4 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

If there isn't anyone viable at the time, why would anyone want to force a new person at that position anyway?

For me, the bigger question is why is it taking more than 16 months to replace Emenalo……..

26 minutes ago, Boston Blue said:

 

Maybe Mislintat would be good.  But I believe we need a DoF/ AND coach who we know each other, can work together, and are on the same page in terms of playing style, and which players fit what they are looking for.  And that means the ability to evaluate and predict which youth players we should be focusing on, and what players we should be looking to buy to supplement.  

 

I know he’s never had a role like that before but there’s something about Ballack that I feel he’d be well suited to the role. He’s an intelligent man, he gets Chelsea and I feel has a genuine affinity towards the club from his time here. The most important part is he’s a football man, that’s what we’re crying out for in there.

 

Leave the trashing out of deals and business side of things to Marina, which she’s clearly very skilled at, being able to make judgements on footballers - not so

much.

 

An alternative would be Cech, who is I think in a similar scenario to Ballack above.

 

The positive to a signing like these and the same if Frank ever became our manager, I think they would get a lot more slack from both the club and the fans because of what they gave to us as players. That’s my take on it at least, but that’s probably going with my heart.

 

My head would say someone with a proven track record in a similar role like Campos or Mislinstat. Then again, everyone has to start somewhere!

10 minutes ago, EdinburghBlue said:

 

I know he’s never had a role like that before but there’s something about Ballack that I feel he’d be well suited to the role. He’s an intelligent man, he gets Chelsea and I feel has a genuine affinity towards the club from his time here. The most important part is he’s a football man, that’s what we’re crying out for in there.

 

Leave the trashing out of deals and business side of things to Marina, which she’s clearly very skilled at, being able to make judgements on footballers - not so

much.

 

An alternative would be Cech, who is I think in a similar scenario to Ballack above.

 

The positive to a signing like these and the same if Frank ever became our manager, I think they would get a lot more slack from both the club and the fans because of what they gave to us as players. That’s my take on it at least, but that’s probably going with my heart.

 

My head would say someone with a proven track record in a similar role like Campos or Mislinstat. Then again, everyone has to start somewhere!

Yes, our emotional selves look at the picture above and drool at the possibilities...….

And maybe Ballack would be great.  But I would prefer someone with a history of identifying talent, with established contact throughout the world of football with club chairmen, agents, and representatives, and who is a top salesman that can convince talented players that Chelsea is a better place for them than at any other club in Europe.

And our hearts yearn to see Lampard and Morris, JT, Cech, Drogba, or some combination of any/all of them  standing next to each other in the Chelsea dugout, discussing a tactic to close out a game we have a lead in.  But I don't know yet if they can manage bigger personalities, a large number of players who expect to play everyday, and through the rigors of 4 competitions.  Yes, they've all done it as Chelsea players.  Yes, some of them are managing in the Championship.  And yes, they all "get" Chelsea.  But we've already burned through both credible & established and up & coming managers.  Are we really the type of club that should take a flyer on a manager for emotional/nostalgic reasons?

1 hour ago, Boston Blue said:

Yes, our emotional selves look at the picture above and drool at the possibilities...….

And maybe Ballack would be great.  But I would prefer someone with a history of identifying talent, with established contact throughout the world of football with club chairmen, agents, and representatives, and who is a top salesman that can convince talented players that Chelsea is a better place for them than at any other club in Europe.

And our hearts yearn to see Lampard and Morris, JT, Cech, Drogba, or some combination of any/all of them  standing next to each other in the Chelsea dugout, discussing a tactic to close out a game we have a lead in.  But I don't know yet if they can manage bigger personalities, a large number of players who expect to play everyday, and through the rigors of 4 competitions.  Yes, they've all done it as Chelsea players.  Yes, some of them are managing in the Championship.  And yes, they all "get" Chelsea.  But we've already burned through both credible & established and up & coming managers.  Are we really the type of club that should take a flyer on a manager for emotional/nostalgic reasons?

Certainly think that is more important than getting a Chelsea old Boy.

1 hour ago, Boston Blue said:

Yes, our emotional selves look at the picture above and drool at the possibilities...….

And maybe Ballack would be great.  But I would prefer someone with a history of identifying talent, with established contact throughout the world of football with club chairmen, agents, and representatives, and who is a top salesman that can convince talented players that Chelsea is a better place for them than at any other club in Europe.

