Are Liverpool our 'rivals'?

[Chelsea1905]

This really irritates me this does. I can't understand how or why some people class Liverpool as our rivals. Yes, I don't like them as a club and their supporters (some) are vile and horrible but apart from the Louis Garcia no goal there never has really been any rivalry between the two clubs. Apart from a few incidences back in the day but that happen with most clubs and us. I can't see how people can 'hate' the Scousers more than Tot*enh*m, West Ham, Millwall, Arsenal and Leeds etc. Especially the y*ds and Leeds where our rivalry dates back a while with the clubs. I know for sure that Liverpool wouldn't class us as their rivals. Their hatred for United and Everton is massive than it is towards us.

[Benji]

Until they win the Premier League then I won't class them as our rivals.

Just bin dippers for now and hopefully always.

[stevo]

Vile c**ts,not our rivals though, they are a mid table team going nowhere.

[dkw]

Vile c**ts,not our rivals though, they are a mid table team going nowhere.

Hopefully they are going somewhere, down.

[Teritus]

Never thought of them as major rivals like Arsenal for example. Though perhaps since our success in recent years we've always had close games with Liverpool, so maybe some thought of it as a 'rivalry'.

[BumsteadCFC]

Yes, I definitely consider them rivals to us, Dean Saunders is as good a reason as any. The 3 Cup semi losses in the mid 00s (CL 05, FA 06, CL 07) were a blot on the Special One's copybook, we knocked em out of the Cup twice in late 70s/early 80s and again in 97.

We hate them, they hate us, what more would there need to be for us to have a rivalry?

Edited June 8, 2012 by BumsteadCFC

[Eight Times]

It frustrates me how obsessed we've become with them on here.

We talk about how irrelevant they are, yet we are constantly talking about them.

[Tim W]

Shouldn't this have been started under Jokes

[BumsteadCFC]

Anyway, my personal classification of rivals:

1. Spurs (always number 1)

(daylight)

2. Liverpool

3. Utd

(daylight)

4. Arse

Only reason Arse are tolerable in any way is that they hate and are hated by Spurs, enemy of my enemy is my friend and all that.

Leeds, West Ham and Millwall are traditional rivals but honestly we aint played either Leeds or Wall in about a decade and West Ham just aint on the same level as us football wise. I can't summon up 10% of the hate I have for Spurs towards West Ham.

Not all Chelsea will agree, but thats my tuppence worth on it.

[evissy]

I hate them. All the recent CL matches and Cup matches deepen the hate. I also hate the city, the Beatles and the fact the ooze monkey-type behavior and hubcap-nicking class.

[Tommy26]

I hate them. All the recent CL matches and Cup matches deepen the hate. I also hate the city, the Beatles and the fact the ooze monkey-type behavior and hubcap-nicking class.

Leave the Beatles out of this !

they are most defiantly are rivals, not our biggest but when u hate another teams fans and they hate you, thats a rivalry, they are jealous. Simple as that

[evissy]

Leave the Beatles out of this !

they are most defiantly are rivals, not our biggest but when u hate another teams fans and they hate you, thats a rivalry, they are jealous. Simple as that

I hate them too. Sorry. Rolling Stones every time over the two. They're cool!

[blizeH]

It frustrates me how obsessed we've become with them on here.

We talk about how irrelevant they are, yet we are constantly talking about them.

For me it's a bit like QPR - they are irrelevant, but it's still funny to laugh at their misfortune.

[Snedger]

Well as the definition of rival is something like

A person or thing competing with another for the same objective or for superiority in the same field of activity.

I'd say that they are our rivals. One of 5 or 6 currently but certainly not our closest rival. However, the rivalry exists only in domestic competition. In Europe they are not our rivals.

I think purely hating something is different to rivalry. So Liverpool are a rival that I hate, whereas QPR are just a club that I hate.

I agree with 7times that we do seem to have become a bit obsessed with them but I reckon that is a result of the amount of no history crap they've thrown at us in the last few years. It's as this they became obsessed with us first.

Edited June 8, 2012 by Snedger

[Elliott]

The champions league matches of our Jose era strengthed ill feelings towards each other, but I wouldn't class them as rivals.

Arsenal, United, & Spurs for me.

In recent years, I can only remember them finishing above us once ('09 when they nearly won the league? - correct me if i'm wrong).

This season, I don't think they'll be anywhere near us.

[EmeraldBlue]

Funny how time changes things - there would have been a time when we would have drooled at being at the same level as Liverpool, but that's ancient history (that word!) now. I see them still as rivals and am happy for it to be so. We need rivals for God's sake! Maybe Leeds willl make a return some day - that's one I'll be up for!

On a related note, I think Liverpool and Arsenal got a bit caught up in a "that's not fair" warp when Abramovich bought Chelsea. Fergie, to be fair, just got on with it - and look who's done better.

Come on the Blues.

