1 hour ago, nonotnowjim said:

Pre tax. The peasant only actually takes home £15k per week.... for watching Chelsea players train and play football...

Oh well, pre-tax, that's alright then 😄

2 hours ago, nonotnowjim said:

Pre tax. The peasant only actually takes home £15k per week.... for watching Chelsea players train and play football...

He's a peasant ?? .

2 hours ago, The Rising Sun said:

He's a peasant ?? .

Always struggle with the line between a typo and irony....

1 hour ago, nonotnowjim said:

Always struggle with the line between a typo and irony....

Have to admit, that's funny ! 😂

54 minutes ago, The Rising Sun said:

Have to admit, that's funny ! 😂

1 out of 15,000 attempts aint bad - about the same conversion rate as Wacko....

52 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said:

1 out of 15,000 attempts aint bad - about the same conversion rate as Wacko....

I meant to add "it's funny but completely unacceptable" 😂

7 hours ago, nonotnowjim said:

Pre tax. The peasant only actually takes home £15k per week.... for watching Chelsea players train and play football...

I reckon we've got more players on our books doing that than any other club !

Rather than create a new sales tracker thread I figured i'd just raise this one from the dead (like a good necromancer would)

Departures so far this window according to transfermarkt:

Players	Club		Transfer sum
Noni Madueke		Arsenal	€56.00m
João Félix		Al-Nassr	€30.00m
Djordje Petrovic		Bournemouth	€28.90m
Lesley Ugochukwu		Burnley	€28.70m
Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall		Everton	€28.65m
Armando Broja		Burnley	€23.00m
Mathis Amougou		R. Strasbourg	€14.50m
Bashir Humphreys		Burnley	€14.00m
Kepa Arrizabalaga		Arsenal	€5.80m
Marcus Bettinelli		Man City	€2.40m
Lucas Bergström		RCD Mallorca	free transfer
Mike Penders		R. Strasbourg	loan transfer
Kendry Páez		R. Strasbourg	loan transfer
Mamadou Sarr		R. Strasbourg	loan transfer
Marc Guiu		Sunderland	loan transfer
€231.95m

Asking Grok again what transfer fees we should expect for the rest of our sales returned:

Player

Estimated Transfer Fee (millions of euros)

Renato Veiga 25 million euro

Axel Disasi 22 million euro

Ben Chilwell 15 million euro

Alfie Gilchrist 8 million euro

Carney Chukwuemeka 18 million euro

Tyrique George 10 million euro

Nicolas Jackson 50 million euro

Christopher Nkunku 35 million euro

David Datro Fofana 6 million euro

which adds up to (my quick calculation) 189 million euro

Note that Grok has historically tended to underestimate the value of our other sales and I may be overestimating what we can get for Chilwell and Stirling (who will be difficult to move on) (see https://www.theshedend.com/topic/36907-qazs-chelsea-musings/page/2/#findComment-2120814 for details)

On 12/07/2025 at 10:43, Qaz said:

Sorry I asked it to simplify and reformat and forgot to go back and repost it

Player Name

Weekly Wage (£)

Notes

Djordje Petrovic

50,000

Chelsea FC

Kepa Arrizabalaga

75,000

Transferred to Arsenal in July 2025

Renato Veiga

25,000

Chelsea FC

Axel Disasi

80,000

Chelsea FC

Benoît Badiashile

90,000

Chelsea FC

Ben Chilwell

200,000

Chelsea FC

Caleb Wiley

12,000

Chelsea FC, possibly on a youth contract

Alfie Gilchrist

10,000

Chelsea FC, possibly on a youth contract

Lesley Ugochukwu

45,000

Chelsea FC

Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall

80,000

Chelsea FC

Christopher Nkunku

195,000

Chelsea FC

Mykhaylo Mudryk

100,000

Chelsea FC

Raheem Sterling

325,000

Chelsea FC

João Félix

130,000

Chelsea FC

Armando Broja

40,000

Chelsea FC

David Datro Fofana

30,000

Chelsea FC

To be fair Badiashile, Dewsbury-Hall, Nkunku, and Mudryk were all part of last seasons squad and some of the bigger earners. While you might argue they are not worth the money, they wasn't paid for nothing.

With the loanees do we know how much of the wages were covered by the clubs loaning them and the cost of their loan fee? Assuming not much in the case of Sterling and Chilwell, but some of the others could have been fully covered and with a loan fee on top could actually mean we made profit for the year!

I know Charney Chukwuemekas wages were supposedly paid in full by Dortmund on top of a small loan fee.

Absurd this is a Chelsea problem.

Seems we overplayed our hands and no one else is moving on permanent deals. It’s the Tyrique George’s that will be sold to any one waving cash I feel for. In his case there are clubs like Villa with no wingers where he could be loaned to and get solid minutes with better thinking, but we are too focused on the now.

