Ahh we have Hudson-odoi and sterling who needs dzeko and Emerson....

3 hours ago, Erdal1905 said:

gone: JT, Matic, Diego, Chalobah, RLC (on Loan), Ake, Zouma (loan)
In: Zappacosta, Rüdiger, Christensen, Drinkwater, Barkley, Bakayoko, Morata, Willy

unbelivable...only Christensen and Caballero were hits...and now all these rumours about the potential new signings...it's like the board accepting trying to be the new arsenal/liverpool (accepting a CL spot at best)

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You must be trolling with this

 

 

4 minutes ago, Ledgerson said:

 

 

He's saying that Dzeko and Chelsea nearly agreed a deal, while Chelsea and Rome not yet, there's still some distance.

@AudreyTruman  clarify something for us please on dimarzio's report.   Does it say chelsea are willing to offer Dzeko 5.5m euros a season until 2021... or that is what Dzeko wants and we are still not agreeing.

 

I have read the English one but some outlets say that we have agreed to pay it to Dzeko... im confused

35 minutes ago, RickUK said:

@AudreyTruman  clarify something for us please on dimarzio's report.   Does it say chelsea are willing to offer Dzeko 5.5m euros a season until 2021... or that is what Dzeko wants and we are still not agreeing.

 

I have read the English one but some outlets say that we have agreed to pay it to Dzeko... im confused

Yes, Chelsea should meet Dzeko's requests, 5,5 mln euros a year x 3 years. But there are still details to be defined, like Chelsea's offer to Roma, which is 56 mln total and Roma wants a little more.

@AudreyTruman
Was meaning to tell you this but didn't know when to bring it up, Roma are actually my favourite Italian team.
I visited Rome in 2016 and got a Roma Shirt with Totti on the back from the Club Store, lovely city.

39 minutes ago, RickUK said:

@AudreyTruman  clarify something for us please on dimarzio's report.   Does it say chelsea are willing to offer Dzeko 5.5m euros a season until 2021... or that is what Dzeko wants and we are still not agreeing.

 

I have read the English one but some outlets say that we have agreed to pay it to Dzeko... im confused

The article states that he wants a 3 and a half year contract worth 5.5M euros a season.

Also, we are offering 20 plus 6 in bonuses for Emerson and 30 for Dzeko(no bonuses), but Roma want more and we have 48 hours to accept it or not

Honestly, despite what Sky Sports says, i´m pretty confident that this deal will happen

 

2 minutes ago, AudreyTruman said:

Yes, Chelsea should meet Dzeko's requests, 5,5 mln euros a year x 3 years. But there are still details to be defined, like Chelsea's offer to Roma, which is 56 mln total and Roma wants a little more.

 

2 minutes ago, Lucashm said:

The article states that he wants a 3 and a half year contract worth 5.5M euros a season.

Also, we are offering 20 plus 6 in bonuses for Emerson and 30 for Dzeko(no bonuses), but Roma want more and we have 48 hours to accept it or not

Thanks.  I read some sites saying we have agreed Dzeko's contract requests so wanted to make sure

Just now, RickUK said:

 

 

Thanks.  I read some sites saying we have agreed Dzeko's contract requests so wanted to make sure

No worries mate.

Funny how a loss can affect the mood isn´t it

If this whole affair has done anything then it has shed some light on some frankly archaic club policy. 
Players can still be very effective in their 30s these days, look at Mertens or Modric.

If it's to be a double deal there's definitely room to fudge the figures as far as fpp goes.

Let's say Roma want £20m for Emerson and £30m for Dzeko and we'd be offering Emerson 4and a half years ( or maybe 5 and a half even better) and Dzeko 2 and a half.

Having a £30m fee ammortised over only a 30 month contract and Dzeko obviously being on a sizeable wage could be quite a burden.

It would make much more financial sense for us to even go a bit avove the £50m mark and add a little £2m sweetener to Roma for the fees to be broken into sat £35m for Emerson and £17m for Dzeko.

This is all hypothetical of course and such methods would never occur (cough Monaco James and Moutinho cough cough)

52 minutes ago, TomCFC85 said:

If this whole affair has done anything then it has shed some light on some frankly archaic club policy. 
Players can still be very effective in their 30s these days, look at Mertens or Modric.

1st team players Franck Ribery & Arjen Robben are both 34 years of age playing for Bayern Munich. Vidal will turn 31 in 3 months. They are 14 points clear on top of the Bundesliga.

It wouldn't be so bad having seasoned veterans in their 30's mixed up with the younger players.

2 hours ago, TomCFC85 said:

@AudreyTruman
Was meaning to tell you this but didn't know when to bring it up, Roma are actually my favourite Italian team.
I visited Rome in 2016 and got a Roma Shirt with Totti on the back from the Club Store, lovely city.

 Glad you liked it, best place in the world, simply. And Roma and Chelsea have a long story of playing each other .

