Willian is no better than Schurrle.

Can't agree.

Willian is a more acomplished player IMO.

Both have different assets but if I had to choose one to start and one to bring on later in the game then Willian would be starting 9/10 times.

Big fan of both Willian and Shurrle. Both have pros and cons but I do feel Schurrle needs a consistant run of games in order to prove himself properly though.

I never thought we would have worse defensive winger than Robben. And then I saw Schurrle.

Cue loads of people saying that is not what he is in the team for. Indeedy doody. But the days of weird haired wingers standing out on the touchline Chris Waddle stylee are long gone.

Nowadays you attack as a team and defend as a team. Jose knows that. I not sure Schurrle does.

I never thought we would have worse defensive winger than Robben. And then I saw Schurrle.

Cue loads of people saying that is not what he is in the team for. Indeedy doody. But the days of weird haired wingers standing out on the touchline Chris Waddle stylee are long gone.

Nowadays you attack as a team and defend as a team. Jose knows that. I not sure Schurrle does.

 

I really disagree. While he has lapsed a couple of times this season in not tracking his man, he actually performed well defensively last season. He won the ball back and initiated breaks plenty of times. He started the 2-0 win over Liverpool last year and was credited with an excellent defensive performance in that game too. While he started because Jose was resting Willian for Atletico, it was also because he trusted Schurrle in a defensive formation.

I wouldn't mind changing him for Reus next summer if he dosen't improve until then.

People have judged him too harshly. Remember his assist for the goal that won the world cup final? Unbelievable. He is a great player, makes all the right runs. His positioning when he scored that goal against City was pure excellence. Give him time, he is more than just a super sub.

I never thought we would have worse defensive winger than Robben. And then I saw Schurrle.

Cue loads of people saying that is not what he is in the team for. Indeedy doody. But the days of weird haired wingers standing out on the touchline Chris Waddle stylee are long gone.

Nowadays you attack as a team and defend as a team. Jose knows that. I not sure Schurrle does.

He has been subpar overall lately, it's not just his defending. I recently watched us against Bayern from last season's Supercup and was really impressed with his overall performance. He looked so much better defensively than what we've seen from him these past few weeks.

People have judged him too harshly. Remember his assist for the goal that won the world cup final? Unbelievable. He is a great player, makes all the right runs. His positioning when he scored that goal against City was pure excellence. Give him time, he is more than just a super sub.

You could well be right Blueblur. He has the ability and pace but he needs to add quality decision making both from an attacking and defensive perspective. I like him, I like his attitude 90% of the time. Sometimes I think he tries too hard to be the main man.

Watching old footage of Pat Nevin could make Schurrle a more complete player. Know when to take someone on. Know when to pass. Know when and how, to defend

Edited October 10, 201411 yr by just

i think a couple of people have hit the nail on the head.  he just thinks to much, a couple of times i've seen him look at a pass to costa and you can see the cogs turning, but he's delayed it and costa has given him stick, we are much more solid with willian and willian is an all round better player.

Willian is more disciplined and more conservative in every way. Schurrle needs a good defensive mid to let him roam free. In tight defensive games Willian is better, in more open ones I go for Schurrle.

What I like about willian is his ability to keep the ball. Schurrle at times will try take on a man and lose the ball. If Willian can't take on the man, he won't.

Yea but Willian doesn't score. Schürrle scores important goals.

Looking at the stats more closely. ..

Andre has 10 goals spread over 7 games in 35 appearances

Willian has 5 over 5 in 30 appearneces.

Id say willians contributions to the team is greater. He should deffinatly be looking for more goals.

Looking at the stats more closely. ..

Andre has 10 goals spread over 7 games in 35 appearances

Willian has 5 over 5 in 30 appearneces.

Id say willians contributions to the team is greater. He should deffinatly be looking for more goals.

 

Schurrle has more sub appearances though. There was a stat last year, I forget the numbers, which showed Schurrle's goals from the games he has started and it was really impressive.

Maybe we should have a little more patience Schurrle is only 23

Maybe we should have a little more patience Schurrle is only 23

You should know better. This is Chelsea. Patience, especially for youth, isn't in their policy.

