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Petr Cech to Arsenal

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Whilst I really appreciate what Cech has done for our club I can't help feeling like he's kicked us in the teeth. Didn't the last 11 years mean anything to him? Did us fans mean anything to him? Going to our direct rivals?

When he plays against us I won't boo him but I can't bring myself to clap him either.

Oh dear!

It's the Lampard thing all over again. Standup, it's just a job for footballers. If we switch jobs, we don't let others who are not family influence our decision where we work next, do we? We decide for ourselves. Following that reasoning, it's a bit naive to expect Cech to take our feelings into account. It's his life, his job, whether we like it or not. So stop being a drama queen and give Cech some applause when we play against him.

It's the Lampard thing all over again. Standup, it's just a job for footballers. If we switch jobs, we don't let others who are not family influence our decision where we work next, do we? We decide for ourselves. Following that reasoning, it's a bit naive to expect Cech to take our feelings into account. It's his life, his job, whether we like it or not. So stop being a drama queen and give Cech some applause when we play against him.

He could have gone elsewhere and would have got our blessing. Us switching jobs is a lot different to footballers who are financially made for life! I would give Cech applause but not whilst he's playing for Arsenal! Never!

He could have gone elsewhere and would have got our blessing. Us switching jobs is a lot different to footballers who are financially made for life! I would give Cech applause but not whilst he's playing for Arsenal! Never!

For footballers, excluding the journeymen moneygrabbers, it's exactly the same as for us. They want to do what they love to do, and preferably not dislodge their families when switching jobs. Plus Cech is not looking for our blessing, he's looking for for a starting place in the London area, and it looks like he's found it. Nobody is saying we should applaud Cech WHILST he's playing for Arsenal, he's become an opponent after all, but an appreciative applause when a former player during 10 successful years comes on the pitch is surely deserved.

Isn't it a bit of a double standard to say that after 10 years he owes us nothing, it's just a job, but that we should applaud him for those 10 years? Why, as it's so eloquently put, it's just a job and meant nothing. If a decade of playing for CFC doesn't have to mean anything for the player, then why does a decade of a player at a club have to mean anything more to the fans? Call me odd, but I've always felt respect is a two way street even if the other side has more money and can kick/stop a ball better.

If he doesn't have to consider how the fans feel, why should the fans have to show him any feeling?

Just asking....

For footballers, excluding the journeymen moneygrabbers, it's exactly the same as for us. They want to do what they love to do, and preferably not dislodge their families when switching jobs. Plus Cech is not looking for our blessing, he's looking for for a starting place in the London area, and it looks like he's found it. Nobody is saying we should applaud Cech WHILST he's playing for Arsenal, he's become an opponent after all, but an appreciative applause when a former player during 10 successful years comes on the pitch is surely deserved.

Of course he's entitled to go where he wants but then don't expect the same reception as if he had joined PSG or another team though he will get a fairly good reception. It's a terrible decision to let him go to Arsenal. Still can't believe it!

Isn't it a bit of a double standard to say that after 10 years he owes us nothing, it's just a job, but that we should applaud him for those 10 years? Why, as it's so eloquently put, it's just a job and meant nothing. If a decade of playing for CFC doesn't have to mean anything for the player, then why does a decade of a player at a club have to mean anything more to the fans? Call me odd, but I've always felt respect is a two way street even if the other side has more money and can kick/stop a ball better.

If he doesn't have to consider how the fans feel, why should the fans have to show him any feeling?

Just asking....

 

so true. 

Isn't it a bit of a double standard to say that after 10 years he owes us nothing, it's just a job, but that we should applaud him for those 10 years? Why, as it's so eloquently put, it's just a job and meant nothing. If a decade of playing for CFC doesn't have to mean anything for the player, then why does a decade of a player at a club have to mean anything more to the fans? Call me odd, but I've always felt respect is a two way street even if the other side has more money and can kick/stop a ball better.

If he doesn't have to consider how the fans feel, why should the fans have to show him any feeling?

Just asking....

Depends on what sort of fan you are. If your the sort who appreciates what a fantastic servant he was for the club or one who try as they might just doesn't quite get football sorry soccer. Just answering

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Depends on what sort of fan you are. If your the sort who appreciates what a fantastic servant he was for the club or one who try as they might just doesn't quite get football sorry soccer. Just answering

No I don't think you are actually. Answering that is.

 

You've respoded to a perfectly reasonable question with an assertion that anyone asking such a question doesn't "get" the game. The beauty of football, or soccer if you prefer - back in the good old days, the terms were interchangeable, is that there is plenty of room for wildly differing opinions, there are discussions to be had, points to be debated and argued over. Problems all too often arise with the sort of fan who thinks that there is only one way of being a fan, or a supporter - another pair of terms that were equally interchangeable back in the day.

 

Try as they might? Wth respect I think you need to try a little harder to "get" the point that conflicting opinions may just be as equally valid as your own. Maybe even more so.