[Mike Carefree]

For me the greatest RIVALS are spurs..This is because its oh so much fun to have them so and this will last for the rest of my

days...Secondly would be MAN UTD, purely because they are the best (generally) and to better them is always an achievement..

Edited June 8, 2012 by Mike Carefree

[Mike Carefree]

Then the rest are insignificant or mild irritants

[Guest RFC_CFC]

Liverpool as a challenge are irrelevant because they don’t offer one.

As rivals….nope not in my book. A few years ago then maybe but that was in Europe.

They are a joke of a club who are filled with mediocre players like Downing, Henderson and Carroll who cost an absolute fortune and all they achieved was a penalty carling cup win against a championship team.

f**k Liverpool.

[Eight Times]

I hate them too. Sorry. Rolling Stones every time over the two. They're cool!

Yep, Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd............I've never got The Beatles.

[Englishman]

We can't stand them, and they can't stand us. Beating them is bliss and losing to them is horrid. What else do you need for a rivalry? To me it's up there with Spuds, Leeds, Arsenal and West Ham.

Funnily enough, I don't really see City or United as rivals, even though they're likely to be a bigger threat to us next season than any of the above.

[bluedave]

I'm 31 so not old enough to remember Liverpool's 'glory days'. I would consider our main rivals to be teams like Arsenal and Man Utd, and recently Man City. Tottenham and Liverpool as well but to a much lesser extent (although I dislike them both intensely). Not being from London means the geographical rivalries don't matter much to me.

There are loads of Man Utd/Arsenal fans where I live so those are the teams I care most about beating.

Leeds, Millwall, and West Ham I honestly couldn't give a toss about.

Edited June 8, 2012 by bluedave

[Davey Baby]

Just because a rivalry dates back further doesn't make it neccessarily more intense. Liverpool are far more our rivals than Leeds, though obviously it's a far more recent rivalry, only really starting when Jose was at the helm and the poor little munchkins couldn't handle it. I don't regard Leeds as our rivals, and if we ever play them again no doubt some would try to revive the rivalry but as far as I'm concerned, they're just doing it for rivalry's sake. That era is over. There is no club I hate more than Liverpool and that goes for a lot of Chelsea fans, with obviously Tottenham a close second. If there's one team I want relegated it's Liverpool, etc etc. They may hate Utd more, but I bet there are a fair few of them who hate us more than Everton. They really can't stand us because we represent everything they don't, in short we are urbane, sophisticated, good-looking, witty, and more than anything, we have trophies. Tottenham goes back a long way but it started somewhere, so just because Liverpool started more recently is insignificant, it also started somewhere and for me it started the moment Jose joined us and started winning everything in sight. The response of their supporters was abhorrent, suddenly they took an intense dislike to us and their true colours shone through. I'm sorry, for me, the club I most detest, by a very, very long stretch, is the dippers, and if many Chelsea fans feel the same, that makes it a rivalry in anyone's book.

Edit: If anyone doubts how much they hate us I suggest they walk through Liverpool city centre in a Chelsea shirt ..

Edited June 8, 2012 by Davey Baby

[tremberz90]

I think Liverpool were considered rivals when they were in the so called "big four". When they challenged for the title and when we played them alot in the champions league they were rivals. Now, not so much.

I would call United, City, Arsenal and Tottenham rivals now

[Peckham Blue]

Just because a rivalry dates back further doesn't make it neccessarily more intense. Liverpool are far more our rivals than Leeds, though obviously it's a far more recent rivalry, only really starting when Jose was at the helm and the poor little munchkins couldn't handle it. I don't regard Leeds as our rivals, and if we ever play them again no doubt some would try to revive the rivalry but as far as I'm concerned, they're just doing it for rivalry's sake. That era is over. There is no club I hate more than Liverpool and that goes for a lot of Chelsea fans, with obviously Tottenham a close second. If there's one team I want relegated it's Liverpool, etc etc. They may hate Utd more, but I bet there are a fair few of them who hate us more than Everton. They really can't stand us because we represent everything they don't, in short we are urbane, sophisticated, good-looking, witty, and more than anything, we have trophies. Tottenham goes back a long way but it started somewhere, so just because Liverpool started more recently is insignificant, it also started somewhere and for me it started the moment Jose joined us and started winning everything in sight. The response of their supporters was abhorrent, suddenly they took an intense dislike to us and their true colours shone through. I'm sorry, for me, the club I most detest, by a very, very long stretch, is the dippers, and if many Chelsea fans feel the same, that makes it a rivalry in anyone's book.

Edit: If anyone doubts how much they hate us I suggest they walk through Liverpool city centre in a Chelsea shirt ..

Sorry Davey,

You put your argument across well, but when you've had your heart broken by losing to a team at your first Wembley FA Cup Final and then seen your fellow fans have the sh*t kicked out of them on the pitch by ten onto one on national television and then getting beaten by them and pretty much relegated in the same match then there is no rivalry such as Spurs. Losing to Liverpool in any competition doesn't come close.