April 1, 20197 yr Across several topics on the forum the director of football keeps cropping up. Which type of person would you want (if you think we need one) and who would you like it to be. Ex player, business man, or what. Or just leave it as we are. Edited April 1, 20197 yr by Kev56
April 1, 20197 yr Doesn't have to be an ex-player but should be a football person as a pose to a business person in my opinion. An ex-manager would be fine too e.g. Hiddink. We have enough business people making decisions for the club. We need a top level football person.
April 1, 20197 yr 1 hour ago, forbzy said: Doesn't have to be an ex-player but should be a football person as a pose to a business person in my opinion. An ex-manager would be fine too e.g. Hiddink. We have enough business people making decisions for the club. We need a top level football person. This is my exact feelings towards DoF as well. If there were more footballing people within the upper echelon of the hierarchy of the club then I wouldn't feel like it HAS to be someone with a footballing background. But given the fact that their is a distinct lack of that, I believe it needs to be someone with that footballing background. Chelsea seem so directionless with their transfers and what they're doing
April 2, 20197 yr That bloke that was at Monaco with Jardim. Then if Sarri goes bring in either Jardim or Tuchel and focus heavily on youth integration for a year or two. Bored of the same tried and tested managers that will pick age and price tag over talent.
April 2, 20197 yr My feeling is that the club needs to integrate a long term plan, whether or not it is Sarri in charge next season. I have said elsewhere that the transfer ban (if upheld) could be a blessing in disguise as it will force the clubs hand to look closer to home at what we already have, and could lead to several players from the youth academy/ loan army being integrated. With a DOF i do think it has to be someone with a footballing experience, rather than just another businessman. Side note - with the transfer ban. It is my understanding that we are unable to register new players to play for us. Could that cause issues with players out on loan who weren't registered to play for us this season? I would think not but not entirely sure.
April 2, 20197 yr 9 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said: Bored of the same tried and tested managers that will pick age and price tag over talent. If we do change managers in the summer and the transfer ban is upheld it's the perfect opportunity to encourage this change. You bring in the new manager and they know they can't bring in new players so part of their brief for taking the job is that they have to (no compromise) use some of the youth players instead. I dunno if it's possible but you make it part of their contract that academy players have to play a certain number of minutes in the league. So then you have the likes of RLC, CHO, Ampadu, Christensen, Reece-James, Abraham being a part of the squad and getting regular minutes. What you do as well is you let the likes of Zappacosta, Cahill, Drinkwater, Kovacic and one of Willian/Pedro leave to allow space in the match day squads for those younger players to be involved.
April 2, 20197 yr 1 minute ago, ForeverCarefree said: You bring in the new manager and they know they can't bring in new players so part of their brief for taking the job is that they have to (no compromise) use some of the youth players instead. ?. Also add to this that the manager next season will have little expectation. Perfect time IMO to bring in a manager and build something over the next 2-3 years, which could potentially lay the foundations for the next 8-10 years for the club.
April 2, 20197 yr Author Bit of a tricky one, i think we really do need someone who actually 'knows' football. But this dof would have to be someone who is on the same wave length as the manager and be allowed to do his job without too much interference from the board/Granovskaia, which is probably not going to happen. Everyone, every Chelsea fan, every pundit and his dog can see the huge waste of money we've spent on mediocre players and the crying shame of our youth policy and the same old sh*t with our managers. Ah well as i told my kids growing up, Thats Chelsea lads.
April 2, 20197 yr Author 12 minutes ago, Munkworth said: There’s a bloke called Michael Emenalo looking for a job... Better than what we've got. Maybe.?
April 2, 20197 yr 1 minute ago, Kev56 said: this dof would have to be someone who is on the same wave length as the manager and be allowed to do his job without too much interference from the board/Granovskaia, which is probably not going to happen. This is the key bit. The manager should have a say in who the DOF is, or should be involved in the hiring/ interview process at the very least. There is no point shoe-horning in a DOF who might completely oppose what the manager is trying to do.
April 2, 20197 yr Author 1 hour ago, drjonesy1994 said: This is the key bit. The manager should have a say in who the DOF is, or should be involved in the hiring/ interview process at the very least. There is no point shoe-horning in a DOF who might completely oppose what the manager is trying to do. Exactly.
April 2, 20197 yr I think we should bring in Luis Campos, or Sven Mislintat, they are specialists at identifying young players with high potential. Then bring in a manager that likes to work with young players. The club needs to start singing from the same hymn sheet.
April 2, 20197 yr What does it matter if any manager never wants to give a chance to our academy players anyway...
