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New Fifa Loan Rules - Who we keeping?

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https://www.football.london/chelsea-fc/news/new-fifa-loan-rules-chelsea-16981984

The new rules are set to come through, next season we will be allowed to have 8 players age 22 or over on loan. Not sure what the situation is with our youth players under that age, but for the time being 22 and over we can only have 8 players next season, and the season after that thats getting cut down to 6.

So who are you guys keeping and think is worth loaning out the following season?

20/21 - Blackman, Kenedy, Musonda, Pasalic, Clarke-Salter, Izzy Brown, Bakayoko (unless we can flog him to another team), Piazon (only because hes signed a 2 year loan deal, so takes up an automatic loan spot)

 

What are your thoughts? 

33 minutes ago, PlayDaYouf said:

https://www.football.london/chelsea-fc/news/new-fifa-loan-rules-chelsea-16981984

The new rules are set to come through, next season we will be allowed to have 8 players age 22 or over on loan. Not sure what the situation is with our youth players under that age, but for the time being 22 and over we can only have 8 players next season, and the season after that thats getting cut down to 6.

So who are you guys keeping and think is worth loaning out the following season?

20/21 - Blackman, Kenedy, Musonda, Pasalic, Clarke-Salter, Izzy Brown, Bakayoko (unless we can flog him to another team), Piazon (only because hes signed a 2 year loan deal, so takes up an automatic loan spot)

 

What are your thoughts? 

None of your list will ever play for chelsea in the pre.ker league. So I'm not fussed. Keep anyone who is 22 or 23 and we think will improve so we can sell for more. Everyone else sell. 

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36 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

None of your list will ever play for chelsea in the pre.ker league. So I'm not fussed. Keep anyone who is 22 or 23 and we think will improve so we can sell for more. Everyone else sell. 

I was thinking the same as I was typing the names out, but we are a club thats notorious for loans so I think we will try and do the maximum number we can. I think out of the few I mentioned maybe Musonda has a chance if he can get back to good form and possibly Kenedy as well if he improves. But aside from that, I do think its unlikely for everyone else on the list. 

Also I just want to see what players other members on here think are worth loaning out

1 hour ago, Sexyfootball said:

The 16 players who are currently out on loan, and will be >22 at start of next season :

Drinkwater, Moses, Zappacosta, Blackman, Piazon, Rahman, Bakayoko, Pasalic, Baker, Miazga, Kenedy, Nathan, Musonda, Pantic, Brown, Clarke-Salter.

I really don't see anyone on that list that shouldn't just be sold !

You can only sell if there are prospective buyers, if not keep on loan or allow to go free, IMO

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2 hours ago, Strider6003 said:

You can only sell if there are prospective buyers, if not keep on loan or allow to go free, IMO

Everything sells at the right price ... we've probably been asking too much for some of these players, which is why we still have them.

4 hours ago, the special one said:

Only players worth keeping are Pasalic and Castillo. Sell the rest (and Barkley).

Pasalic is 24. he'll be 25 by the time he returns. If he isn't good enough for us now, then he never will be. We have a ton of players in front of him.

4 hours ago, Sexyfootball said:

The 16 players who are currently out on loan, and will be >22 at start of next season :

Drinkwater, Moses, Zappacosta, Blackman, Piazon, Rahman, Bakayoko, Pasalic, Baker, Miazga, Kenedy, Nathan, Musonda, Pantic, Brown, Clarke-Salter.

I really don't see anyone on that list that shouldn't just be sold !

 

Yep, sell them all. None of them have a place in the squad anymore.

One thing is for certain, we will see what players the club view in high regards. Because if they are forced to keep everyone at the club except 8 over 22 years old, then we might see them off load a crap ton of "dead wood" 

How does it work for under 22? Is there a limit? Sorry, didn't read the article and I'm at work so I'm skimming comments here and didn't see it mentioned.

It's one thing to say "sell, sell, sell", it's another to find a club willing to maintain Drinkwater's insane salary.

In reality this cap will mean a few extra expensive outcasts loitering around the fringe of the squad until their contracts run out.

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12 hours ago, Scott Harris said:

Pasalic is 24. he'll be 25 by the time he returns. If he isn't good enough for us now, then he never will be. We have a ton of players in front of him.

Yep, sell them all. None of them have a place in the squad anymore.

