2 hours ago, Fatty_Speeding said:

My issue with Boehly's consortium is that whilst Boehly is obviously the front man, 66% of the club will actually be owned by Clearlake Capital, who we've heard absolutely zilch from.

So as much as Boehly is able to sweet talk everybody right now about how much he will prioritise winning, ultimately there will always be the faceless, money-thirsty private equity firm lurking in the background that he will have to answer to every second of every day.

In my opinion, it's very much worth waiting a little longer to bag ourselves an owner who has no need to prioritise ROI over winning.

The problem though is we have a 31/5/22 deadline to complete. Not sure what happens if we go over…administration?

31 minutes ago, charierre said:

The problem though is we have a 31/5/22 deadline to complete. Not sure what happens if we go over…administration?

Maybe. Maybe the Gov seize us and sell to the highest bidder.

1 hour ago, Fatty_Speeding said:

Well Clearlake are a huge American private equity firm, I'm sure their money is more than good in the eyes of Raine, whose entire business model relies on building relationships with firms like Clearlake.

I'm also not sure the frequency of events such as those that led to Roman being forced to sell Chelsea - thus the risk of these events repeating - should stop us from pursuing the mega-billionaire sole owner route again. The benefits still far outweigh any risks.

Clearlake is there for no other reason than to make money for investors,.

It's not going to throw money at an English football club for a bit of fun. 

Ratcliffe is the only bid to say it doesn't intend to make money out of their ownership

At the end of the day no matter what clearlake intend to do there is nothing us fans can really do,when the war started our club and Roman where shafted,and now we just have to take each day under the new owners as it comes.

 

2 hours ago, evissy said:

I agree Roman is better but MU and Liverpool are doing okay financially

Man u publicly listed, They don't have to win anything to maintain profits and transfer kitty's

2 hours ago, evissy said:

I agree Roman is better but MU and Liverpool are doing okay financially

The Glazers have taken almost £1 billion out of United since they became owners...

38 minutes ago, Bluesince66 said:

At the end of the day no matter what clearlake intend to do there is nothing us fans can really do,when the war started our club and Roman where shafted,and now we just have to take each day under the new owners as it comes.

No it's OUR club,  we shouldn't meekly accept something that isn't right for our club.

8 minutes ago, The Rising Sun said:

No it's OUR club,  we shouldn't meekly accept something that isn't right for our club.

We meekly accepted what the government did to us and to Roman. Like guilty children with our hands caught in the cookie jar.

Where was the pi$$ and vinegar of a response we had to the super league during this? Nowhere to be seen.

2 hours ago, charierre said:

The problem though is we have a 31/5/22 deadline to complete. Not sure what happens if we go over…administration?

True, although that's probably one reason Ratcliffe spoke with the government before tabling his bid.

You can imagine that his "British bid for a British club" - as Ratcliffe's own statement puts it - isn't a hard sell to this government. Similarly, if the government felt a minor extension to the deadline would lead to Chelsea having the right owner for the next 10+ years, they'd show flexibility.

17 minutes ago, Fatty_Speeding said:

True, although that's probably one reason Ratcliffe spoke with the government before tabling his bid.

You can imagine that his "British bid for a British club" - as Ratcliffe's own statement puts it - isn't a hard sell to this government. Similarly, if the government felt a minor extension to the deadline would lead to Chelsea having the right owner for the next 10+ years, they'd show flexibility.

You have far more trust in this group of  self serving charlatans, masquerading as a government to do the right thing by the club than I do. 

53 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

We meekly accepted what the government did to us and to Roman. Like guilty children with our hands caught in the cookie jar.

Where was the pi$$ and vinegar of a response we had to the super league during this? Nowhere to be seen.

This is what I’ve been saying all along. We had a poor, weak response. There was a few protests initially but the govt must be laughing at us that we've allowed them to effectively cripple us financially since the sanctions. 

From what we do know, Boehley has to be the safest bet. The reports from people who have met him all say the bid is sound and they “get it”. That goes a LONG way in my view. Look at the Glazers, they’ve spent £1b on their squad and horrendous. They don’t get it. We need people who are smart and clever to take us to the next level. 

14 minutes ago, JM7 said:

This is what I’ve been saying all along. We had a poor, weak response. There was a few protests initially but the govt must be laughing at us that we've allowed them to effectively cripple us financially since the sanctions. 

As I have said before certain others vlubs fanbases would never have taken it lying down.

12 minutes ago, JM7 said:

From what we do know, Boehley has to be the safest bet. The reports from people who have met him all say the bid is sound and they “get it”. That goes a LONG way in my view. Look at the Glazers, they’ve spent £1b on their squad and horrendous. They don’t get it. We need people who are smart and clever to take us to the next level. 

I like almost everything about BWG, especially their different levels of expertise and that they won people like Canners over.

