11 minutes ago, Scott Harris said:

If he is like Robben, then i expect Bayern to go in for him eventually. Robben isn't getting any younger, this guy could be the perfect replacement.

 

On 23/02/2018 at 16:42, Lucashm said:

Is Sancho really better than him? CHO looks like a generational talent to me, an absurd combination of pace, outrageous skill, balance, strenght, decision making.... you name it, he´s got it all.

But like you said, the most impressive thing about him, is how rapidly he is improving, if he continues the way he has, he might become an actual senior member and a regular feature for our side by the end of the season! And for a player that wasn´t even in the reckoning at the beggining of the season that is ridiculously impressive and a testament to his abilities and dedication.

We have in our hands the best ever talent to emerge from our academy, we simply CANNOT f**k this up

Sancho is already getting good amounts of first team football so is definitely ahead at the moment. He is also usually the star man who looks comfortably better then everybody else when they both play forthe national side. However, I do feel that CHO, with his current trajectory, can overtake Sancho in the next year. He really has improved so much. 

Either way, England have 2/3 potential generation defining players on their hands from that U17 side. It's quite exciting to watch as an England fan.

11 hours ago, Total-Football said:

Sancho is already getting good amounts of first team football so is definitely ahead at the moment. He is also usually the star man who looks comfortably better then everybody else when they both play forthe national side. However, I do feel that CHO, with his current trajectory, can overtake Sancho in the next year. He really has improved so much. 

Either way, England have 2/3 potential generation defining players on their hands from that U17 side. It's quite exciting to watch as an England fan.

Hmm i dont know, Callum has done pretty well when given the chance so far. Sancho hasn´t even played that much for Dortmund. I will take your word for it though, i just feel that Hudson Odoi looks more naturally talented

21 hours ago, Total-Football said:

Sancho is already getting good amounts of first team football so is definitely ahead at the moment. He is also usually the star man who looks comfortably better then everybody else when they both play forthe national side. However, I do feel that CHO, with his current trajectory, can overtake Sancho in the next year. He really has improved so much. 

Either way, England have 2/3 potential generation defining players on their hands from that U17 side. It's quite exciting to watch as an England fan.

Seen a bit of Dortmund this season Sancho had started a few games and was making regular appearances untill he got injured, He even made an assist for Kagawa and was unlucky not to score. He is being higly rated by their new manager and I belive will get many chances in the future. 

As for CHO his development depends on how much he plays in the next few games. He has been very impressive when ever he has come on looks much confident than many youth players I have seen over the past few years. 

Just hope that we don't loan CHO out like we did to others. I know people will bring in Coutois,Christensen and say that loan would be good for his development but in reality it won't . We have loaned out hundreds of players and have had  success only with 2.

With the current level of Pedro, i don't understand why Conte not give him his chance... 

On 23-2-2018 at 16:08, Lucashm said:

Why? I mean, he was involved against Barcelona FFS.

Conte clearly rates him very highly

Because we're now at the business end of the season where every point is vital. Imo getting top 4 is going to be a massive struggle so I doubt we'll see any more of CHO in the first team (on the pitch that is).
Maybe he'll get to make a sub appearance when we're comfortably ahead in the 80th minute or something, but I don't think it will be much more than that.

2 hours ago, CFCholland said:

Because we're now at the business end of the season where every point is vital. Imo getting top 4 is going to be a massive struggle so I doubt we'll see any more of CHO in the first team (on the pitch that is).
Maybe he'll get to make a sub appearance when we're comfortably ahead in the 80th minute or something, but I don't think it will be much more than that.

Callum is A LOT more helpfull than Pedro in the form that he is in.

CHO is already a PL level player, if Conte insists on playing underperforming players regardless of results, he can f**k right off

1 goal, 2 assists and caused an own goal from a cross in 6-0 win over fulham tonight at craven cottage. He's on fire. 

He reminds me a lot of Ousmane Dembele. Not just the way he plays. Even how he runs with the ball. Incredible talent. 