Depends on what sort of fan you are. If your the sort who appreciates what a fantastic servant he was for the club or one who try as they might just doesn't quite get football sorry soccer. Just answering

Thanks for exposing your ignorance via ad hominem tactics, the sure sign of a brilliant mind with a valid point.

You seem to imply the club and fans owe Cech repayment for his service. You are aware he made no sacrifices to come to Chelsea, right? You are aware he didn't sacrifice any ambitions to stay here, right? You are aware that this fantastic "servant" was being paid a fantastic sum, right? Over 5 million a year for the grueling task of playing football for one of the most competitive clubs in the world.

As for not getting football, sorry soccer, care to explain how that pertains to how loyalty should only be a one way street? Try as you might, there's not a feasible connection unless you feel football is all about treating a rich young man better than others, but in that case you're welcome to that. To me, it's about far more.

Isn't it a bit of a double standard to say that after 10 years he owes us nothing, it's just a job, but that we should applaud him for those 10 years? Why, as it's so eloquently put, it's just a job and meant nothing. If a decade of playing for CFC doesn't have to mean anything for the player, then why does a decade of a player at a club have to mean anything more to the fans? Call me odd, but I've always felt respect is a two way street even if the other side has more money and can kick/stop a ball better.

If he doesn't have to consider how the fans feel, why should the fans have to show him any feeling?

Just asking....

I merely have been trying to point out, here and in the Lampard to City thread, that players are entitled to make choices that some supporters won't like. It's totally silly how some supporters take the choice to go to a rival team as a personal affront and wallow in bitterness, saying they will not applaud those former players. To which I say there is no reason not to applaud them as a greeting to former players who did very well for us.

Isn't it a bit of a double standard to say that after 10 years he owes us nothing, it's just a job, but that we should applaud him for those 10 years? Why, as it's so eloquently put, it's just a job and meant nothing. If a decade of playing for CFC doesn't have to mean anything for the player, then why does a decade of a player at a club have to mean anything more to the fans? Call me odd, but I've always felt respect is a two way street even if the other side has more money and can kick/stop a ball better.

If he doesn't have to consider how the fans feel, why should the fans have to show him any feeling?

Just asking....

 

 

Pretty much this, I'm not encouraging it but I don't we we can judge anyone that may throw a bit of verbal cech's way when he comes turns up against us. Respect as Barry puts it is a two way street. If it's expected that fans are "great-full" for cech's contribution over the last 10 years to the extent that we are happy for him to go to arsenal, why couldn't it be expected that cech is great-full for fans paying his wages for the last 10 years and singing showing support. 

 

At the end of the day it's his choice where he goes if Roman has given him the green light, had i been in romans place I would have told him quite clearly that he can not go to a direct rival.

 

When was the last time one of them did us a favour? 

Isn't it a bit of a double standard to say that after 10 years he owes us nothing, it's just a job, but that we should applaud him for those 10 years? Why, as it's so eloquently put, it's just a job and meant nothing. If a decade of playing for CFC doesn't have to mean anything for the player, then why does a decade of a player at a club have to mean anything more to the fans? Call me odd, but I've always felt respect is a two way street even if the other side has more money and can kick/stop a ball better.

If he doesn't have to consider how the fans feel, why should the fans have to show him any feeling?

Just asking....

Great post.

I merely have been trying to point out, here and in the Lampard to City thread, that players are entitled to make choices that some supporters won't like. It's totally silly how some supporters take the choice to go to a rival team as a personal affront and wallow in bitterness, saying they will not applaud those former players. To which I say there is no reason not to applaud them as a greeting to former players who did very well for us.

Bitter? Whether you agree or not, it's my decision to applaud or not applaud without being called bitter. We pay our money and our entitled to applaud or not applaud? I'm not going to boo him, I'm just not going to applaud. Do you ever go to games? If you did then you'd understand.

Bitter? Whether you agree or not, it's my decision to applaud or not applaud without being called bitter. We pay our money and our entitled to applaud or not applaud? I'm not going to boo him, I'm just not going to applaud. Do you ever go to games? If you did then you'd understand.

I agree for your right to appluad or not appluad but Valerie does go to games but living in the Netherland makes that bit harder. So I don't understand what you mean by if you went to games you'd understand comment care to explain ? Personally what cech has done doesn't sit kindly with me but its done now so we have to move forward.

Bitter? Whether you agree or not, it's my decision to applaud or not applaud without being called bitter. We pay our money and our entitled to applaud or not applaud? I'm not going to boo him, I'm just not going to applaud. Do you ever go to games? If you did then you'd understand.

Did I call you bitter, I don't think I did. There are some supporters that are, though, just read the many posts on Chelsea sites (not just this one). And it's certainly your decision not to applaud him, I gave you my response to that decision. As Graham mentioned I do go to games, so climb off your high horse that you somehow know and understand things better than I do. You don't.

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