 

(and Totti is the best italian player in history and one of the top 5/10 europeans, but shhhhh)

Edited January 27, 20188 yr by AudreyTruman

2 hours ago, TomCFC85 said:

If this whole affair has done anything then it has shed some light on some frankly archaic club policy. 
Players can still be very effective in their 30s these days, look at Mertens or Modric.

Sorry but you are talking absolute nonsense and arguing a point that doesn't even exist. Neither Mertens nor Modric were signed in their 30's for a start.

The club is not against having players over 30, going by your point we have Luiz, Cahill, Fabregas, Pedro, soon Willian plus two GK's that are all 30+ and would have been discarded by this non existent "archaic club policy" and I must have dream the likes of Lampard, Cole, Drogba, Ballack, Malouda, Terry among others all player key roles deep into their 30's.

The club have a natural unwillingness to splash cash on assets that will have zero resale value and/or attaching themselves to players that are 30+ for 3-4 years when at that age and at this level the player can become as much of a hinderance as an asset quite suddenly (see Ivanovic, Rooney etc) and than not only will nobody give you a fee for them but you will likely have to subsideise their wages just to get them off the books.

Ronaldo is currently the second or arguably third best player in the world yet no clubs where money matters would be in the queue to pay what Madrid would want for him if he were to be on the market and they certainly wouldn't pay him the salary he'd want on a contract that would take him to the age of 36/37.

It's really not difficult to understand if you take a step back, take a breath and remember this is real life, real money and real business being done.

1 hour ago, ChelseaFanBoy said:

1st team players Franck Ribery & Arjen Robben are both 34 years of age playing for Bayern Munich. Vidal will turn 31 in 3 months. They are 14 points clear on top of the Bundesliga.

It wouldn't be so bad having seasoned veterans in their 30's mixed up with the younger players.

Hilarious that you use Bayern as an example when they do the exact opposite of what you are trying to argue.

Ribery and Robben have been at the club for years and years, for them see Terry, Cole, Lampard, Drogba etc. I don't thnk either have been given 3-4 year extensions in their 30's either.......

Please name me 3 players that were 30 or over that Bayern have paid a transfer fee for in the past 6-7 years............

Vidal turns 31, you are correct, and they've already got his replacement coming in the summer in Goretzka, just like they replaced Schweinsteiger with Thiago a few years ago. Vidal will likely be sold in the summer and i'd be very surprised if both Ribery and Robben were there next season too.

So if you look quite closely at what actually happens at Bayern instead of what you mistakenly think happens there than you'll see it is basically what you are arguing against the Chelsea board for.

7 hours ago, TomCFC85 said:

If this whole affair has done anything then it has shed some light on some frankly archaic club policy. 
Players can still be very effective in their 30s these days, look at Mertens or Modric.

Everything seems to be about resale value at Chelsea nowadays.

5 hours ago, startedwithglenn said:

Hilarious that you use Bayern as an example when they do the exact opposite of what you are trying to argue.

Ribery and Robben have been at the club for years and years, for them see Terry, Cole, Lampard, Drogba etc. I don't thnk either have been given 3-4 year extensions in their 30's either.......

Please name me 3 players that were 30 or over that Bayern have paid a transfer fee for in the past 6-7 years............

Vidal turns 31, you are correct, and they've already got his replacement coming in the summer in Goretzka, just like they replaced Schweinsteiger with Thiago a few years ago. Vidal will likely be sold in the summer and i'd be very surprised if both Ribery and Robben were there next season too.

So if you look quite closely at what actually happens at Bayern instead of what you mistakenly think happens there than you'll see it is basically what you are arguing against the Chelsea board for.

Stop using facts to spoil a load of moaning and whingeing, it confuses people. Some of the utter bollocks posted on here lately is embarrassing, basically the other clubs are great and do everything amazing while we are a shambles that never gets anything right. 

1. Roma is not the toughest club to negotiate with. 2. Dzeko isn't the best player in the world, 3. nor is  Mino Raiola's  client. 4. We desperately need a striker with confidence. 

If we that fails, we must declare ourselves officially a mediocre club. 

Or we arent prepared to give a 32 year old a 3 and a half year contract. We'd be stupid to do that 

You sound like an Arsenal fan. I would say it different way - 3 years of decent performances and probably some trophies in the sack. In 3 or even 2 years - thank you for your services, good bye. This is how the things are getting done. Stop this dreaming, no one is willing to give time players. Hazard came extremely talanted but he was also integrated in the team immediately. Same for Neymar, Dibala, Sane and so forth. 

All that matters is quality. In this particular moment, Dzeko is at higher level than Mitchy and Morata. 

Edited January 27, 20188 yr by Pendergast

Really hope we get this deal done, it’s a bit of a joke that we can’t seem to wrap up deals anymore.

29 minutes ago, Bobbywoodhogan said:

Really hope we get this deal done, it’s a bit of a joke that we can’t seem to wrap up deals anymore.

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