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Has anybody else noticed how the Club has just about collapsed since Ray Wilkins rejoined?

This Guy's record is nothing short of a scandal. Wherever he goes, almost guarantees relegation !!! Lets hope we get rid of him (again) before he works his magic on us.

Seriously though, he has been a f**king disaster at EVERY club at which he has coached. I would love to see his stats (or perhaps I wouldn't)

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It makes no sense that it would, but this is actually the case - Wilkins brought decay to the club. I don't think he does anything concerning the training process and I firmly believe he is just a PR man in front of the fans, but he must be some sort of a black sheep, causing misery wherever he goes.

Or maybe Stevie Clarke did much more that I had thought...

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It makes no sense that it would, but this is actually the case - Wilkins brought decay to the club. I don't think he does anything concerning the training process and I firmly believe he is just a PR man in front of the fans, but he must be some sort of a black sheep, causing misery wherever he goes.

Or maybe Stevie Clarke did much more that I had thought...

Which brings me to my idea of who our next manager should be. Zola, along with Clarkey. Not original among the TSH faithful, I know, but I can't think of anyone else who would bring back the hunger and desire we need to be at the top again.

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Steve Clarke moves across town. Our form drops and the Pikey's pick up no end.

Draw your own conclusions.

Not only that, but their defending specifically has picked up immeasurably. A side that looked an early pick for relegation has lost Ashton and Bellamy as the year has gone on they have gotten stronger, rather than weaker.

Anyone who saw their draw at the Emirates could see their composure and defensive organization. In addition to holding them out for 90 minutes, they never looked really threatened or bothered.

You would think even a chimp could easily see this correlation, that Wilkins's arrival has been the equivalent of a black cat breaking 10 mirrors, and that our defensive organization has come apart at the seams, but then again we have Peter Kenyon making all the big decisions at this club.

Clarkie, Brendan Rodgers, bring in anyone

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One thing that has bothered me for a while is the decision to bring in Wilkins. Who made it? I can't believe it was Scolari as I very much doubt he knew him. So the decision was probably made one of 2 ways:

1) Scolari requested an English coach and we picked Wikins

2) When Clarke left Scolari was told that we had decided on Wilkins.

Either way it is unlikely Scolari was involved much in the decision. Surely he must be aware of the alarming slide since Wilkins joined so why doesn't he request a better assistant? Don't most managers bring in their own assistants? It surprises me that Scolari doesn't have one. Not saying it wuld make a lot of difference as Scolari himself looks like a fish out of water. Couldn't hurt to try a different assistant at this point though.

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One thing that has bothered me for a while is the decision to bring in Wilkins. Who made it? I can't believe it was Scolari as I very much doubt he knew him. So the decision was probably made one of 2 ways:

1) Scolari requested an English coach and we picked Wikins

2) When Clarke left Scolari was told that we had decided on Wilkins.

Either way it is unlikely Scolari was involved much in the decision. Surely he must be aware of the alarming slide since Wilkins joined so why doesn't he request a better assistant? Don't most managers bring in their own assistants? It surprises me that Scolari doesn't have one. Not saying it wuld make a lot of difference as Scolari himself looks like a fish out of water. Couldn't hurt to try a different assistant at this point though.

To be fair, it was widely reported that Scolari himself alienated Clarke by reducing his authority from number two in the coaching hierarchy to the role currently played by Ray Wilkins - a PR man to deal with public. I wasn't happy with Steve leaving us after the season started but there must have been a serious reason behind it.

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The only way we'd ever get Clarke back is to offer him the managers job, something that would be the smartest move we could do. As for Wilkins, it's sad. He was a hero of mine. Captained our side at 18, played for us without wages when we were broke, first Chelsea international for years. He was Chelsea legend; no more. More a Chelsea joke now.

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To be fair, it was widely reported that Scolari himself alienated Clarke by reducing his authority from number two in the coaching hierarchy to the role currently played by Ray Wilkins - a PR man to deal with public. I wasn't happy with Steve leaving us after the season started but there must have been a serious reason behind it.

That makes sense. Thanks for reminding me. So in other words Scolari is arrogant enough to think he can handle all the coaching on his own as long as there is somebody English to make excuses to the press afterwards.

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The only way we'd ever get Clarke back is to offer him the managers job, something that would be the smartest move we could do. As for Wilkins, it's sad. He was a hero of mine. Captained our side at 18, played for us without wages when we were broke, first Chelsea international for years. He was Chelsea legend; no more. More a Chelsea joke now.