We now have the bomb squad from last season who will all get loaned again, coupled with the ones from this season. Next season’s preseason should be fun. I don’t know why the club thinks anyone will pay £20m for Sterling, just let him go for free and write off the loses. The club also seem to think because Newcastle were willing to pay €80m for Sesko, the same fee should apply to Jackson. Well the first one wasn’t for sale, and Leipzig can name their price. In Jackson’s case, he will be back next season joining the new improved and bulked up bomb squad. There is zero incentive for him to leave with a £100k/w+ contract with 6yrs to run.

57 minutes ago, markpitts said:

Seems we overplayed our hands and no one else is moving on permanent deals. It’s the Tyrique George’s that will be sold to any one waving cash I feel for. In his case there are clubs like Villa with no wingers where he could be loaned to and get solid minutes with better thinking, but we are too focused on the now.

We now have the bomb squad from last season who will all get loaned again, coupled with the ones from this season. Next season’s preseason should be fun. I don’t know why the club thinks anyone will pay £20m for Sterling, just let him go for free and write off the loses. The club also seem to think because Newcastle were willing to pay €80m for Sesko, the same fee should apply to Jackson. Well the first one wasn’t for sale, and Leipzig can name their price. In Jackson’s case, he will be back next season joining the new improved and bulked up bomb squad. There is zero incentive for him to leave with a £100k/w+ contract with 6yrs to run.

Badly managed, the club is now sitting with a whole lot of players on high wages that nobody wants.

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On 07/07/2025 at 14:05, Blue Ram said:

Also seem to remember the name Dujuan Richards another young forward that we signed some time ago, is he still with us?

Just back now from a season out with an ACL. Has featured and scored for the u21. He could end up being our third choice striker if Jackson is sold and if he is back to the standard as he was

On 07/07/2025 at 15:05, Qaz said:

I've literally never heard of him

I know of Kellyman and Mheuka but not him

At the time they were blowing smoke up Washington's arse about how generational a talent he is, "whisper" Richards was banging in the goals and keeping him out. Then he suffered the ACL and McNeiily stepped up in his place.

54 minutes ago, WhiteWall said:

At the time they were blowing smoke up Washington's arse about how generational a talent he is, "whisper" Richards was banging in the goals and keeping him out. Then he suffered the ACL and McNeiily stepped up in his place.

Just remembered they loaned him back to Santos in Feb after 18mths & after paying €20m. He has started 5 league games and scored 1 goal, but hey he gets to share a locker room with his idol Neymar.

This is groundbreaking news. How could we have pieced this together without the assistance of muppets like this stating what has been fking obvious from the get go.

Fck me, everyone lauds this Ornstein fella as some great transfer guru. How do i get into this as a job. These blokes do absolutely fck all for a living. Don't these clowns have the audacity to call themselves journalists? Haha

Looking at who is left hanging around :

Alfie Gilchrist - surely some club will come in for him on a permanent deal ?

Chilwell - no-one is going to buy him. Loans until his contract expires with us continuing to pick up a minimum of half his wages

Sterling - ditto. Think we would have to pay him at least £20m to leave.

Disasi - I think we can find someone to buy him permanently if we aren't too greedy. Breaking even on his current book value should be possible.

D.Fofana - ditto

Kellyman ... LOL. What on earth is happening with this guy ? He no longer shows in the first team section on the web site at any rate !

Then we have the first team squad players that are "available"

Nkunku - no club seems to be prepared to take the plunge on him. Probably three reasons (1) concern over the impact his injury has had on his performance level (2) High wages (3) we are probably asking for too high a fee

Jackson - ditto, but probably two factors (1) we are asking for too high a fee (2) too much noise on social media and forums about his weak points likely putting teams off. I think he will go as clubs get desperate at as the window runs down. and we get desperate to sell for UEFA PSR purposes.

George - I think we can loan or sell him. Has shown sufficient promise for some club to take a punt.

Finally, what the f**k is going on with Mudryk LOL. Unbelievable that it is taking so long for the details of his ban to be decided, or made public.

1 minute ago, Sexyfootball said:

Looking at who is left hanging around :

Alfie Gilchrist - surely some club will come in for him on a permanent deal ?

Chilwell - no-one is going to buy him. Loans until his contract expires with us continuing to pick up a minimum of half his wages

Sterling - ditto. Think we would have to pay him at least £20m to leave.

Disasi - I think we can find someone to buy him permanently if we aren't too greedy. Breaking even on his current book value should be possible.

D.Fofana - ditto

Kellyman ... LOL. What on earth is happening with this guy ? He no longer shows in the first team section on the web site at any rate !