April 2, 20197 yr 3 hours ago, big blue said: I think we should bring in Luis Campos, or Sven Mislintat, they are specialists at identifying young players with high potential. Then bring in a manager that likes to work with young players. The club needs to start singing from the same hymn sheet. It's a great idea. But we first need a plan and philosophy, then hire the DoF and manager to work together within that plan & philosophy to identify and acquire (through transfers and Academy) the players, It's what City did...…...The owners decided what kind of team they wanted, then they went about putting the pieces in place to get the right board, coach, and players. We don't have to spend the money they did, but we need to establish who we want to be and to commit to it. We have to stop the scattered way players and managers come and go.
April 2, 20197 yr I'd rather the DoF to be a footballing person rather than a business person. Business is what the board is meant to do, and for the last few seasons with an eye on net spend, we've had very sub-par transfer windows. The money spent could easily have been used elsewhere, so that's why a business decision isn't always the best for a footballing result. Someone who can handle the intricacies of both worlds. But really, it shouldn't be a hard sell to say "rather than spend x million on Drinkwater, Bakayoko, etc...we should look at someone else"
April 2, 20197 yr 6 minutes ago, mad_mac said: I'd rather the DoF to be a footballing person rather than a business person. Business is what the board is meant to do, and for the last few seasons with an eye on net spend, we've had very sub-par transfer windows. The money spent could easily have been used elsewhere, so that's why a business decision isn't always the best for a footballing result. Someone who can handle the intricacies of both worlds. But really, it shouldn't be a hard sell to say "rather than spend x million on Drinkwater, Bakayoko, etc...we should look at someone else" All well & good, but we essentially had that until Emenalo left. He was the football person. Marina was the business person. While it's speculation, it's not hard to believe that Marina had the ultimate and final say on who got bought and for how much. Since it's been 16 months since Emenalo resigned and we haven't replaced him, you can further speculate that the set up is the way Roman wants it.
April 2, 20197 yr 11 minutes ago, Boston Blue said: All well & good, but we essentially had that until Emenalo left. He was the football person. Marina was the business person. While it's speculation, it's not hard to believe that Marina had the ultimate and final say on who got bought and for how much. Since it's been 16 months since Emenalo resigned and we haven't replaced him, you can further speculate that the set up is the way Roman wants it. for sure, i'm completely with you here. Just putting my feelings out there in a forum
April 3, 20197 yr 12 hours ago, Boston Blue said: All well & good, but we essentially had that until Emenalo left. He was the football person. Marina was the business person. While it's speculation, it's not hard to believe that Marina had the ultimate and final say on who got bought and for how much. Since it's been 16 months since Emenalo resigned and we haven't replaced him, you can further speculate that the set up is the way Roman wants it. Which is why my issue is with Roman and why i hope he sells this summer.
April 3, 20197 yr 23 hours ago, Munkworth said: There’s a bloke called Michael Emenalo looking for a job... Is he the one who signed the kids who got us transfer banned?
April 3, 20197 yr Mislinstat would be a good shout. Is there a reason he's leaving Arsenal so soon though? Is he a bit of an arsehole behind the scenes? We have enough of those in the changing rooms.
April 3, 20197 yr 1 hour ago, RIP Mourinho said: Mislinstat would be a good shout. Is there a reason he's leaving Arsenal so soon though? Is he a bit of an arsehole behind the scenes? We have enough of those in the changing rooms. He was brought in by arsenal as head of scouting, they then created a position of sporting director, which he thought he should've got, but they were look at bringing in edu instead, so he jacked it in because he was going to lose a lot of the power. Seems a bit crazy on arsenal's part, he seems to have made some good signings in his short time there, guandouzi and Torreira look like great buys.
April 3, 20197 yr 2 hours ago, Stim said: Is he the one who signed the kids who got us transfer banned? He’s one who allegedly signed the kids following the FAs interpretation of the rules (including all the ones who weren’t good enough and are now world beaters). Thats my line and I’m sticking to it!
April 3, 20197 yr 3 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said: Mislinstat would be a good shout. Is there a reason he's leaving Arsenal so soon though? Is he a bit of an arsehole behind the scenes? We have enough of those in the changing rooms. Maybe Mislintat would be good. But I believe we need a DoF/ AND coach who we know each other, can work together, and are on the same page in terms of playing style, and which players fit what they are looking for. And that means the ability to evaluate and predict which youth players we should be focusing on, and what players we should be looking to buy to supplement. Further, Roman needs to give the DoF the power to run the football side, and after figuring out who they want, let Marina negotiate the best deal she can for the club. The three of them (DoF, coach, Marina) need to work as a team. The football people handle to football stuff. Marina handles the negotiating/business side. Edited April 3, 20197 yr by Boston Blue
April 3, 20197 yr If there isn't anyone viable at the time, why would anyone want to force a new person at that position anyway?
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