I do think we should differentiate between Wilkins the player and Wilkins the coach. He was a great player and we should never forget that. As a coach he is dreadful and always has been however should we really blame him? He should never have been given the job in the first place, let alone brought back - some of the decisions made in our 'boardroom' are baffling.

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I'm sure most of us question just what Wilkins brings to the coaching setup but he deserves better than the abuse he is getting from some supporters right now. The bloke has a major part of Chelsea history on his CV and he doesnt deserve being thrust into the role of the fall guy.

Scolari is in charge and needs to be accountable and needs to face the tv cameras when things don't go well - not running away and leaving it to someone else.

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I'm sure most of us question just what Wilkins brings to the coaching setup but he deserves better than the abuse he is getting from some supporters right now. The bloke has a major part of Chelsea history on his CV and he doesnt deserve being thrust into the role of the fall guy.

Scolari is in charge and needs to be accountable and needs to face the tv cameras when things don't go well - not running away and leaving it to someone else.

I agree BJD.

Losing Clarke was a massive blow, but the blame cannot be held with Wilkins. Clarke was let go because he was doing nothing more than putting the cones out and his role was heavily reduced compared to what he did under Jose and Grant.

There is no way the club have let Clarke go because he wasn't doing enough, and suddenly let Wilkins start taking training sessions all on his own. I think we have to start looking at the 'Tached two'

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wilkins bland comments afterwards don't help...he's better off in a sky sports studio rather than near the chelsea squad...he motivates me as much as a florent malouda performance

::clap2:: Painfully true. He sounds like a junior team coach or a father of some player and not a highly ranked employee in one of the worlds biggest clubs.

I think Kenyon just needed someone to take the attention away from his big bald head.

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Has anybody else noticed how the Club has just about collapsed since Ray Wilkins rejoined?

This Guy's record is nothing short of a scandal. Wherever he goes, almost guarantees relegation !!! Lets hope we get rid of him (again) before he works his magic on us.

Seriously though, he has been a f**king disaster at EVERY club at which he has coached. I would love to see his stats (or perhaps I wouldn't)

Good point man my thoughts also hes a f**king manc anyway he dont care about chels hes just a yes man the club got him in cause they thought the fans would love it just goes to show once again how cluless the monkfish head kenyon really is sooner he f**ks back 2 sky sports the betr. where becoming a laughing stock. i dont care if he was the youngest cfc captain r a youth product hes cluless the money hes on a week 4 what 2 say yes the whole time i ll have sum of that sound easy does nt it ray. yes

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I do think we should differentiate between Wilkins the player and Wilkins the coach. He was a great player and we should never forget that. As a coach he is dreadful and always has been however should we really blame him? He should never have been given the job in the first place, let alone brought back - some of the decisions made in our 'boardroom' are baffling.

I agree totally. Wilkins was a auperb player for Chelsea, and would have become a legend had he stayed longer. Unfortunately, the club sold him because we were skint, not his fault. However, as a coach he's utter sh*te and should never have been allowed back at the club.

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I agree totally. Wilkins was a auperb player for Chelsea, and would have become a legend had he stayed longer. Unfortunately, the club sold him because we were skint, not his fault. However, as a coach he's utter sh*te and should never have been allowed back at the club.

My memory from all those years ago is a bit hazy, but my recollection is that Butch was delighted to go to Manure at the time. Also, when he later left Manure he declined an opportunity to return, so I just don't see him as a "Chelsea man" at all.

Loved him when he played for us as a youngster, but he's no longer one of us.

Also, as you say, he's a sh*te coach and has got to go....

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My memory from all those years ago is a bit hazy, but my recollection is that Butch was delighted to go to Manure at the time. Also, when he later left Manure he declined an opportunity to return, so I just don't see him as a "Chelsea man" at all.

Loved him when he played for us as a youngster, but he's no longer one of us.

Also, as you say, he's a sh*te coach and has got to go....

So we came in for him at the same time as AC Milan? And he went to Milan?

Did we really have £1.5m to spend on him in 1984?

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So we came in for him at the same time as AC Milan? And he went to Milan?

Did we really have £1.5m to spend on him in 1984?

I actually meant when he left Milan. He wanted to return to London and I remember being excited (well there wasn't much to get excited about at Chelsea at that time) that he may return to Chelsea, but he ended up at QPR ffs.

Maybe we didn't bid for him I don't know, but he didn't show any interest in coming back to Chelsea.

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