Why are we better away?

[aliboy66]

Why are we better away? Let me start I do not like Rafa at Chelsea but he is there until Roman ends his contract.It is no coincidence that our away form is better at the moment then our home all this stuff going on at our home games is  affecting the team. I know Rafa said some things but he was at Liverpool, that was then this is now we need everyone behind the team don't we.I don't give a f**k about Rafa.but I love my team and don't care who's in charge. until some other rich f**k buys Chelsea there is not a lot fans can do other than boycott games  

[BlueBeard]

I don't buy this crap that the fans are to blame for giving stick to El Bloato. I reckon it's more to do with the fact opposition teams come to the Bridge with a plan to shut us down completely, park the bus, and hit us on the break, while when they're at home they have to open up more to attack. Also, El Bloato's tactics (if he has any) are probably different for home games and away games.

[ilovechelseafc]

There is a poisonous atmosphere at Stamford Bridge and the negativity affects the players. Some hide in games because they know the manager will get the blame, so become disinterested and some are fearful in case the fans turn on them. The booing, angry chants etc, it's self defeating and there is no point. I agree with 16 min chant for RDM, although it can seem a bit childish, I agree with Super Frank chant and agree 100% with Mourinho chants and I would love to see pro-Mourinho banners (lots of them) but the negative stuff must stop.

 

It's true that at home teams come to defend more and the pressure is on to break them down, where as away it's easier on the counter attack. But that's always been the case ever since we started winning stuff, that is not new this season. Teams have always done that at The Bridge and we've over come to have a great home record. The difference now is the fans who are creating a terrible atmosphere. This season we have new young players who are not used to playing under such pressure from their own fans.

[chelseablueboy]

It's true that at home teams come to defend more and the pressure is on to break them down, where as away it's easier on the counter attack. But that's always been the case ever since we started winning stuff, that is not new this season. Teams have always done that at The Bridge and we've over come to have a great home record. The difference now is the fans who are creating a terrible atmosphere. This season we have new young players who are not used to playing under such pressure from their own fans.

 Fair point.

Problem is the ONLY recourse the fans have to let the board know we are not happy is vocally at home games.

Double edged sword maybe, but there aren't a lot of options left for those that have a right to make their feelings known.

[stevo]

Bollocks, no way does the crowd affect the players,we lost against Swansea because of sh*t heads crap team selection and the team seemed to be suffering the mother of all new years eve hangovers against QPR.

[Star]

Our support for the team away from home is relentless passion. I despite 'My Torres Ban' very rarely attend Stamford Bridge.

Away is more like the 'old days' and that is my reason for going to games these days.

Plastic homers disgust me, the feeling of away supporters outsinging us on a regular basis must get to our players who openly respect our away followers.

The likes of Didier revved up our home fans, the Anti Benetiz feeling at home is stronger as are the banners.

In short our home support is shocking these days, worse than anytime in our history, even in the 10000 gate days the Shed rivalled the Kop etc

The plastics are only interested in success all the time and are just as much to blame for manager sackings as Roman.

[ilovechelseafc]

 Fair point.

Problem is the ONLY recourse the fans have to let the board know we are not happy is vocally at home games.

Double edged sword maybe, but there aren't a lot of options left for those that have a right to make their feelings known.

I get that, and that's why I say chants in support of RDM, Mourinho, Lampard et al are great but the negative stuff is counter productive.

 

We have young players like Oscar, Mata, Hazard, Moses, Azpi, new to the club and unlikely to have played under such pressure and for a club relentlessly persued by the media before. Fans creating such hostile and poisonous atmosphere's at home are not helping them. Ex players like Shearer and others have said this is what has made our home form go to pot. It's why I also mentioned what must our Spanish players think when they hear 'Fat SPANISH Waiter' chants'? On a previous thread. Don't get me wrong, I'm Benitez OUT, I hope we don't win anything this season and just get top 4 so RA doesn't even think of giving him the job long term. But I think the negative stuff has gone too far now, especially as it's clearly affecting the form at home. And I am against anything that is Xenophobic, which I think bringing his nationality into is.