And our hearts yearn to see Lampard and Morris, JT, Cech, Drogba, or some combination of any/all of them  standing next to each other in the Chelsea dugout, discussing a tactic to close out a game we have a lead in.  But I don't know yet if they can manage bigger personalities, a large number of players who expect to play everyday, and through the rigors of 4 competitions.  Yes, they've all done it as Chelsea players.  Yes, some of them are managing in the Championship.  And yes, they all "get" Chelsea.  But we've already burned through both credible & established and up & coming managers.  Are we really the type of club that should take a flyer on a manager for emotional/nostalgic reasons?

That system; well the football of Director one seems to work well for Bayern. I understand your perspective but you do wonder with the astronomical asking prices for even youngsters, it might help having someone with an attachment to the club. He will have a network of global scouts to work with, and recruitment wise he will be more of a club’s salesman.

In any case we need some in at board level that knows talent, football systems and tactics etc and has played the game to oversee the football side of the club.

 

Chelsea is sinking

Really want Monchi from Sevilla. Apparently he’s an absolute star over there.

11 hours ago, Kentonio said:

Really want Monchi from Sevilla. Apparently he’s an absolute star over there.

When did Monchi leave Roma to go back to Sevilla?

We are now rumoured to be in for lewandowski. We can't get a DOF in quick enough.

I remember when we first appointed a DoF (Avram Grant wasn’t it?). Everyone was all up in arms about not needing one and how the club were just trying to take control away from the manager. 

How times have changed. 

33 minutes ago, Munkworth said:

I remember when we first appointed a DoF (Avram Grant wasn’t it?). Everyone was all up in arms about not needing one and how the club were just trying to take control away from the manager. 

How times have changed. 

Think some of it’s stemmed from the manager now being “head coach” leaving a lot of responsibilities behind and in our case they’re picked up by Marina who could be a brilliant buisness woman but doesn’t know football. 

Chelsea and Roma both after Luis Campos apparently. This is one i can get behind.

Sky Sports saying we're interested in employing RB Leipzig's Paul Mitchell to be our new DoF.  

The parallels between us and United are quite funny really. Both have business minded people in charge of all footballing decisions, both who are very good at increasing the club's respective commercial aspects but don't seem to have the knowledge or suitable long term vision for the actual football. Both have bought absolute garbage over the last few years + continue to offer contracts to crap players on insane money. Hope we rectify this this summer. I don't dislike Marina and I like the fact we have a woman in a high position at our club, but we need someone who knows football and can spot a player.

1 hour ago, rtwelch said:

The parallels between us and United are quite funny really. Both have business minded people in charge of all footballing decisions, both who are very good at increasing the club's respective commercial aspects but don't seem to have the knowledge or suitable long term vision for the actual football. Both have bought absolute garbage over the last few years + continue to offer contracts to crap players on insane money. Hope we rectify this this summer. I don't dislike Marina and I like the fact we have a woman in a high position at our club, but we need someone who knows football and can spot a player.

Both clubs are very similar except if you look at the important trophies won since the end of the Fergie era we've done much better. 

9 hours ago, Ray_Cfc said:

Both clubs are very similar except if you look at the important trophies won since the end of the Fergie era we've done much better. 

That means bugger all though. Neither team looks like they will win the big ones in the next 2-3 years. 

We are totally fine, had a few misses in the last few years but that happens to every club here and then. Now we have a great academy thanks to Roman and we're getting Pulisic that is going to be a star player.

58 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

That means bugger all though. Neither team looks like they will win the big ones in the next 2-3 years. 

That's to hard to call.

1 hour ago, Gol15 said:

We are totally fine, had a few misses in the last few years but that happens to every club here and then. 

Last couple of years the misses are massively outweighing the hits.

Bakayoko, Morata, Drinkwater, Zappacosta.

£150m worth of signings and not one is a first team regular. 

£40m spent on Alonso and Emerson and both are struggling to hold down a place in the team.

We have over £90m worth of strikers on loan and don’t have a decent striker in the team.

£130m spent on Jorginho and Kepa and neither have had great seasons this year. 

There doesn’t seem to be any sort of coherent strategy to our signings, it’s very reactionary. For the amount of money we’re investing in players our squad isn’t in a good place.