Pasalic may not quite be good enough for us now, and I agree with you - but neither is Barkley in my opinion. We look fluid when Mount plays as an attacking midfielder and I'm sorry to say but I think Barkley looks out of place when he plays at right centre midfield - I hope I'm wrong but I just don't see a place for Barkley.

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Pretty much agree with everyone here, none of the players we have aged over 22 atm is good enough to play for us. They will probably all need to get sold, but knowing us and how we love to use the loan system, I can still see us loaning out the maximum number of 8 players. 

We certainly did do very well this summer though in getting rid of a whole host of deadwood players. Now if only we can carry that on in January, but the winter window is always quiet as its the middle of the season, so not sure who's getting sold then, aside from Hector

I would keep Zappacosta, we don't know when Azpi is going to break down and we'll need another RB, Moses is also a class WB but we don't know how often we're going to be playing 3 at the back.

If Drinkwater can save his career and put in a decent season then he could potentially get a move with the virtue of being a HG player but I doubt it and we're probably going to have to keep him, Bakayoko can have a decent season and I think Monaco would take him back for £20m.

9 hours ago, the special one said:

Pasalic may not quite be good enough for us now, and I agree with you - but neither is Barkley in my opinion. We look fluid when Mount plays as an attacking midfielder and I'm sorry to say but I think Barkley looks out of place when he plays at right centre midfield - I hope I'm wrong but I just don't see a place for Barkley.

I don't think Pasalic is better than Barkley though, so it would be a waste of time bringing him back to take Barkley's spot. We also have Jorgino, Kante, Kovacic, Mount, Loftus-Cheek and Gilmour. I don't see any room for somebody like Pasalic. He won't want to return to us and play a few cup games a season, so we may as well just sell him.

 

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15 hours ago, Scott Harris said:

I don't think Pasalic is better than Barkley though, so it would be a waste of time bringing him back to take Barkley's spot. We also have Jorgino, Kante, Kovacic, Mount, Loftus-Cheek and Gilmour. I don't see any room for somebody like Pasalic. He won't want to return to us and play a few cup games a season, so we may as well just sell him.

 

Agree, nothing tells me Pasalic will start ahead of who we have already. Thought he was going to get sold this season after a decent performance in Italy last year, but just got sent out on loan again.

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On 30/09/2019 at 15:46, Sexyfootball said:

The 16 players who are currently out on loan, and will be >22 at start of next season :

Drinkwater, Moses, Zappacosta, Blackman, Piazon, Rahman, Bakayoko, Pasalic, Baker, Miazga, Kenedy, Nathan, Musonda, Pantic, Brown, Clarke-Salter.

I really don't see anyone on that list that shouldn't just be sold !

 

3 gone, another 13 to go!

I can see another 4-5 going from that list in this current window as well

1 minute ago, driller97 said:

3 gone, another 13 to go!

I can see another 4-5 going from that list in this current window as well

Still seems bizarre that we sold Pasalic - we could have used him in midfield last night. The way he's playing for Atalanta this season I'd take him over Barkley any day of the week.

14 minutes ago, the special one said:

Still seems bizarre that we sold Pasalic - we could have used him in midfield last night. The way he's playing for Atalanta this season I'd take him over Barkley any day of the week.

Not too bizarre when he's been loaned out 5 or 6 years in a row with no hope of ever getting to our first team. His time was up here and I doubt Lampard will start him over Kovacic, Mount or Jorginho so he'll just be wasting away on the bench here.

17 minutes ago, driller97 said:

Not too bizarre when he's been loaned out 5 or 6 years in a row with no hope of ever getting to our first team. His time was up here and I doubt Lampard will start him over Kovacic, Mount or Jorginho so he'll just be wasting away on the bench here.

Hence why I said Barkley. ?

3 minutes ago, the special one said:

Hence why I said Barkley. ?

Bring him back just to waste him on the bench? We need to Sell Barkley anyway, and with Havertz coming in and RLC's resurgence there's simply no space for either of them

I’d keep Kenedy, I’ve always had a soft spot for him and he’s a good utility player to have, although I wouldn’t shed any tears if he left. I’d keep Musonda maybe one more year and hope he can make a breakthrough on loan. Other than those two I’d offload the lot.

 

Shame about Baker I really used to believe he’d make it here.

16 minutes ago, driller97 said:

Bring him back just to waste him on the bench? We need to Sell Barkley anyway, and with Havertz coming in and RLC's resurgence there's simply no space for either of them

Don't think RLC has played a full match yet.

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