Then we have the first team squad players that are "available"

Nkunku - no club seems to be prepared to take the plunge on him. Probably three reasons (1) concern over the impact his injury has had on his performance level (2) High wages (3) we are probably asking for too high a fee

Jackson - ditto, but probably two factors (1) we are asking for too high a fee (2) too much noise on social media and forums about his weak points likely putting teams off. I think he will go as clubs get desperate at as the window runs down. and we get desperate to sell for UEFA PSR purposes.

George - I think we can loan or sell him. Has shown sufficient promise for some club to take a punt.

Finally, what the f**k is going on with Mudryk LOL. Unbelievable that it is taking so long for the details of his ban to be decided, or made public.

I think Gilchrist (Championship) George (Serie A), Disaster (Bournemouth), Fofana (Lower Prem/Turkey) & Nkunku (Bundesliga) all go on permanents before the end of the window.

I’d suggest Jackson (Bayern), Sterling (Palace/WHU) & Chilwell (Cov) all find suitable loans but with us likely picking up a LARGE portion of the wages for the former 2.

What is a Kellyman?

1 minute ago, The Boehly Babes said:

What is a Kellyman?

Probably to be found in the Urban dictionary as some sort of slang terminology to do with money laundering !

12 hours ago, Sexyfootball said:

Finally, what the f**k is going on with Mudryk LOL. Unbelievable that it is taking so long for the details of his ban to be decided, or made public.

Pure speculation here, but I think the club has received advice to proceed slowly and quietly.

Changes to FIFAs practice after it lost the Diarra case mean that transfer fees will likely no longer be considered as part of the player's value by CAS, when calculating compensation. This would limit the absolute maximum value of any compensation claim to the value of Mudryk's wages, and a court is likely to reduce that significantly.

Also, FIFA can no longer sanction clubs who acquire a player who broke their contract, meaning we couldn't put a caveat on Mudryk like we did with Juventus and Livorno over Mutu. It means Mudryk would be free to play for other clubs while we spend half a decade in court chasing a paltry sum.

23 hours ago, WhiteWall said:

This is groundbreaking news. How could we have pieced this together without the assistance of muppets like this stating what has been fking obvious from the get go.

Fck me, everyone lauds this Ornstein fella as some great transfer guru. How do i get into this as a job. These blokes do absolutely fck all for a living. Don't these clowns have the audacity to call themselves journalists? Haha

It amazes me how many fools hang on their every word, like they have some kind of amazing insight when the vast majority are just either parroting something someone else has written, throwing any old sh*te out to see if it sticks or writing completely beige nothingness like that.

"Ive heard this thing might happen, but if it doesnt happen thats because it wont happen, or because it didnt happen this time, it still might happen next time. Or it might not."

2 hours ago, dkw said:

It amazes me how many fools hang on their every word, like they have some kind of amazing insight when the vast majority are just either parroting something someone else has written, throwing any old sh*te out to see if it sticks or writing completely beige nothingness like that.

"Ive heard this thing might happen, but if it doesnt happen thats because it wont happen, or because it didnt happen this time, it still might happen next time. Or it might not."

Agree, total waffle.

In terms of these people in the know on transfers I find it weird how people talk about them/react to them. Fabrizio Romano and Ornstein who are the most reputable insight people...

First of all it is amazing to me they would know fine details of these deals weeks before. That means agents and representatives leak information of deals because they gain something of it. Not sure what. I would believe deals like these should be heavily protected by NDA's and other protective mechanisms. In the real world way smaller investments are protected by dealing parties. I guess this is another wild west aspect of European football.

I enjoy reading rumours as the next guy but it still baffles me the whole ordeal.

Others talk about them as some sort of oracles which is idiotic as well.

But still why get so angry about them. For some reason it is their livelihood. Tells more about the human race if anything I guess.

44 minutes ago, evissy said:

In terms of these people in the know on transfers I find it weird how people talk about them/react to them. Fabrizio Romano and Ornstein who are the most reputable insight people...

First of all it is amazing to me they would know fine details of these deals weeks before. That means agents and representatives leak information of deals because they gain something of it. Not sure what. I would believe deals like these should be heavily protected by NDA's and other protective mechanisms. In the real world way smaller investments are protected by dealing parties. I guess this is another wild west aspect of European football.

I enjoy reading rumours as the next guy but it still baffles me the whole ordeal.

Others talk about them as some sort of oracles which is idiotic as well.

But still why get so angry about them. For some reason it is their livelihood. Tells more about the human race if anything I guess.

So they make all their money by getting things wrong? I grew up wit hthe national enquirer being the conspiracy theory rag of choice. Now its X, social media and its everywhere, mores the point, it doesnt even matter if the "content" is right, its literally about traffic.

Its called engagement farming and it is debilitaing on most areas of society where it is published.

Chilwell isnt going anywhere, being reintegrated back into the squad apparently...