4 hours ago, The Liquidator said:

He reminds me a lot of Ousmane Dembele. Not just the way he plays. Even how he runs with the ball. Incredible talent. 

He is f**king incredible! I watched the game, and you could see how terrified the fulham players were, whenever he got the ball.

And he does remind me a lot of Dembele too, but he is more of an attacker, while Dembele is more of a midfielder

What game was it where he last came on? I think we were losing, probably either Bournemouth game or Watford game but he came on and he looked head & shoulders above everyone else. Plays with such confidence for a 17 year old, wasn't too cautious, liked to try out new things. Good for him I really like this player, I hope we get to see more of him before the season finishes. 

18 minutes ago, Slojo said:

What game was it where he last came on? I think we were losing, probably either Bournemouth game or Watford game but he came on and he looked head & shoulders above everyone else. Plays with such confidence for a 17 year old, wasn't too cautious, liked to try out new things. Good for him I really like this player, I hope we get to see more of him before the season finishes. 

It was against bournemouth

To be honest, even if he will score 50 goals in a season, it won't change his position.

In a team like Dortmund, Milan, Atletico, even Arsenal he could already find himself on the team sheet. He's a real talent and I pray we won't lose him. If Alex Iwobi was starting instead of Sanchez in few games, then I'm sure we can allow this kid to play as well. Rashford, Alli, Chalobah and RLC ( who both got an International call-up ), McTominay who's starting to rise. All of them are having their chance to properly.

We've incredible talent in our hands, Ampadu, Christensen ( who is finally an academy player that regularly plays ). 

If he was an Arsenal player he'd have at least played a handful of games already for them considering there in the Europa league. Hey, probably woulda played in the League Cup and the Fa Cup. That's the thing about Arsene, he gives the kids a shot. In all fairness, he wouldn't look out of place in their starting lineup now in certain games. Has a similiar game to few Arsenal players. Wenger will probably put a bid in now. 

Edited February 28, 20188 yr by Famous CFC

29 minutes ago, Famous CFC said:

If he was an Arsenal player he'd have at least played a handful of games already for them considering there in the Europa league. Hey, probably woulda played in the League Cup and the Fa Cup. That's the thing about Arsene, he gives the kids a shot. In all fairness, he wouldn't look out of place in their starting lineup now in certain games. Has a similiar game to few Arsenal players. Wenger will probably put a bid in now. 

But having said that Arsene Wenger has failed at developing players over the last several years, Iwobi was hyped now the Arsenal fans can't stand him whenever he plays, Coq another bottle job, Chambers looks crap, Wilshere looks okay lately but he's still never developed into the player he could have been. 

I think his time of developing superstars like RVP, Fabregas & Nasri has gone, but with those 3 you got 10 more players like Denilson that he stuck out on his teamsheet constantly and they never delivered. 

I strongly believe we have the best youth in the country, we need to be careful but we definitely need to take the chance and play them more often. 

1 hour ago, IliyaKrostin said:

To be honest, even if he will score 50 goals in a season, it won't change his position.

In a team like Dortmund, Milan, Atletico, even Arsenal he could already find himself on the team sheet. He's a real talent and I pray we won't lose him. If Alex Iwobi was starting instead of Sanchez in few games, then I'm sure we can allow this kid to play as well. Rashford, Alli, Chalobah and RLC ( who both got an International call-up ), McTominay who's starting to rise. All of them are having their chance to properly.

We've incredible talent in our hands, Ampadu, Christensen ( who is finally an academy player that regularly plays ). 

How many players get regular minutes at a top club at this age? He is in the equivalent of his first year in college/6th form right now. For perspective Messi, Hazard and O Dembele were still awaiting their first team debut's at the same age.

1 hour ago, Slojo said:

But having said that Arsene Wenger has failed at developing players over the last several years, Iwobi was hyped now the Arsenal fans can't stand him whenever he plays, Coq another bottle job, Chambers looks crap, Wilshere looks okay lately but he's still never developed into the player he could have been. 

I think his time of developing superstars like RVP, Fabregas & Nasri has gone, but with those 3 you got 10 more players like Denilson that he stuck out on his teamsheet constantly and they never delivered. 

