food cupboard, now on a chain around my neck, seems me clinging on by my fingernails.

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