And it's not like Willian has been any good when he started. I seriously think Schurrle should get a long run in the first team. 

Yeah I agree Willian can keep the ball etc. but what does he do by keeping it? His shots are wayward I mean seriously wayward! His movement is not so great. He provides zero to no goal threat which we expects from a winger nor he can find that decisive pass in the box like Hazard. Yeah I agree he's very good in pressing etc. On other hand Schurrle has a killer instinct(kind of) in front of goal, his movement is quite good and he's mostly in positions to score goals.

 

I have nothing against Willian or so but I seriously don't think he's any better than Schurrle. They both players are good in different ways.

Willian got a lot of chance last season compared to Schurrle I mean starts but he didn't particularly impressed me as much as Schurrle did.

 

Plus the fact is Willian is or should be probably in his peak right now he's 26 years old wherea Schurrle is fairly young just 23 years old. Schurrle will get better over the time. He could well be another Mueller type player for us.

In the big big games last season, for me more often then not Willian was a candidate for MOM.. 

Let's just say that I think it is telling that Schurrle is getting picked more than Willian even if not playing as well as he can.

Schurrle is the kind of player that you feel like could pop up with something from nowhere at any time.

Willian is often solid but unspectacular and will rarely be a match winner.

It just tells about our squad depth. We have a duo like Schurrle and Willian fighting for that one midfield spot. City can probably match us with Silva and Navas and maybe now ManU but we have nice depth

Let's just say that I think it is telling that Schurrle is getting picked more than Willian even if not playing as well as he can.

Schurrle is the kind of player that you feel like could pop up with something from nowhere at any time.

Willian is often solid but unspectacular and will rarely be a match winner.

That's what interests me. It is perfectly fine to argue that Willian does not yet have the end product of Schurrle. If we were debating Iniesta vs Schurrle you could make the same argument. But Schurrle will NEVER be quicker, a better dribbler or better technically than Willian. Whereas Willian's output can change with time and experience.

Willian may have a few years on him, but you'd be hard pressed to find a player coming from a very weak league and setting the PL alight within two seasons. I don't care about players who can 'pop-up' with a goal. They belong on the bench. I want to see the players who make the team stronger in all technical facets of the game. That's how you become a dominant team.

That's what interests me. It is perfectly fine to argue that Willian does not yet have the end product of Schurrle. If we were debating Iniesta vs Schurrle you could make the same argument. But Schurrle will NEVER be quicker, a better dribbler or better technically than Willian. Whereas Willian's output can change with time and experience.

Willian may have a few years on him, but you'd be hard pressed to find a player coming from a very weak league and setting the PL alight within two seasons. I don't care about players who can 'pop-up' with a goal. They belong on the bench. I want to see the players who make the team stronger in all technical facets of the game. That's how you become a dominant team.

I would debate who is quicker out of the two personally, Schurrle is no slouch.

Willian, for me, just doesn't excell at any one thing. He is a solid play that puts in a shift but he doesn't really have an eye for goal and doesn't often pull of great passes and rarely assists goals... He's ended up being a really expensive work horse.

In my opinion Schurrle is the better player, things happen when he is on the pitch and he won't always miss the chances he has done recently. His movement in the final third is exceptional and so many chances are created because of it.

Schurrle is the kind of player to win you games, Willian is the kind of player who is there for the benefit of those around him but will only rarely do something significant himself.

I feel that people's judgements of Schurrle are largely coloured by what he achieved for Germany.

In my opinion Schurrle is the better player, things happen when he is on the pitch and he won't always miss the chances he has done recently. His movement in the final third is exceptional and so many chances are created because of it.

Schurrle is the kind of player to win you games, Willian is the kind of player who is there for the benefit of those around him but will only rarely do something significant himself.

If that fits your criteria of what a 'better' player should be then fair enough. But my argument is that there's more to it than just simply making things happen, which undoubtedly Schurrle has over Willian. And while Schurrle may produce more right now, he will never be a better footballer (all technical aspects considered).

Mata is more productive and has magic moments far more frequently than someone like Iniesta, but it is abundantly clear who most would consider to be the better footballer.

Edited October 12, 201411 yr by venom2011

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