The thing is we buy certain players for certain managers but we sacked them 6 months later and we hire someone with the absolute opposite pilosophy, Morata and Bakayoko are doing quite fine at Atletico and Milian and im pretty sure Drinkwater would be doing just fine if he was at a Everton or West Ham.

When you hire a direct of football it usually comes with an identity and you have you stick with  that indentity if thru hard times wich is a risk the board is not willing to take i think.

Im actually really curious to see whats gonna happen with the ban because it could be major blow to our future if it stays on.

8 hours ago, ForeverCarefree said:

Last couple of years the misses are massively outweighing the hits.

Bakayoko, Morata, Drinkwater, Zappacosta.

£150m worth of signings and not one is a first team regular. 

£40m spent on Alonso and Emerson and both are struggling to hold down a place in the team.

We have over £90m worth of strikers on loan and don’t have a decent striker in the team.

£130m spent on Jorginho and Kepa and neither have had great seasons this year. 

There doesn’t seem to be any sort of coherent strategy to our signings, it’s very reactionary. For the amount of money we’re investing in players our squad isn’t in a good place.

That really is depressing reading. ?

8 hours ago, ForeverCarefree said:

Last couple of years the misses are massively outweighing the hits.

Bakayoko, Morata, Drinkwater, Zappacosta.

£150m worth of signings and not one is a first team regular. 

£40m spent on Alonso and Emerson and both are struggling to hold down a place in the team.

We have over £90m worth of strikers on loan and don’t have a decent striker in the team.

£130m spent on Jorginho and Kepa and neither have had great seasons this year. 

There doesn’t seem to be any sort of coherent strategy to our signings, it’s very reactionary. For the amount of money we’re investing in players our squad isn’t in a good place.

I think (Wembley moment aside) Kepa has had a good season. He’s had a few goals where he could have done better but he’s young and only human. 

Imagine if we had Tibo still and played the ball around at the back like we do! 

39 minutes ago, Munkworth said:

I think (Wembley moment aside) Kepa has had a good season. He’s had a few goals where he could have done better but he’s young and only human. 

Imagine if we had Tibo still and played the ball around at the back like we do! 

He’s done okay as a young goalkeeper but when you’re dropping £72m on a player you need them to hit the ground running. 

He’s not living up to the price tag so far. Not necessarily his fault, he doesn’t decide his price but if he’s nothing more than a decent goalie then you question the wisdom of dropping a world record fee on him rather than strengthening areas of the team crying out for quality.

I don’t disagree with investing in a goalkeeper but it just ties in with the squad not having a clear vision.

We’ll but left backs like it’s going out of fashion but invest in new wingers? No thanks! 

There’s no coherent strategy to what the club are doing when buying players, everything feels very reactionary.

22 hours ago, rtwelch said:

The parallels between us and United are quite funny really. Both have business minded people in charge of all footballing decisions, both who are very good at increasing the club's respective commercial aspects but don't seem to have the knowledge or suitable long term vision for the actual football. Both have bought absolute garbage over the last few years + continue to offer contracts to crap players on insane money. Hope we rectify this this summer. I don't dislike Marina and I like the fact we have a woman in a high position at our club, but we need someone who knows football and can spot a player.

Crazy right.. you think we are an absolute mess then you watch Utd. Makes you wonder who will get out of the funk first.

 

7 minutes ago, ForeverCarefree said:

He’s done okay as a young goalkeeper but when you’re dropping £72m on a player you need them to hit the ground running. 

He’s not living up to the price tag so far. Not necessarily his fault, he doesn’t decide his price but if he’s nothing more than a decent goalie then you question the wisdom of dropping a world record fee on him rather than strengthening areas of the team crying out for quality.

I don’t disagree with investing in a goalkeeper but it just ties in with the squad not having a clear vision.

We’ll but left backs like it’s going out of fashion but invest in new wingers? No thanks! 

There’s no coherent strategy to what the club are doing when buying players, everything feels very reactionary.

He's on a 7 year contract. If anything we bought him expecting him not to hit the ground running. 

We don't have a big pot and spend. Thats not how football transfers work. Kepas signing fee is spread over 7 years on our books and coupled with a miracle amount we got for courtois actually works out fine.