2 minutes ago, cfcforeverfan said:

Good, bye and don't let the door hit you on the way out

 

Imagine we have Donnarumma, once again shows you that not going for the best option on the market will only haunt you in the future

Donnarumma was a non-starter once PSG got interested. Could be a negotiating tactic by his agent since he still hasn’t signed a new contract, and is after £150k/w+. The only top club I could see going after him in the summer would be Spurs since we wouldn’t be after a ridiculous fee, other big clubs require a GK good with his feet.

Sánchez wouldn’t be my pick though, you just know Brighton will demand £50m for him. Still feel Diogo Costa at Porto is the best GK available on the market. 

Mendy is good enough to be our number 1. All we need to do is stop this boring football passing it amongst our backline constantly putting our keeper under pressure.

1 hour ago, KonaKai Blue said:

Mendy is good enough to be our number 1. All we need to do is stop this boring football passing it amongst our backline constantly putting our keeper under pressure.

Yes! bring back route one brexit-ball. 4-4-f**king 2 as Mike Bassett would say. Hoof it up to the big man and hope for the best. 

6 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Yes! bring back route one brexit-ball. 4-4-f**king 2 as Mike Bassett would say. Hoof it up to the big man and hope for the best. 

That long ball was the reason we won the Champions League 2 years ago.

6 minutes ago, KonaKai Blue said:

That long ball was the reason we won the Champions League 2 years ago.

Its also the only time in his career Mendy has accurately found a man. 

I'd argue Mount playing the ball on the floor won us that CL though, not the hit and hope out wide for the 50/50 to Chilly.

8 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Its also the only time in his career Mendy has accurately found a man. 

I'd argue Mount playing the ball on the floor won us that CL though, not the hit and hope out wide for the 50/50 to Chilly.

We had tried the exact same move three times previously. A journalist called Ken Early did a brilliant piece on it at the time. That was straight off the traing ground back in the day when we had a coach.

Just now, Liam said:

We had tried the exact same move three times previously. A journalist called Ken Early did a brilliant piece on it at the time. That was straight off the traing ground back in the day when we had a coach.

Can be worked on as many times as you want, a long ball is still a 50/50 though. Play out from the back and it all favours the team in possession so fate is in your own hands. Glad it worked in the CL final though, Tuchel had an eye for those things.

3 hours ago, Mod said:

Just read Mendy is unhappy and wants to move on. 

Makes sense. He has not received the contract he wants so far and lost the number 1 spot to Kepa.

I doubt he is the only one looking to leave. Hopefully we can have a good clear out and, most importantly, get the right people in.

For me, he's never really been a completely dedicated type. Unlike Kepa, who has been managing the team on-field more than GP! He just seems more a team player and Mendy has always struck me as someone thats only there to do their job (minus the clearances)

I'm sure he was making noises about not staying long after he signed which obviously says a lot.

Kepa sat on the bench longer than some of our managers and didn't whinge at all. In fact, remember when he was giving instructions to Kai who was coming on. Mendy loses his place for a few games and starts moaning!

Either way, if Mendy is off, we need another keeper for definite!

Thing is though with Mendy at his best, he was genuinely among the best keepers on the planet. 

Kepa at his best is just a very good keeper. That's it. 

I'd agree that Mendy used to be at one point, but think he lost his way sometime last season!

Could argue also that we lost 3 of the 4 recent ones with Mendy in goal, but I really wouldn't put that down to him, that'd be way harsh and don't think Kepa would've be able to stop them either.

1 hour ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Can be worked on as many times as you want, a long ball is still a 50/50 though. Play out from the back and it all favours the team in possession so fate is in your own hands. Glad it worked in the CL final though, Tuchel had an eye for those things.

Well we need to practice on winning the second balls. At least if we lose possession, the opposite have more to do to get the ball back into our area.

Playing out the back is fine but the way we do it is not. We play it to Mendy because the midfield and attack have no idea how to get out. That just increases the chances of a mistake happening because it is by far the most riskiest passing play in football. One mistake and you've had it. In the end Mendy is forced to lump it up anyway in panic because our defenders have all been closed down.

1 hour ago, Mod said:

For me, he's never really been a completely dedicated type. Unlike Kepa, who has been managing the team on-field more than GP! He just seems more a team player and Mendy has always struck me as someone thats only there to do their job (minus the clearances)

I'm sure he was making noises about not staying long after he signed which obviously says a lot.

Kepa sat on the bench longer than some of our managers and didn't whinge at all. In fact, remember when he was giving instructions to Kai who was coming on. Mendy loses his place for a few games and starts moaning!