I strongly believe we have the best youth in the country, we need to be careful but we definitely need to take the chance and play them more often. 

Arsenal are a joke so excuse me if I don't give a f**k about what they say. That channel of theirs is an embarrassment and says everything you need to know about the supports of that club. Wilshire is a quality player. Mentality and injuries have prevented him from becoming a world class performer. Still be the first midfielder on my team sheet come June. Well we shall see what comes of these young kids at Chelsea. I'd go ahead and say only possibly Hudson-Odio will gave a decent career. United's Youth players have been pretty good of late. Rashford is a star in the making. This young lad who played against Chelsea looks like he could play that role every week. Arsenal doing pretty good as usual. Let's see in say 5 years who's doing what. I don't hold a lot of hope for Chelsea's young lads apart from Hudson-Odio. I wouldn't be surprised one bit if Ampadu is in League One and struggles to progress.  But it's all ifs and buts ain't it. If I had to put it all on one player, it would be Hudson-Odio. 

The worst thing in all of this, it's that why Conte doesn't want give him an opportunity instead of Pedro mostly,  with his abyssal level currently... 

18 hours ago, Famous CFC said:

If he was an Arsenal player he'd have at least played a handful of games already for them considering there in the Europa league. Hey, probably woulda played in the League Cup and the Fa Cup. That's the thing about Arsene, he gives the kids a shot. In all fairness, he wouldn't look out of place in their starting lineup now in certain games. Has a similiar game to few Arsenal players. Wenger will probably put a bid in now. 

He would have been played out of position then dropped, which has happened to several young players at Arsenal lately. this obsession with Wenger being the great young player saviour is very odd, he just doesn't do that anymore.

Least he'd have got some game time and experience. Money can't buy you experience. Wenger no matter what happens this year will go down as one of the greats. Those degenerates who support Arsenal don't deserve him. 

17 hours ago, Famous CFC said:

Arsenal are a joke so excuse me if I don't give a f**k about what they say. That channel of theirs is an embarrassment and says everything you need to know about the supports of that club. Wilshire is a quality player. Mentality and injuries have prevented him from becoming a world class performer. Still be the first midfielder on my team sheet come June. Well we shall see what comes of these young kids at Chelsea. I'd go ahead and say only possibly Hudson-Odio will gave a decent career. United's Youth players have been pretty good of late. Rashford is a star in the making. This young lad who played against Chelsea looks like he could play that role every week. Arsenal doing pretty good as usual. Let's see in say 5 years who's doing what. I don't hold a lot of hope for Chelsea's young lads apart from Hudson-Odio. I wouldn't be surprised one bit if Ampadu is in League One and struggles to progress.  But it's all ifs and buts ain't it. If I had to put it all on one player, it would be Hudson-Odio. 

What?? Wilshere would be the first player on your team sheet come June? Am I seeing this correctly? 

19 minutes ago, Slojo said:

What?? Wilshere would be the first player on your team sheet come June? Am I seeing this correctly? 

First midfielder on my team sheet, absolutely. Henderson captain and potential first choice midfielder, got nothing on Wilshire. 

Edited March 1, 20188 yr by Famous CFC

3 minutes ago, Famous CFC said:

First midfielder on my team sheet, absolutely. 

I wouldn't mind sharing that bag with you sometime fella 

4 minutes ago, Slojo said:

I wouldn't mind sharing that bag with you sometime fella 

Henderson, Dier,(Don't mind him to be fair.) Livermore, or Wilshire? Not difficult is it. I don't know what bag we're sharing, Slojo, but if it's any good let us know. 

Edited March 1, 20188 yr by Famous CFC

17 minutes ago, Famous CFC said:

Henderson, Dier,(Don't mind him to be fair.) Livermore, or Wilshire? Not difficult is it. I don't know what bag we're sharing, Slojo, but if it's any good let us know. 

Oh I thought you meant your own team sheet, not the England one, anyway, we've derailed this thread more than enough.