>>Think we all need to remember all of our players are pretty young

So are everybody else's though

You noticed

Edited February 3Feb 3 by Valerie

Estevao booked for a tackle on Timber, meanwhile Timber escaped assaulting Cucurella without so much as a card

It was good to get him back on the pitch yesterday - not that Rosenior had many other options. I also noticed Garnacho actually tracking back and intercepting the ball in our box.

I wasn't sure if this was possible but I actually think Garanacho has got even worse!

Played with zero confidence today. Not good. He is frustrating and needs to improve, but we need more belief from him if we're to get anything out of the left side for the remainder of the season.

9 hours ago, PhilH930 said:

Played with zero confidence today. Not good. He is frustrating and needs to improve, but we need more belief from him if we're to get anything out of the left side for the remainder of the season.

What we need is a transfer fee for him! God knows where from though. I csnt envisage a single club in the Premier league being interested in him as a permanent move. At best we might get him out on loan which will just delay the issue a bit.

He really has no redeeming features as a footballer. Average talent, poor attitude, low effort and fragile confidence. Blatantly clear when he was at United. Why anyone thought he would be any better witb us is mind boggling.

People call him a donkey but if he was one he would be glue in a primary school by now

22 hours ago, loz said:

What we need is a transfer fee for him! God knows where from though. I csnt envisage a single club in the Premier league being interested in him as a permanent move. At best we might get him out on loan which will just delay the issue a bit.

He really has no redeeming features as a footballer. Average talent, poor attitude, low effort and fragile confidence. Blatantly clear when he was at United. Why anyone thought he would be any better witb us is mind boggling.

People call him a donkey but if he was one he would be glue in a primary school by now

But this is kinda normal for young player, especially attackers. Garnacho isn't the 1st and won't be the last. We have gittens, Mudryk, madueke, jackson, Delap, etc. All attackers, all have different problems.

It is simply hard to avoid this if you are targeting young players

Edited February 9Feb 9 by Bob stark

Garnacho signed for a reported fee of £40m. 6 months later he is barely worth £10m. By the end of the season we won't be able to give him away.

46 minutes ago, TheCeleryKing said:

Garnacho signed for a reported fee of £40m. 6 months later he is barely worth £10m. By the end of the season we won't be able to give him away.

He is under contract until 2032 so he may even get to keep the bench warm under 5-10 managers.

9 hours ago, forbzy said:

He is under contract until 2032 so he may even get to keep the bench warm under 5-10 managers.

We gave Man Utd forty 40 million quid for a player they had bought for 420,000 and a player they were clearly unhappy with. EEK

It comes as no surprise that Garnacho's dad works in sports marketing.

Edited February 12Feb 12 by TheCeleryKing

11 minutes ago, TheCeleryKing said:

We gave Man Utd forty 40 million quid for a player they had bought for 420,000 and a player they were clearly unhappy with. EEK

It comes as no surprise that Garnacho's dad works in sports marketing.

Breaking news: players value increases

10 hours ago, forbzy said:

He is under contract until 2032 so he may even get to keep the bench warm under 5-10 managers.

He definitely thinks highly of himself and he still has aspirations to be a national team regular. Doubt he'll just stay here to be the occasional rotation option.

Italy at a loss or Atletico coming to our rescue to bring him home are the only options in my opinion.

The way I look at it, we were paying Sterling £325k per week to be total sh*te so if we are paying Garnacho far less to be even more sh*te, that has to be good business. Right?

56 minutes ago, GarnachoCheese said:

Breaking news: players value increases

lol. Ever you thought about becoming a Sporting director? You have a natural predisposition for a role like that. Stay on message: "players value increases". What could possibly go wrong with that approach?

You'd hope with injury to Gittens, Garnacho would cement his place in the side over the rest of the season and go on to become a certain starter.

Funny it happens after we loan out George.

Lets see what the Argentine boy wonder can produce.

Surely got to start against Hull, try and get some sort of confidence back. How long is Gittens out?

Assuming Quenda joins the first team in the summer, then Garnacho and Gittens will really need to shine between now and the end of the season. Otherwise, most likely they are looking at joining the loan army next season.

6 hours ago, TheCeleryKing said:

lol. Ever you thought about becoming a Sporting director? You have a natural predisposition for a role like that. Stay on message: "players value increases". What could possibly go wrong with that approach?

We gave Wolves 60 million quid for a player they had bought for 17m and a player they were clearly unhappy with. EEK

It comes as no surprise that Neto’s agent works is Jorge Mendes and no longer gets played now Maresca (also Mendes’ agent) is gone.

9 hours ago, GarnachoCheese said:

Breaking news: players value increases

So, how much has the value of Garnacho increased since we bought him?

12 hours ago, bluelightening said:

You'd hope with injury to Gittens, Garnacho would cement his place in the side over the rest of the season and go on to become a certain starter.

Funny it happens after we loan out George.

Lets see what the Argentine boy wonder can produce.

I think the manager has seen enough; it will either be Enzo or Neto starting at LW. Would be surprised if he starts any PL game between now and the end of the season with the fixtures we have coming up. Pretty damning when you think about it.

2 hours ago, markpitts said:

I think the manager has seen enough; it will either be Enzo or Neto starting at LW. Would be surprised if he starts any PL game between now and the end of the season with the fixtures we have coming up. Pretty damning when you think about it.

We still have a lot of games to play. You cannot play estevao all the time and you don't want to risk it with Palmer.

10 hours ago, GarnachoCheese said:

We gave Wolves 60 million quid for a player they had bought for 17m and a player they were clearly unhappy with. EEK

It comes as no surprise that Neto’s agent works is Jorge Mendes and no longer gets played now Maresca (also Mendes’ agent) is gone.

Not true, once again. He was on the bench against Leeds as part of rotation as he played 90 mins against Wolves whilst Estevao was benched. He had a knock against Arsenal so did not feature in the squad. West Ham came off the bench due to Gittens injury. If you think Neto is not going to start more games, then you are wrong. Your favourite player Garnacho, it seems Rosenior has lost faith in him. Unused against Leeds whilst chasing a goal.

38 minutes ago, Bob stark said:

We still have a lot of games to play. You cannot play estevao all the time and you don't want to risk it with Palmer.

I wouldn’t start him though; I still say he is some one you bring on in the 75th min when you are throwing the kitchen sink at the opponent, and the game is in transition. We are in Feb and he has 1 goal and 3 assists in the league, and he has started 12 league games. That is a very poor return

8 hours ago, TheCeleryKing said:

So, how much has the value of Garnacho increased since we bought him?

Value depends on the market and what people are willing to pay, that's basic economics.

If you want a rudimentary number, then 5m according to Transfermarkt:

49 minutes ago, STATS said:

Not true, once again. He was on the bench against Leeds as part of rotation as he played 90 mins against Wolves whilst Estevao was benched. He had a knock against Arsenal so did not feature in the squad. West Ham came off the bench due to Gittens injury. If you think Neto is not going to start more games, then you are wrong. Your favourite player Garnacho, it seems Rosenior has lost faith in him. Unused against Leeds whilst chasing a goal.

Notice how you stayed silent when the exact same message was used to attack Garnacho, yet here you are to defend your favourite again. You do realise me calling out the hypocrisy of posters on here doesn't make Garnacho my favourite? It would take you 10 seconds to see the multiple posts i've made saying he hasn't been good enough. Unlike you who jumps straight to the defence to white knight for the egotistical primadonna Neto at every chance.

Lets not panic though, its widely reported that Neto will be sold in summer so all this will be over soon.

Edited February 13Feb 13 by GarnachoCheese