September 11, 201510 yr Well then could I borrow a few bob? 5 million will see me sorted, thanks. A few bob to us is entirely different to a few bob to Abramovich. For someone of his wealth who is happy to spunk £27m on Cuadrado then loan him out after a handful of games, yes, £15m is truly a drop in the ocean.
September 11, 201510 yr How much do Chelsea stand to make then Davey? I've heard estimates of around £15-20m a year (I've no idea how accurate that is. Please correct me if I'm wrong). For that kind of amount, I don't think it'd be worth it. The club are seemingly happy to take major financial hits in the transfer market (Torres, Cuadrado for example)...so I don't think selling off the club's historical stadium for a few bob makes sense. By the way, I'm eternally grateful to Abramovich, I just think some things should be sacred. I don't have to agree with every decision he makes. This almost sounds like the club bought them to lose money...
September 11, 201510 yr This almost sounds like the club bought them to lose money... "Seemingly". The club haven't exactly seemed too bothered about writing off money spent on players in the Abramovich regime. Torres, Veron, Crespo, Duff to name a few.
September 11, 201510 yr "Seemingly". The club haven't exactly seemed too bothered about writing off money spent on players in the Abramovich regime. Torres, Veron, Crespo, Duff to name a few. Why mention crespo and duff both done well for us. Crespos goals for games ratio was very good and duff was a key member of our 05/06 season
September 11, 201510 yr How much do Chelsea stand to make then Davey? I've heard estimates of around £15-20m a year (I've no idea how accurate that is. Please correct me if I'm wrong). For that kind of amount, I don't think it'd be worth it. The club are seemingly happy to take major financial hits in the transfer market (Torres, Cuadrado for example)...so I don't think selling off the club's historical stadium for a few bob makes sense. By the way, I'm eternally grateful to Abramovich, I just think some things should be sacred. I don't have to agree with every decision he makes. City had a 400m pound 10 year deal for kit and stadium. So naming rights to the new stadium could be worth 40m a year considering when they signed that deal and when ours will be ready. Yokohama paid 200m over 5 years for our kit alone.
September 12, 201510 yr City had a 400m pound 10 year deal for kit and stadium. So naming rights to the new stadium could be worth 40m a year considering when they signed that deal and when ours will be ready. Yokohama paid 200m over 5 years for our kit alone. City's stadium/kit deal is just a proxy for the owner to circumvent FFP. It's not even worth half that amount for 10 years.
September 12, 201510 yr City's stadium/kit deal is just a proxy for the owner to circumvent FFP. It's not even worth half that amount for 10 years. I think we all know that amount is massively above market value but how is it not worth half that? They are paying the full amount surely. It may not be worth half that but its getting put in. We could do the same if so inclined
September 12, 201510 yr Many years ago when sponsorship first appeared on shirts there were complaints, before that sponsorship in programmes had people complaining. How they are the norm, and sponsored ground names will also be the norm soon.
September 12, 201510 yr Why mention crespo and duff both done well for us. Crespos goals for games ratio was very good and duff was a key member of our 05/06 season I know. I'm not saying they weren't successes for Chelsea. I'm saying Chelsea wrote off a lot of money on them. We bought Duff for £17m and then flogged him to Newcastle for £5m when he was still young and a good player. How much of the £16-17m spent on Crespo did we recoup? As far as I can remember, not a great deal (or even nothing). Anyway, this is moving away from my original point. Clearly my point was that I don't think selling off the historical name of Stamford Bridge for the amounts being suggested is worth it.
September 12, 201510 yr I know. I'm not saying they weren't successes for Chelsea. I'm saying Chelsea wrote off a lot of money on them. We bought Duff for £17m and then flogged him to Newcastle for £5m when he was still young and a good player. How much of the £16-17m spent on Crespo did we recoup? As far as I can remember, not a great deal (or even nothing). Anyway, this is moving away from my original point. Clearly my point was that I don't think selling off the historical name of Stamford Bridge for the amounts being suggested is worth it. I don't want the name of our stadium changed but I'd be surprised if it wasn't
September 12, 201510 yr City had a 400m pound 10 year deal for kit and stadium. So naming rights to the new stadium could be worth 40m a year considering when they signed that deal and when ours will be ready. Yokohama paid 200m over 5 years for our kit alone. The City one is obviously well above market value to avoid FFP regulations. Arsenal's one with Emirates doesn't bring in a great deal for stadium naming rights (I believe the deal gains them more money from the shirt sponsorship so maybe that is more lucrative). That said, that deal was signed a long time ago so figures will have increased.
September 12, 201510 yr Surely, due to it remaining at the same location there's less chance of a name change. Edited September 12, 201510 yr by Droogba
September 12, 201510 yr Many years ago when sponsorship first appeared on shirts there were complaints, before that sponsorship in programmes had people complaining. How they are the norm, and sponsored ground names will also be the norm soon. If it is a new stadium then I don't really have a problem with it. It is when they want to turn Stamford Bridge into the KFC Bucket stadium that I have a problem. I find it remarkable that fans now are so accepting of the "well it is a business now so making money is the most important thing" idea. Some things are surely worth more than that. If it is purely "a business" or "industry" then what is the role of being a supporter? What is the point? We're not seeing any of the money. People support clubs because they love them (sorry, I sound a bit like a sickly Scouser now. Haha).
September 12, 201510 yr Surely, due to it remaining at the same location there's less chance of a name change. I hope so considering Stamford bridge was around before Chelsea fc was it would be great to keep its name
September 12, 201510 yr I remember sometime in the early 70s singing WEMBLEY WEMBLEY TWICE A YEAR WEMBLEY TWICE A YEAR...........when it was looking that way for a rare and surprising moment...It was a very big possible outcome for us chelsea fans in those days................What will we sing now ... It wont seem special if we play home games there on a temp basis , and , erm, get to wembley in a cup final........If its v spuds , we ll both be playing at home sos to speak....
September 12, 201510 yr Even being optimistic, I'm not so sure we'd get even close to 90'000 in for a home game against United or anyone else. The only way I could see that happening is if the tickets were cheap and on full blown general sale - and then there would probably be 20'000 United fans scattered around the upper tier. Using only the bottom tier we've got to find an extra 8'000 people to fill it and it remains to be seen whether the proposed relocation will have any neagtive effect on our core south west London fan base going to Wednesday night home games against say Sunderland. We would sell out Utd at home even at 90k. Hell if that match went to general sale I think a lot of non Chelsea fans would go as well. I know Id make a lot more trips if that were the case
September 12, 201510 yr We would sell out Utd at home even at 90k. Hell if that match went to general sale I think a lot of non Chelsea fans would go as well. I know Id make a lot more trips if that were the case We wont be playing them in The Championship though.
September 12, 201510 yr We wont be playing them in The Championship though. The cup draw might be kind to us. Looks like its craven cottage after all ha
September 12, 201510 yr We wont be playing them in The Championship though. looks like we might be renewing our old rivalry with dirty Leeds
September 12, 201510 yr looks like we might be renewing our old rivalry with dirty Leeds There are probably more posters on here who have never seen us play Leeds than those who have.
September 13, 201510 yr There are probably more posters on here who have never seen us play Leeds than those who have. capital one cup a few years back when we did them 5-1? Short memory eh?
September 13, 201510 yr capital one cup a few years back when we did them 5-1? Short memory eh? That's what I meant.
September 13, 201510 yr There are probably more posters on here who have never seen us play Leeds than those who have. Saw Leeds play a few times was at the last game they played in the premiership lol great we finish second they get relegated
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