Edited January 13, 2013 by ilovechelseafc

[geezer]

A lot of teams have parked the bus when they've come to the Bridge over the years however in the past we have usually been able to unlock them. Robben and Duffers used to excel at this, then when they left Didier took up the mantle to shake them up. He's now gone and there has been no target to aim for nor are there any natural wingers to give us width therefore we tend to try and play our way through the middle far too much with little success. Demba Ba now gives us a new option for a target however until the FSW realises this then we will continue to struggle.

Away from home teams are less likely to park the bus therefore a lot more space opens up for the likes of Mata, Hazard and Oscar to excel. And yesterday it was clear that Lamps excelled from having Demba Ba to aim for a la Didier.

[Lofty.]

I think we can still go back to the Fulham game as the best example. Forget Man City at home because with the best or worst will in the world, the interim hadn't had time to get together with the players.

 

Against Fulham, and not only a poor Fulham side, but a depleted Fulham side, we were suddenly playing ultra-defensively. There was little or no attempt to break down Fulham's makeshift defence. We battered Villa because they were so full of false confidence. They thought they could come away with a result, and as we now know, they couldn't have been more wrong. QPR was very similar to the Fulham game. QPR set their none too efficient defence, parking their leaky old bus with the bits missing, but the cautious approach so favoured by the interim had no effective answer.

 

Ok we may have looked the better side, we may arguably have been unlucky, but this was QPR. And there is no excuse whatsoever for losing at home to QPR. Ergo the interim manager is a useless fat lardy-arsed conman.

But we knew that anyway.

[Mike Carefree]

This isnt anything new actually....over the last 40 years we have gone through sporadic form loss at home while being reasonably better away......im sure its because of two things......both have been said......the lacklustre home noise incorporated with the fact away teams know exactly how to play us....I have seen too many times our players slow buildup to attack...Passing well, maybe 6-7 times across field and backwards and gaining practically insignificant ground or space..the oppo feel there is a reluctance by our guys to attack and attack fiercly and get confidence from it......only once we have scored do we come out of our shells generally and go for it....A lot of teams have tough big men.....We have a few skilled but bodily weak players....i love oscar and he does reasonably well but to the oppo he looks like a 14 yr old who you wouldnt fear.....man utd have tough players all over the pitch....hence that combined with the skills and zero fear of going forward = premiereship.....on saying this i have to say there isnt a great divide in the prem anymore....ill say again, there is man utd and then the rest...Also players dont need to just be able and skillfull athletes...They must also have the mindset...i believe oppo teams dont fear us anymore

Edited January 13, 2013 by Mike Carefree

[That Boy Brandinho]

The mean, nasty, ungrateful fans are clearly to blame. This current Chelsea team is full of impressionable youngsters who have never been exposed to booing before. They have such an unshakable sense of esteem for their long-time manager, the FSW, that they can't function in such a tainted atmosphere. At away matches, it's harder to hear the FSW jeering, so they can slip into their happy place and play worry free football.

Edited January 13, 2013 by That Boy Brandinho

[ozboy]

I think the team is much more together away from home. We are certainly good at counter attacking and the extra space helps and contributes. I can't help feeling that the pressure at the Bridge partly caused by the crowd does have some impact as has the inability of Torres to score regularly enough.

[Zola]

When we are playing away the opposition home fans want to see entertainment. They attacks us leaving themselves more open.

 

When they come to the Bridge most would be happy with a draw...resulting in a much trickier / boring game.

 

Simple really!

Edited January 13, 2013 by Zola

[ilovechelseafc]

When we are playing away the opposition home fans want to see entertainment. They attacks us leaving themselves more open.

 

When they come to the Bridge most would be happy with a draw...resulting in a much trickier / boring game.

 

Simple really!

But that has always been the case. That has always happened and our home form has been fantastic. It has only gone to pot since the fans have been creating a poisonous hostile atmosphere. Even ex players in the media are saying this, why so much denial going on?