Either way, if Mendy is off, we need another keeper for definite!

I cant give Kepa credit for not complaining being on the bench. He's on a massive contract and had no leg to stand on regarding his poor form, costing us week and week out. He was happy to sit on the bench and work hard to get his chance as opposed to joining a smaller club for half the wage.

4 minutes ago, KonaKai Blue said:

Well we need to practice on winning the second balls. At least if we lose possession, the opposite have more to do to get the ball back into our area.

Playing out the back is fine but the way we do it is not. We play it to Mendy because the midfield and attack have no idea how to get out. That just increases the chances of a mistake happening because it is by far the most riskiest passing play in football. One mistake and you've had it. In the end Mendy is forced to lump it up anyway in panic because our defenders have all been closed down.

until we get a better CM than J5 we'll struggle. You pass him the ball from CB and you know its coming straight back to you. 

7 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

until we get a better CM than J5 we'll struggle. You pass him the ball from CB and you know its coming straight back to you. 

Yes obviously everything bad is only due to Jorginho playing for 4 seasons, what a surprise coming from you.

2 hours ago, Gol15 said:

Yes obviously everything bad is only due to Jorginho playing for 4 seasons, what a surprise coming from you.

Don't be so mean to yourself Gol...

7 hours ago, axman2526 said:

Don't be so mean to yourself Gol...

Just pointing out the agenda being still real lol

10 hours ago, Gol15 said:

Yes obviously everything bad is only due to Jorginho playing for 4 seasons, what a surprise coming from you.

Morning Gol, hope you have a great day. Remember to take a few minutes to breath and clear your mind of any thought of me x

35 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Morning Gol, hope you have a great day. Remember to take a few minutes to breath and clear your mind of any thought of me x

More like I come read the forum and once again debunk your stupid agenda, feels nice.

21 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

More like I come read the forum and once again debunk your stupid agenda, feels nice.

Can you debunk my agenda over on the Gallagher thread please, its been an hour now and i'm desperate to see your reply after the hole you dug yourself. 

Stop replying to these meaningless comments you've started and actually talk about something to do with football. 

On 15/11/2022 at 13:26, RIP Mourinho said:

Yes! bring back route one brexit-ball. 4-4-f**king 2 as Mike Bassett would say. Hoof it up to the big man and hope for the best. 

THere are otheroptions that boot it long to a cr@p forward line or technically inept players passign it around at the back and calling it possession football.

2 minutes ago, WhiteWall said:

THere are otheroptions that boot it long to a cr@p forward line or technically inept players passign it around at the back and calling it possession football.

For a goalkeeper? his options are pass short or knock it long, not really any other options.

As for a team, i'd rather us play out from the back with some tempo but we lack a player in the middle to do that.

On 15/11/2022 at 13:53, RIP Mourinho said:

Can be worked on as many times as you want, a long ball is still a 50/50 though. Play out from the back and it all favours the team in possession so fate is in your own hands. Glad it worked in the CL final though, Tuchel had an eye for those things.

Surely a long ball to someone being a 50/50 can only pre-suppose that that person is already being marked. Not all passing the ball over distance is a hoof it and hope.

In fact all i am seeing at teh moment are woefully poor players not retaining possession well enough, shifting the ball to the nearest bloke becuase the team don't seem to have a run in them until ultimately all we seem to do is hoof the ball upfield and hope someone gets it and holds it up.  Broja must have thought what is this bollox throughout the Newcastle game

2 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

For a goalkeeper? his options are pass short or knock it long, not really any other options.

As for a team, i'd rather us play out from the back with some tempo but we lack a player in the middle to do that.

I think there are actually four options when a keeper has the ball at his feet. Of course it narrows down when under pressure.

Short pass to either a defensive player or a dropping midfielder who is creating space behind

Long pass as you say out of the danger zone in the hope that the forward retains possesion.

A clip to the midfield or wings with receiving players having sufficent ability to be able to control the ball actively moving us forwards rather than negatively getting it under control and invariably going back the way we came.

The fourth option is for yardage, where a clip to the wings is done flat enough to encourage a defender to commit but have sufficient quality for that defender to commit and put the ball into touch.

The issue that we have is that our keepers, along with most others, struggle to make the correct choice when under pressure, mainly in our case, because insufficient optiosn are being made available by our outfield players.

In fairness, whilst he may well bu88er it up when under pressure himself, Jorginho is a player that is always tryign to offer an option.

On 15/11/2022 at 10:54, Mod said:

Just read Mendy is unhappy and wants to move on. 

Could we not give him a game or two at RWB so he feels included?