What I don't like nor trust is Clearlake.

4 hours ago, evissy said:

I agree Roman is better but MU and Liverpool are doing okay financially

MU might be a commercial powerhouse but they are ridden with debt. And then you have the Glazers milking the cow. I wouldn't describe them as doing financially okay.

3 hours ago, axman2526 said:

We meekly accepted what the government did to us and to Roman. Like guilty children with our hands caught in the cookie jar.

Where was the pi$$ and vinegar of a response we had to the super league during this? Nowhere to be seen.

I’ve said it all along, I’m so disappointed at the response from the supporters to the government forbidding us from going to the home games that it really makes me wish we’d enter the Superleague. We’re not guilty of any invasion, why do we have to be punished? It would be so easy to set up the mechanism to get the money from the tickets directed to wherever party Boris is throwing… In fact, the away fans are paying their money to Chelsea and thus contributing to our invasion of the Ukraine….

7 hours ago, axman2526 said:

We meekly accepted what the government did to us and to Roman. Like guilty children with our hands caught in the cookie jar.

Where was the pi$$ and vinegar of a response we had to the super league during this? Nowhere to be seen.

I don't think there's much fans could have done. Protests would have labelled us as Putin apologists unfortunately even though we would be protesting for a completely different reason.

12 hours ago, JM7 said:

From what we do know, Boehley has to be the safest bet. The reports from people who have met him all say the bid is sound and they “get it”. That goes a LONG way in my view. Look at the Glazers, they’ve spent £1b on their squad and horrendous. They don’t get it. We need people who are smart and clever to take us to the next level. 

What they lack is knowledge of sport. They are backing the team more than any club in the world. They just have stupid people in the wrong places. 

Wyss not expected to be involved in the club directly. Simply in it to make money, though if he has to wait 10 years to sell his stake will be debatable if he is around to do so:

 

1 hour ago, axman2526 said:

Wyss not expected to be involved in the club directly. Simply in it to make money, though if he has to wait 10 years to sell his stake will be debatable if he is around to do so:

 

Yeah exactly, Makes no sense for an absolute OAP to want a 10yr investment that if not tendered to carefully like a prize garden will go down not up!

You gotta hope to the gods that their package is on another level than the others that have been turned down but the fan shares idea looks to be shelved and the preferred bidder is the first names out the hat from the start and is on the face of it just another investment group, Time will tell huh!

19 hours ago, axman2526 said:

We meekly accepted what the government did to us and to Roman. Like guilty children with our hands caught in the cookie jar.

Where was the pi$$ and vinegar of a response we had to the super league during this? Nowhere to be seen.

Can't disagree mate.

look at the response to a few fans chantng Romans name , but that should have galvanised us , I don't understand why do many of us bought into " blood on his hands" lies.

there is nothing to connect RA to the war other than some of the steel from his companies Might have been used in the manufacturing of tanks.

https://news.sky.com/story/preferred-chelsea-bidder-offers-premier-league-reassurance-over-investors-12603467

 

Sources close to the consortium, which is spearheaded by Todd Boehly, the LA Dodgers part-owner, said it had offered a total price that was slightly higher than the £4.25bn publicly pledged by Sir Jim Ratcliffe, the chemicals tycoon who tried to gatecrash the auction on Friday.

An insider suggested that Sir Jim and his Ineos group would need to table a substantially higher offer in order to persuade Mr Abramovich and his advisers to stand a chance of entering negotiations about a deal.

1 hour ago, Kantesmini said:

https://news.sky.com/story/preferred-chelsea-bidder-offers-premier-league-reassurance-over-investors-12603467

 

Sources close to the consortium, which is spearheaded by Todd Boehly, the LA Dodgers part-owner, said it had offered a total price that was slightly higher than the £4.25bn publicly pledged by Sir Jim Ratcliffe, the chemicals tycoon who tried to gatecrash the auction on Friday.

An insider suggested that Sir Jim and his Ineos group would need to table a substantially higher offer in order to persuade Mr Abramovich and his advisers to stand a chance of entering negotiations about a deal.

The whole sale process feels very unsavory and will no doubt just make a ton of money for Raine, and some of the Chelsea board members who no doubt have some hidden closes. Those same board members should have been gone a long time ago too, for their role in some of the awful transfer decisions (both purchases and sales) made in recent years.

21 minutes ago, forbzy said:

The whole sale process feels very unsavory and will no doubt just make a ton of money for Raine, and some of the Chelsea board members who no doubt have some hidden closes. Those same board members should have been gone a long time ago too, for their role in some of the awful transfer decisions (both purchases and sales) made in recent years.

Agree 100%

Listening to a podcast, they were saying Roman will likely keep the money the club will sell for. Obviously not all of it and won’t take any “profit” from the sale. The statement about “net proceeds” was suitable vague.