[Zola]

We have been better away for years, yes our home record was amazing under Jose.. but in recent years we have generally been better away..

 

The sh*t thats going on at the moment only helps to make us play away better...

 

no denial going on lad.

[jack_super_class]

Its not just this season though that we are better away,i haven't checked the stats but i think we have been like that for a few seasons now. Obviously we get more space away from home and can counter attack,maybe the fact we only play 1 CF sometimes is a problem at home?

[shedpensioner]

Maybe, just maybe in the past we had managers who were capable of changing things when teams parked the bus?

The incompetent fraud we currently have couldn't change his shoes to match his trousers let alone a game!

[BlueAardvarkrule]

When we are away the home side is typically geared up to attack in order to appease the home support who want to see adventurous attacking football especially against the top teams.

 

At home  the visitors are more cautious and its our challenge to break them down. This is best achieved through a combination of tempo and movement. Of the two it is tempo that we are not maintaining at a sufficiently high rate. We become to slow and predictable.  

[FLYMJ]

The fans create a negative environment it has an affect on the players, The players fell more free and fell under less pressure away

[ilovechelseafc]

When we are away the home side is typically geared up to attack in order to appease the home support who want to see adventurous attacking football especially against the top teams.

 

At home  the visitors are more cautious and its our challenge to break them down. This is best achieved through a combination of tempo and movement. Of the two it is tempo that we are not maintaining at a sufficiently high rate. We become to slow and predictable.  

AGAIN, this has been the case for ten years. This is not new! The only difference is this season, we have new younger players and the fans have turned the atmosphere poisonous and hostile at home.

Edited January 13, 2013 by ilovechelseafc

[ilovechelseafc]

We have been better away for years, yes our home record was amazing under Jose.. but in recent years we have generally been better away..

 

The sh*t thats going on at the moment only helps to make us play away better...

 

no denial going on lad.

 

 

Girl  x

Edited January 13, 2013 by ilovechelseafc

[bluedrake55]

an experience leader like Lamps was on the bench in our home defeats.  

[enigma]

If people don't think the atmosphere at home is affecting the team, then read this. It is what Cristiano Ronaldo said in the press about the fans not getting behind Mourinho at Real Madrid. 

 

 

"I have to ask that they stop this now," Ronaldo told reporters after their 5-2 aggregate victory set up a Cup quarter-final with Valencia. "The boss is going to stay, we still have a lot we can win this year. He is in charge and he takes the decisions, the fans and the players should help him.

 

"People have shown they are unhappy but that's enough now. They have to get behind the boss and the team. It affects the players out on the pitch. If we win the Cup and the Champions League it will have been a good year."

Edited January 14, 2013 by enigma

[JJ_Blue]

It's complete and utter bollocks!!

The hardened anti Rafa fans go to the away games. I was at Leeds and I went Southampton recently and my mate went to Stoke. On all occasions there has been a constant 'we don't care about Rafa' chant which is a lot louder and a lot clearer than at SB.

The reason our away form is better is simple;

Teams set up differently at home and because the FSW doesn't adopt such negative tactics and selections and plays the strongest 11.

People will always use the 'negative' fans but believe me it's a lot louder away from home!!

[Scott Harris]

The fans create a negative environment it has an affect on the players, The players fell more free and fell under less pressure away

 

 

AGAIN, this has been the case for ten years. This is not new! The only difference is this season, we have new younger players and the fans have turned the atmosphere poisonous and hostile at home.

 

I'm sorry but this is bullsh*t. The fans are not to blame at all. Chelsea were poor at home before the crowd started booing, jeez they are grown men not kids on the playground. It's a weak excuse.

 

There is a few reasons why we are playing poor at home.

 

The clubs set up defensively against us and for some reason we can't break them down.

When we do get chances we are incredibly wasteful.

We have a poor attitude.

 

Once / if we get past these issues then we may start becoming more consistent.